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U.S. lifts 26-year old ban on New Zealand warship visits to U.S. bases......INTERESTING TIMING!

 
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The United States has lifted a 26-year old ban on visits by New Zealand warships to U.S. defense and coast guard bases around the world, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said on Friday.

For the first time since the suspension of the ANZUS Treaty in 1986, Washington will allow individual visits by Royal New Zealand Navy ships to Department of Defense or Coast Guard facilities in the United States and around the world, Panetta said in prepared remarks to be delivered in Auckland.

"These changes make it easier for our militaries to engage in discussions on security issues and to hold cooperative engagements that increase our capacity to tackle common challenges," he said.

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Hmmm, interesting.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Hmmm, interesting.
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Anyone else think the timing of this is a little too much of a coincidence?

Just in time for WW3...........
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very interesting
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very interesting
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I thought so too. Why would they lift this ban now, after 26 years, unless.............. it ties in with everything that's been happening over the last couple weeks?
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I suppose this agreement might come in handy when Japan/China conflict escalates.

I'm thinking this could definately tie into what the OP of this thread posted:

U.S. is playing chess with the world right now. Look at China and Japan. The U.S. is behind the whole incident. Japan helps the U.S. to buy time to deal with the immediate threat of the Russian/Iranian front. Without China being distracted the strategy fails. Israel is the sacrifice to an invasion of Iran, shifting to China from both side, then up to Russia.

Thread: READ AND TAKE IT IN. YOU BETTER BELIEVE!!!!!
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New Zealand GLPers, your response?
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i'm glad we're not at war with new zealand anymore
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i'm glad we're not at war with new zealand anymore
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We've never been at war with NZ. They are a key ally to the US.
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New Zealand says they will remain nuclear-free.

While both Washington and Wellington acknowledged the improvement in relations and defense ties, New Zealand Defense Minister Jonathan Coleman said New Zealand had an independent foreign policy and that its anti-nuclear ban was not negotiable.

"I don't think that we should get too hung up about trying to turn the clock back to pre-1986 because the reality is that the relationship is very, very good," Coleman said at a news conference following their meeting.

New Zealand has a small contingent of troops fighting with U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

During his visit Panetta is also meeting with other senior leaders to explore deeper U.S. military engagement with New Zealand as the United States rebalances its forces to the Asia-Pacific as part of a new military strategy.

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the only reason US did this was from spite that nz went nuc free.
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the only reason US did this was from spite that nz went nuc free.
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Yes, this is true.

Which makes this decision for the lift on ban even more suspect.
Especially considering NZ says their nuclear free policy is not negotiable.
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New Zealand GLPers, your response?
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No wonder I smell sulphure since Paneta's arrival.
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i'm glad we're not at war with new zealand anymore
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We've never been at war with NZ. They are a key ally to the US.
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what? since when? you're speaking crazy stuff
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New Zealand just got drafted.
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i'm glad we're not at war with new zealand anymore
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We've never been at war with NZ. They are a key ally to the US.
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what? since when? you're speaking crazy stuff
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No craziness here.

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New Zealand just got drafted.
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Wonder who's next?
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yup. New Zealand needs to sail in and pick up its allotment of nukes.
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yup. New Zealand needs to sail in and pick up its allotment of nukes.
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bump
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New Zealand just got drafted.
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Wonder who's next?
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the Fiji Islands Royal Navy?
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yup. New Zealand needs to sail in and pick up its allotment of nukes.
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bump
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NZ has already said they will remain nuclear-free. Unless the cave of course.
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the Tonga amphibious corps?
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yup. New Zealand needs to sail in and pick up its allotment of nukes.
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bump
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NZ has already said they will remain nuclear-free. Unless the cave of course.
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well, the 26 year u.s. ban on New Zealand was because
New Zealand would let u.s. nuke ships berth in New Zealand,
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New Zealand? Warships? What, are they made out of bamboo?
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New Zealand? Warships? What, are they made out of bamboo?
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kiwi feathers?
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i'm glad we're not at war with new zealand anymore
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The Kiwis kicked your buttbanana2
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We consider the u.s our ally, but hey new zealand gave the world nuclear energy in the form of one ernest rutherford so we have the right to say no to nukes here, its a karma thing you will never understand.

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