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air supeariorety
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A few carriers isn't air superiorety. land based airfields are better. specially if you are a big country like Iran. They can build underground bunker airfields.

and such.

Good for defense tho.
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except for those 100 kt bunker-busters.
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All they gotta do is launch 100 missiles at each carrier. If ten get through, we can't land or take off. And we got a problem.....
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All they gotta do is launch 100 missiles at each carrier. If ten get through, we can't land or take off. And we got a problem.....
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yes, the age of the mighty aircraft carrier battle group
has gone the way of the battleship, i expect.

(but, they're still good for brush-fire wars against
3rd world morons, though)
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Good luck whit all the AA missile stations. you need booths on the ground. Before you have any big advanage in Iran airspace.

I keep saying that Iran isn't a backdoor nation like Afhanistan/Iraq.

And do remember that Iran has closeby Allies, offcourse Iran and it's allies arent technological as far as US but do know that Supply routes for Iran are way shorter then those of US and it's allies.

Logistics are in Iran advantage. And supply lines will be attacked often in war time. on both sides. Dont forget the anti ship missile called "Sunburn"

But all this equipment doesnt mean shit,for both sides. If you are not determined to fight until the end. And I do remember that the strongest mind will survive.

They are fanatics they will confront you straight ahead, But there biggest weapons is those hidden cells around the country.

When soldiers on the frontline hear news about,lost of lifes in there home town. because of some terrorist is a big moral crusher.

I dont wish WW3 but. it wont be easy. Do know that I dont choose sides.
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so, the message the u.s. is sending china is: if you sink our
aircraft carrier, yer gonna get a hundred nukes.
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The Economist

This week’s cover preview: Could China and Japan really go to war over these? Sadly, yes.

[link to twitter.com]
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Here's Two Paragraphs That Could Force The US To Get Involved In The Latest China-Japan Spat

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]

[link to afe.easia.columbia.edu]

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The Economist

This week’s cover preview: Could China and Japan really go to war over these? Sadly, yes.

[link to twitter.com]
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350 billion barrels of oil is a lot of oil.
china and japan should share it to help fuel
the World-Wide WAR against Islam.
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The Economist

This week’s cover preview: Could China and Japan really go to war over these? Sadly, yes.

[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


350 billion barrels of oil is a lot of oil.
china and japan should share it to help fuel
the World-Wide WAR against Islam.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


bump
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The Economist

This week’s cover preview: Could China and Japan really go to war over these? Sadly, yes.

[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


350 billion barrels of oil is a lot of oil.
china and japan should share it to help fuel
the World-Wide WAR against Islam.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


bump
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bump
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Key question is where are all of the subs.
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And don't forgett the 1000 Chinese fishing boats near Senkakus....

beared
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1,000 crazy chinese suicide fisherman boats?
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so, the message the u.s. is sending china is: if you sink our
aircraft carrier, yer gonna get a hundred nukes.
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Then china will unload on the US. That would be suicide for everyone.

God damn leaders are taking us to war and I dont want to be taken to war! Does anyone else?
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And don't forgett the 1000 Chinese fishing boats near Senkakus....

beared
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1,000 crazy chinese suicide fisherman boats?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24107495


chinese fishing boats against all the japanese fishing boats.

DAMN i hope somebody is getting all this on film!
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WHERE THE HELL IS JAMES CAMERON WHEN YOU NEED HIM!
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Inside China: Generals urge get-tough policy on Japan.


“We must get ready militarily,” said Maj. Gen. Luo Yuan. “When necessary, we should designate the Diaoyudao area as a military exercise zone, or missile test zone.

“The next step should be taken when our strategic strength has accumulated enough to take the islands once and for all.”

“Japan is using the Diaoyudao issue as an excuse to serially provoke China,” insisted another army strategist, Maj. Gen. Peng Guangqian.

"We should unite all the righteous anti-fascism forces worldwide to deal Japan a blunt blow for its challenge to international justice,” said Gen. Peng, evoking rhetoric similar to that used more than half a century ago.

Air Force Maj. Gen. Qiao Liang said the Diaoyudao spat between China and Japan is a U.S. plot to keep China buried in regional conflicts with neighbors so it will lose its current strategic opportunity for development.

Vice Adm. Zhao Yingfu, formerly the commissar to the South Sea Fleet, urged a multipronged struggle against Japan.

He laid out a three-stage maritime strategy on the Senkakus: China first sends fishing vessels to the Senkakus, followed by China’s maritime surveillance and maritime safety vessels, and then naval vessels should get into the area quickly.

“We are not afraid of firing shots,” the admiral said.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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Inside China: Generals urge get-tough policy on Japan.

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what's the line on all of this in Vegas?
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I do believe that many of us are taking a "wait and see" approach. China and Japan are heading into election season and their current dustup may well be election posturing. China has not forgotten the Rape of Nanking and other atrocities that Japan has never apologized for...so I watch with great interest

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Good luck whit all the AA missile stations. you need booths on the ground. Before you have any big advanage in Iran airspace.

I keep saying that Iran isn't a backdoor nation like Afhanistan/Iraq.

And do remember that Iran has closeby Allies, offcourse Iran and it's allies arent technological as far as US but do know that Supply routes for Iran are way shorter then those of US and it's allies.

Logistics are in Iran advantage. And supply lines will be attacked often in war time. on both sides. Dont forget the anti ship missile called "Sunburn"

But all this equipment doesnt mean shit,for both sides. If you are not determined to fight until the end. And I do remember that the strongest mind will survive.

They are fanatics they will confront you straight ahead, But there biggest weapons is those hidden cells around the country.

When soldiers on the frontline hear news about,lost of lifes in there home town. because of some terrorist is a big moral crusher.

