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Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

 
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What's next, tobacco companies selling cancer treatments???
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Big tobacco is heavily invested in companies like Pfizer, Bayer and Unilever.

Makes you wonder doesn´t it?
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

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You are 100% a Monsanto bot.

No normal person gives a rats ass about those jerk offs enough to try and bother defending their planet killing actions at this point.
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Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

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On the other hand
[link to www.stwr.org]

"The increases in crop yields that Monsanto has shown in Mexico, Romania, the Philippines, Hawaii and India are actually not yield increases at all. In scientific terms these are called crop losses, which have been very cleverly masqueraded as yield increases. By indulging in a jugglery of scientific terminologies that take advantage of the layman’s ignorance, Monsanto has made claims based on evidence that does not exist.

As written in Monsanto's article: “The most common traits in GM crops are herbicide tolerance (HT) and insect resistance (IR). HT plants contain genetic material from common soil bacteria. IR crops contain genetic material from a bacterium that attacks certain insects.”

This is true. Herbicide tolerant plants and insect resistant plants do perform broadly the same function as chemical pesticides. Both the GM plants and the chemical pesticides reduce crop losses. In fact, GM plants work more or less like a bio-pesticide - the insect feeds on the plant carrying the toxin, and dies. Spraying the chemical pesticide also does the same.

In the case of herbicide tolerant plants, the outcome is much worse. Biotech companies have successfully dove-tailed the trait for herbicide tolerance in the plant. As a result, those who buy the GM seeds have no other option but to also buy the companies own brand of herbicide. Killing two birds with one stone, you might say."

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The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

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it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.
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Ask anyone who smokes fine cannabis the difference between the commercial shit that is full of pesticides and synthetic nutrients and the organic sensimillia - there's a reason why the commercial stuff is less than half the price.

Food is a lot like that.

I think what you are missing and what the original poster is alluding to is the fact that NOTHING BUT THE MONSANTO crop CAN survive because they invented a chemical that kills everything but their genetically modified version.

This means that no one would have any alternative BUT to eat Monsanto crops since they have effectively made it so that theirs are the only ones that exist.

Monsanto just spent 17 million bucks in California to fight a recent proposition to require retailers to label GM ingredients in products... I wouldn't doubt if they allocated some more of the money that they spend on projects like that at the corporate level on hiring anonymous posters to do damage control on their reputation in popular forums...

Know what I'm saying?
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...
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stfu
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
Roundup no longer works


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"Just as the heavy use of antibiotics contributed to the rise of drug-resistant supergerms, American farmers’ near-ubiquitous use of the weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth of tenacious new superweeds.

To fight them, Mr. Anderson and farmers throughout the East, Midwest and South are being forced to spray fields with more toxic herbicides, pull weeds by hand and return to more labor-intensive methods like regular plowing.

“We’re back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Mr. Anderson, who will plow about one-third of his 3,000 acres of soybean fields this spring, more than he has in years. “We’re trying to find out what works.”

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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
Good post.
People don't understand. The crop is poison resistant but your body and tummy aren't! Your eating poison and ya'll think that is okay. There is reason why you can't spray round up on normal plants.
Would you take a bottle of Round up and spray it on your food before you cooked and ate it? No because its poison but that is what GM are. Go ahead and enjoy your cancer and diabetes because your going to have it.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

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Please don't post the truth on here because people just cant handle it.
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Roundup may cause sterility and miscarriage

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"This previously unknown organism is only visible under an electron microscope (36,000X), with an approximate size range equal to a medium size virus. It is able to reproduce and appears to be a micro-fungal-like organism. If so, it would be the first such micro-fungus ever identified. There is strong evidence that this infectious agent promotes diseases of both plants and mammals, which is very rare.

Pathogen Location and Concentration

It is found in high concentrations in Roundup Ready soybean meal and corn, distillers meal, fermentation feed products, pig stomach contents, and pig and cattle placentas.

