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New Jersey Bans Smiling in Driver's License Photos

 
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This whole has nothing to do with smiling. The requirements - No smiling, looking straight ahead, etc is for Facial Recognition Technology, providing a reference photo for face dimensions. Couple that with facebook type "Tag your Friends" photos, and pretty soon you have enough photos at hand to build a 3d representation of most of the faces logged. Using these its fairly easy to see you can start to regognize faces from different angles, and in real time, if you had enough computing power - and they do. How's that for big brother.
 Quoting: Smile please 6988499


So when do the terrorists show up to have their pictures taken, or is it only regular civilians who need to be recognised? I am sure the bad guys can't get forged id or anything right? Boy I feel safer already.
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it's psychological, to dehumanize you, it's so the police will have less sympathy for you when they are looking at your picture on file, they will see the civilian riff raff as unsmiling and unfriendly people. It makes it easier to kill you, put fluoride in your water, feed you GM food.
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who cares about what goes on in Canada?

America needs to say no to these intrusive facial recognition schemes
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09/21/2012 07:24 PM
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cant smile in Canadian drivers licence or passports
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ya and we got them fancy new aeroplanes now too...

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Few enough people smiling in Jersey.
 Quoting: Alx 24188476


If you have to live in that shithole
you got NOTHING to smile about,
so this is an easy police state regulation
to comply with.
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When I got my DL pic taken I tried to look as drunk as possible so when a cop pulls me over I look just like the pic and all is normal.
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LOL!
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i think it's been that way in Indiana for awhile now. you can smile, kinda, but like not with your teeth showing. i could be wrong, it's been awhile, but i seem to recall from last time i changed my address or whatever.
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Going to the department of motor vehicles can put a frown on anyone's face, but for New Jersey residents, smiling is officially against the rules.

The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission has cracked down on drivers smiling in their driver's license photos because their smiles could interfere with new facial recognition software.

New Jersey resident Velvet McNeil told the Philadelphia Inquirer Thursday that when she went to get her license at her local New Jersey motor vehicle center, she was told she could not smile for her photo. Shocked, McNeil said she walked out of the center.

"Your picture means a lot," she told the newspaper. "It's who you are."


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 Quoting: Stu


That has been the policy in Canada for many years already.. no smile on Drivers' Licenses and Passports... I asked why, and was told, they can more accurately identify people and verify ID if there is a need to do so when the face is neutral…smiles and frowns change the skin around the eyes and nose and makes it more difficult to make a positive ID.

That is the story I was given.
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Going to the department of motor vehicles can put a frown on anyone's face, but for New Jersey residents, smiling is officially against the rules.

The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission has cracked down on drivers smiling in their driver's license photos because their smiles could interfere with new facial recognition software.

New Jersey resident Velvet McNeil told the Philadelphia Inquirer Thursday that when she went to get her license at her local New Jersey motor vehicle center, she was told she could not smile for her photo. Shocked, McNeil said she walked out of the center.

"Your picture means a lot," she told the newspaper. "It's who you are."


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 Quoting: Stu


That has been the policy in Canada for many years already.. no smile on Drivers' Licenses and Passports... I asked why, and was told, they can more accurately identify people and verify ID if there is a need to do so when the face is neutral…smiles and frowns change the skin around the eyes and nose and makes it more difficult to make a positive ID.

That is the story I was given.
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Guess thats why they call it ID
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Same in Portugal. You have to look a potential terrorist...
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This shouldn't be a problem to Portuguese people, in a nation of long time slave traders, genocides and thieves!
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Going to the department of motor vehicles can put a frown on anyone's face, but for New Jersey residents, smiling is officially against the rules.

The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission has cracked down on drivers smiling in their driver's license photos because their smiles could interfere with new facial recognition software.

New Jersey resident Velvet McNeil told the Philadelphia Inquirer Thursday that when she went to get her license at her local New Jersey motor vehicle center, she was told she could not smile for her photo. Shocked, McNeil said she walked out of the center.

"Your picture means a lot," she told the newspaper. "It's who you are."