I dont wish WW3 but. it wont be easy. Do know that I dont choose sides.
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Great thread again Door Bert keep it up...

5* pin
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Great thread again Door Bert keep it up...

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cheers
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And don't forgett the 1000 Chinese fishing boats near Senkakus....

beared
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1,000 crazy chinese suicide fisherman boats?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24107495


chinese fishing boats against all the japanese fishing boats.

DAMN i hope somebody is getting all this on film!
 Quoting: there ain't no God
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Much thanks for pin!
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Good luck whit all the AA missile stations. you need booths on the ground. Before you have any big advanage in Iran airspace.

I keep saying that Iran isn't a backdoor nation like Afhanistan/Iraq.

And do remember that Iran has closeby Allies, offcourse Iran and it's allies arent technological as far as US but do know that Supply routes for Iran are way shorter then those of US and it's allies.

Logistics are in Iran advantage. And supply lines will be attacked often in war time. on both sides. Dont forget the anti ship missile called "Sunburn"

But all this equipment doesnt mean shit,for both sides. If you are not determined to fight until the end. And I do remember that the strongest mind will survive.

They are fanatics they will confront you straight ahead, But there biggest weapons is those hidden cells around the country.

When soldiers on the frontline hear news about,lost of lifes in there home town. because of some terrorist is a big moral crusher.

I dont wish WW3 but. it wont be easy. Do know that I dont choose sides.
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exactly, they have been preparing this since 1979 and they have experience in very longterm and gruesome warfare. (iran-iraq war)
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Well looks like the mainland will be left with National Guards and DHS....interesting..hmmmmmm!
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Take an easy everyone. China knows that Obama is weak and has no clue. They are just making moves to see what the reaction will be and possibly - just possibly - they can get away with something while Obama is not paying attention or doesn't care.....you know, like showing up on TV shows and hanging loose with Hollywood. Ladies and Gentlemen and Kids, we have a pathetic President.
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[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Pentagon alarm over China

Step-by-step in the past several years Washington had begun to create the perception that China, which was the “dear friend and ally of America” less than a decade ago, was becoming the greatest threat to world peace because of China’s enormous economic expansion. The painting of China as a new “enemy” has been complex as Washington is dependent on China to buy the lion’s share of the US Government debt in the form of Treasury paper.

In August the Pentagon released its annual report to Congress on China’s military status. 2 This year the report sent alarm bells ringing across China for a strident new tone. The report stated among other things, “Over the past decade, China’s military has benefited from robust investment in modern hardware and technology. Many modern systems have reached maturity and others will become operational in the next few years,” the Pentagon said in the report. It added that “there remains uncertainty about how China will use its growing capabilities… China’s rise as a major international actor is likely to stand out as a defining feature of the strategic landscape of the early 21st century.”3

In a matter of perhaps two to five years, depending on how the rest of the world reacts or plays their cards, the Peoples’ Republic of China will emerge in the controlled Western media painted as the new “Hitler Germany.” If that seems hard to believe today, just reflect on how that was done with former Washington allies such as Egypt’s Mubarak or even Saddam Hussein. In June this year, former US Secretary of the Navy and now US Senator from Virginia, James Webb, startled many in Beijing when he told press that China was fast approaching what he called a “Munich moment,” when Washington must decide how to maintain a strategic balance, a reference to the 1938 crisis over Czechoslovakia when Chamberlain opted for appeasement with Hitler over Czechoslovakia. Webb added, “If you look at the last 10 years, the strategic winner has been China.” 4

The same massively effective propaganda machine of the Pentagon, led by CNN, BBC, the New York Times or London Guardian will get the subtle command from Washington to “paint China and its leaders black.” China is becoming far too strong and far too independent for many in Washington and in Wall Street. To control that, above all China’s oil import dependency has been identified as her Achilles Heel. Libya is a move to strike directly at that vulnerable Achilles heel.

Illumicorp - ordo ab chao
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Take an easy everyone. China knows that Obama is weak and has no clue. They are just making moves to see what the reaction will be and possibly - just possibly - they can get away with something while Obama is not paying attention or doesn't care.....you know, like showing up on TV shows and hanging loose with Hollywood. Ladies and Gentlemen and Kids, we have a pathetic President.
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.....and also, maybe they like messing around with the Japanese and getting them riled-up.
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China's military is developing electromagnetic pulse weapons that Beijing plans to use against U.S. aircraft carriers in any future conflict over Taiwan, according to an intelligence report made public on Thursday.
Portions of a National Ground Intelligence Centerstudy on the lethal effects of electromagnetic pulse (EMP) and high-powered microwave (HPM) weapons revealed that the arms are part of China’s so-called “assassin’s mace” arsenal - weapons that allow a technologically inferior China to defeat U.S. military forces.
EMP weapons mimic the gamma-ray pulse caused by a nuclear blast that knocks out all electronics, including computers and automobiles, over wide areas. The phenomenon was discovered in 1962 after an aboveground nuclear test in the Pacific disabled electronics in Hawaii.
The declassified intelligence report, obtained by the private National Security Archive, provides details on China’s EMP weapons and plans for their use. Annual Pentagon reports on China's military in the past made only passing references to the arms.
“For use against Taiwan, China could detonate at a much lower altitude (30 to 40 kilometers) … to confine the EMP effects to Taiwan and its immediate vicinity and minimize damage to electronics on the mainland,” the report said.


Read more: Report: China building electromagnetic pulse weapons for use against U.S. carriers - Washington Times [link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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China has super EMP weapons, there will never be a world war with them. There is no point.

They could turn the entire US into Zimbabwe instantly, destroy every electronic circuit in the entire country.
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Well looks like the mainland will be left with National Guards and DHS....interesting..hmmmmmm!
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yes, but DHS is a whole army of secret police forces.

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