Linked with Outbreaks of Plant Disease

The organism is prolific in plants infected with two pervasive diseases that are driving down yields and farmer income—sudden death syndrome (SDS) in soy, and Goss’ wilt in corn. The pathogen is also found in the fungal causative agent of SDS (Fusarium solani fsp glycines).

Implicated in Animal Reproductive Failure

Laboratory tests have confirmed the presence of this organism in a wide variety of livestock that have experienced spontaneous abortions and infertility. Preliminary results from ongoing research have also been able to reproduce abortions in a clinical setting.

The pathogen may explain the escalating frequency of infertility and spontaneous abortions over the past few years in US cattle, dairy, swine, and horse operations. These include recent reports of infertility rates in dairy heifers of over 20%, and spontaneous abortions in cattle as high as 45%.

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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520


I must be an idiot. Why make a weed killer that kills weeds and the crops too, that's not very scientific, isn't the weed killer supposed to kill the weeds only. Kind of like using a sledgehammer to tap in a nail, IMO. And if those crops that will not be hurt by roundup go on to harm people by causing cancers that kill them, or birth defects, then I guess its just the price we will have to pay. Those nice people at Monsanto certainly wouldn't set out to harm anyone, would they? And with all their scientific research and being world experts in the subject, there is just no way they could possibly know the dangers of GMOs. Any research that says their crops cause death must be wrong. Now, where's my dunce cap.
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You're not an idiot, most of us here can see what's going on.
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thats not the half of it,

Just say No to processed foods and factory farms.
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Roundup no longer works


[link to www.nytimes.com]

"Just as the heavy use of antibiotics contributed to the rise of drug-resistant supergerms, American farmers’ near-ubiquitous use of the weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth of tenacious new superweeds.

To fight them, Mr. Anderson and farmers throughout the East, Midwest and South are being forced to spray fields with more toxic herbicides, pull weeds by hand and return to more labor-intensive methods like regular plowing.

“We’re back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Mr. Anderson, who will plow about one-third of his 3,000 acres of soybean fields this spring, more than he has in years. “We’re trying to find out what works.”

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


The only comment that mentions this and everyone just kind of talks past it.

Monsabto has, by extension. created superweeds!
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It's a brilliant racket, isn't it?!
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The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
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Well said every part of the world every industry every government you name it, its corrupted cause we do fuck all about it

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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520


it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.
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clappa
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The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
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Well said every part of the world every industry every government you name it, its corrupted cause we do fuck all about it

clappa
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No. They're corrupt because they are corrupt. You prove to us that no farmers fought against this agenda of control and manipulation.
The fact that people never had a gun allowed another to kill them in your eyes, did it?
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Roundup no longer works


[link to www.nytimes.com]

"Just as the heavy use of antibiotics contributed to the rise of drug-resistant supergerms, American farmers’ near-ubiquitous use of the weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth of tenacious new superweeds.

To fight them, Mr. Anderson and farmers throughout the East, Midwest and South are being forced to spray fields with more toxic herbicides, pull weeds by hand and return to more labor-intensive methods like regular plowing.

“We’re back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Mr. Anderson, who will plow about one-third of his 3,000 acres of soybean fields this spring, more than he has in years. “We’re trying to find out what works.”

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


The only comment that mentions this and everyone just kind of talks past it.

Monsabto has, by extension. created superweeds!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22958406


The whole thing is just so fucked up... you don`t even know where to begin...

Poison in the food, mutating weeds, dying bees, forbidden seed saving .... sounds like a B horror movie - but it`s real.
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Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad? I think that sums it up.
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bsflag...Not even close
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
Roundup no longer works


[link to www.nytimes.com]

"Just as the heavy use of antibiotics contributed to the rise of drug-resistant supergerms, American farmers’ near-ubiquitous use of the weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth of tenacious new superweeds.

To fight them, Mr. Anderson and farmers throughout the East, Midwest and South are being forced to spray fields with more toxic herbicides, pull weeds by hand and return to more labor-intensive methods like regular plowing.

“We’re back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Mr. Anderson, who will plow about one-third of his 3,000 acres of soybean fields this spring, more than he has in years. “We’re trying to find out what works.”