[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Stu


many people wont be able to afford running a car shortly ..
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facial recognition software
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This has been going on for a while.They are looking for ? Come on, I am for a low level NSA tool. Some one has to have the answer
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This whole has nothing to do with smiling. The requirements - No smiling, looking straight ahead, etc is for Facial Recognition Technology, providing a reference photo for face dimensions. Couple that with facebook type "Tag your Friends" photos, and pretty soon you have enough photos at hand to build a 3d representation of most of the faces logged. Using these its fairly easy to see you can start to regognize faces from different angles, and in real time, if you had enough computing power - and they do. How's that for big brother.
 Quoting: Smile please 6988499


so if you walk down the street smiling it will miss you?
That's what they are saying but I think its BS
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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This whole has nothing to do with smiling. The requirements - No smiling, looking straight ahead, etc is for Facial Recognition Technology, providing a reference photo for face dimensions. Couple that with facebook type "Tag your Friends" photos, and pretty soon you have enough photos at hand to build a 3d representation of most of the faces logged. Using these its fairly easy to see you can start to regognize faces from different angles, and in real time, if you had enough computing power - and they do. How's that for big brother.
 Quoting: Smile please 6988499


so if you walk down the street smiling it will miss you?
That's what they are saying but I think its BS
 Quoting: Kirk


No, if they se you walking down the street smiling they will know that you are too stupid to be dangerous, or just plain insane. Might be a good thing to remember for later.
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09/21/2012 09:33 PM
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This is not new for Virginian's They dont want you to smile because it is used for facial recognition software. The picture is printed on your ID as a dot matrix and is transparent. If you smile it will not record your facial points correctly.

Scary shit.
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09/21/2012 10:19 PM
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I know a guy with a twisted sense of humor who feigned a developmental disability to get around this for his passport photo and somehow it worked. He has an enormous, goofy smile on his passport.
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09/21/2012 10:21 PM

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whatever!!!
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I wouldn't smile if I lived in NJ either, lol.
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After living in the armpit of America for the first 26 years of my life, I'm not surprised. This is the same state that passed a law saying you have to buckle up your pets...
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cant smile in Canadian drivers licence or passports
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This is mine:


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Re: New Jersey Bans Smiling in Driver's License Photos
Going to the department of motor vehicles can put a frown on anyone's face, but for New Jersey residents, smiling is officially against the rules.

The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission has cracked down on drivers smiling in their driver's license photos because their smiles could interfere with new facial recognition software.

New Jersey resident Velvet McNeil told the Philadelphia Inquirer Thursday that when she went to get her license at her local New Jersey motor vehicle center, she was told she could not smile for her photo. Shocked, McNeil said she walked out of the center.

"Your picture means a lot," she told the newspaper. "It's who you are."


[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Stu


It doesn't "mean a lot" to me. I don't believe my DL pic is "who I am", lol. I never smile for them, because I can't stand the way they take your picture.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


No kidding. DL picture means nothing to me. It's the only picture I'm forced to take, and I don't appreciate someone forcing me to have my picture made just to be allowed to drive my own car.
 Quoting: ReVbo™


your both potential domestic terrorists. One of you will pull the gun smiling while the other one runs past the drive thru at starbucks.5a
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Chris Christie, you fat fucker, are you for this? DO SOMETHING A-HOLE!
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can't smile for a brit passport either
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Just had mine done in NJ and smiled like a high 12th grader. No actually I just made a regular face.
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I thought they were all doing that now. Alabama wouldn't let me smile for my driver's license 3 years ago, and I was told not to smile for my passport photo last week. It's because they want to be able to run you through facial recognition software whenever they want.

And that ain't no conspiracy theory. It's what the lady at the DMV AND the guy at Walgreens told me.
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This and only this reason only is why you don;t smile in photos...
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I will smile if I want to, I don't want to be recognized.
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But it says you can keep on head wear if it's for religious reasons. I'm wondering do you have to show a religious ID for that? And what if you wear one that covers your whole face?

And what about beards, beards can cover a lot of your face.
 Quoting: Dinkytuff


I friend of mine shaved his head.. cause he was going bald anyway.. Went to renew his licence.. and they wouldn't renew it..Eventually it got worked out.. but imagine his surprise..

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