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


The only comment that mentions this and everyone just kind of talks past it.

Monsabto has, by extension. created superweeds!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22958406


and superbugs as well.
when trying to change nature, they forgot, nature evolves and adapts.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You Idiots! Let me sum this up for you:

1. Weeds in crops = poor yield, and difficult harvesting.

2. Billions of people to feed + declining area to grow food on because of development = need for larger harvests in smaller area.

3. Round-up ready crops can be sprayed with round-up to kill the weeds and not the crops.

SIMPLE!

Until you actually work on a farm and SEE how many weeds grow in the fields because you fucking hippy environmentalists won't spray your own fucking weeds and the seeds float onto MY fields you can SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You Idiots! Let me sum this up for you:

1. Weeds in crops = poor yield, and difficult harvesting.

2. Billions of people to feed + declining area to grow food on because of development = need for larger harvests in smaller area.

3. Round-up ready crops can be sprayed with round-up to kill the weeds and not the crops.

SIMPLE!

Until you actually work on a farm and SEE how many weeds grow in the fields because you fucking hippy environmentalists won't spray your own fucking weeds and the seeds float onto MY fields you can SHUT THE FUCK UP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14362939


how about your neighbours fields, those who happily grow organic seeds, and your gm seeds float onto their fields and mutate their crops?
Oh right your buddy monsanto has solutions for that, sue them for copyright infringement, so they have to shut down the farm that has been in their business for generations.
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how about your neighbours fields, those who happily grow organic seeds, and your gm seeds float onto their fields and mutate their crops?
Oh right your buddy monsanto has solutions for that, sue them for copyright infringement, so they have to shut down the farm that has been in their business for generations.
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Exactly!!
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You Idiots! Let me sum this up for you:

1. Weeds in crops = poor yield, and difficult harvesting.

2. Billions of people to feed + declining area to grow food on because of development = need for larger harvests in smaller area.

3. Round-up ready crops can be sprayed with round-up to kill the weeds and not the crops.

SIMPLE!

Until you actually work on a farm and SEE how many weeds grow in the fields because you fucking hippy environmentalists won't spray your own fucking weeds and the seeds float onto MY fields you can SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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You serious, Brah? You got the arsenal, you use the arsenal!
Think of your neighbors, for a change.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You Idiots! Let me sum this up for you:

1. Weeds in crops = poor yield, and difficult harvesting.

2. Billions of people to feed + declining area to grow food on because of development = need for larger harvests in smaller area.

3. Round-up ready crops can be sprayed with round-up to kill the weeds and not the crops.

SIMPLE!

Until you actually work on a farm and SEE how many weeds grow in the fields because you fucking hippy environmentalists won't spray your own fucking weeds and the seeds float onto MY fields you can SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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someone has lots of vested interest. shares, bro?
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Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad? I think that sums it up.
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Sounds like a great excuse to make another awesome batch of poison to me.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

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Every time that you open your mouth, your ass sucks wind.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...
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Every time that you open your mouth, your ass sucks wind.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
What about the farm bill not passing? That is going to put a few more small farmers out of business, especially the new ones, the young ones.

The price of food when it is only grown by big farms will skyrocket.
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Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.
You Idiots! Let me sum this up for you:

1. Weeds in crops = poor yield, and difficult harvesting.

2. Billions of people to feed + declining area to grow food on because of development = need for larger harvests in smaller area.

3. Round-up ready crops can be sprayed with round-up to kill the weeds and not the crops.

SIMPLE!

Until you actually work on a farm and SEE how many weeds grow in the fields because you fucking hippy environmentalists won't spray your own fucking weeds and the seeds float onto MY fields you can SHUT THE FUCK UP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14362939


Yes thats the GM sales pitch but sadly it does not line up with reality.

GM crops sometimes have higher yields

But GM crops have led to an even higher use of herbicide (Fact)

Round up ready crops contain glyphosate and other chemicals in ever growing numbers because they have to keep using more and more. To top that off its damaging the soil and it strips the plant after spraying of several nutrients and minerals from the plant.
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