Is there a reason that I can't find god.

Sometimes not being answered is a gift because it brings you to the deeper prayers. Keep going. Remember God understands it all, all the stuff no one else gets. He's madly in love with you, and always has been. Don't give up give it what you can, He understands it all.

If god is the bible version you're better off never finding him.
Live life and enjoy it for what it is. If he exists and condemns you to hell for not spending every waking hour kissing his ass because he was 'created' you, then he is a petty, mercurial and altogether evil bastard.
You can search all you like. All you'll find are liars telling you how happy they are because god/jesus/fsm/allah/thor/odin/set/yahweh etc. loves them.
Live mate...you'll be very dead oneday and nothing more will bother you.

I'll give credit where it is due. That is the best example of a soiled soul I've seen in a bit. Must suck to wake up everyday, eh?

Life isn't that bitter. It is simple. When you add attachments to simple it starts to suck. Get rid of the attachments. No, really.

Yeah I'm not searching for the Bible god, as far as I know the bible was written by man, and we all know how deceitful man can be.

dear fellow glper,i know what your going through,ive been through it myself.all my life i felt dissatisfied,like something was missing.i put it down to not having a dad and i was seriously messed up for many years,drinking taking drugs being on anti deppressants,never feeling whole.i got into islam when i was a teenager and read the english koran,which on the face of it seemed quite similar to the bible,so i believed it but carried on with my wild ways and still feeliing empty.it was like i felt unloved,i was always looking for that love in the wrong place,sleeping with men,who would hurt me.then at the lowest part of my life after doing some really crappy things and virtually becoming a drug dependant alcoholic,i knew i had to find the truth of my reason for existance,so i began searching the internet for spiritual answers.i looked at all sorts,i found out that islam was full of bull lol,i looked at catholics and tried praying to mary,i read the urantia book,theres so much out there,i just wanted ro be close to god more than anything.so one night i prayed to just god and asked him to show me the truth,who should i pray to,why am i here .i just wanted his love and to be shown the right way.anyways i started reading the bible and the apocrapha like the lost books of eden,the book of jasher,enoch ect and it just click

ed! It was jesus that i was looking for,his was the love i was missing,my father who loves me despite all my crappy habits and lifestyle choices.i began to pray to god in jesus name and that was it,i was hooked.read about how he went to the cross and suffered so much for us,this was the love,the missing link id been searching for my whole life.the emptyness was filled,i stopped drinking completly and stopped taking my anti depressants and started living.wow,i cant tell you how much the lord has revealed to me since then,i feel like i really know him.thats what you need to do,read about him and get to know his heart.hes your father and you need a reletionship with him to feel complete.your right at the beggining of your relationship with him,search for him and you will find him.learn about the rapture,thats bound to make you happy.good luck in your journey,may jesus christ help you with every step you make.godbless and love you always.....soz for rambling.lol

The happiness I experience is at least real. No, it's not a constant garden of roses and joy but I can tell you, I appreciate life a lot more than the average christian.
Reality can be very rewarding and exciting. I don't need to believe I'll be in 'heaven' one day to love and live this life...
There is joy without 'god' and all the punishments :-)

More than likely you don't have a complete understanding at all.

Take a giant step back.

Stop being so know-it-all-ish.

You don't know nowhere near as much as you think you do.

God in the context of religiousness doesn't exist.

I posted this because I don't know not because I know. Dunno where the hell you got that idea.

If god is the bible version you're better off never finding him.
Live life and enjoy it for what it is. If he exists and condemns you to hell for not spending every waking hour kissing his ass because he was 'created' you, then he is a petty, mercurial and altogether evil bastard.
You can search all you like. All you'll find are liars telling you how happy they are because god/jesus/fsm/allah/thor/odin/set/yahweh etc. loves them.
Live mate...you'll be very dead oneday and nothing more will bother you.
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Yeah I'm not searching for the Bible god, as far as I know the bible was written by man, and we all know how deceitful man can be.


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Well OP, all that I can say is that His words are in there. He has lessons for us in there. Scripture is useful for instruction as you read and meditate upon passages, He teaches by connecting, giving understanding and leading. The more you seek to understand the more you are given. Take Satan's words above, or choose life. Satan is obvious - he is the ruler of the age in hearts and minds of those who are perishing. He tells you to enjoy this life. Do want you want. He appeals to your lusts of the flesh, just as that poster did. He could care less about living after this life. He tells you that God's burden is too heavy, despite Jesus' clear words that his yoke is light. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promises eternal life and seeks those who desire it - on His terms. The universe has so many ages to come, and yet there is a spirit of disobedience within man that works to exalt himself above all that is called God. He wants to build his own tower into the Heavens with his own hands and his own mind. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will show this to you, and will show you the rebellion within His creation. You will then begin to understand why mankind has been barred from the tree of life whilst in this state. You must become a child again, not knowing good and evii. You must be born again. Satan, when describing Heaven, convinces the masses that everyone will go no matter their behaviour. He's convinced humans that a God who expects obedience to good and life is an ogre. Truly, a Heaven like the here and now would be no Heaven at all. Mark His words - there will be no sin in His Kingdom. All who choose wickedness will be on the outside.

"As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him." 1 John 2:27

I'm curious, do you realise the implications of your words "Yeah I'm not searching for the Bible god"? You already discount the power of God and you already discount the Holy Spirit. Jesus spoke in parables for a reason.

"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come." Matthew 22

Man chooses either man as his god or the Creator. Build your own tower or seek His. It should be clear - the poster to you has chosen the former due to rebellion in his carnal life.. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob offers the latter.

the kingdom of heaven is in your midst and soon shall be in you

if you can figure this one out you will find God!

OP have you noticed from your experiences how mankind has had a tendency to personify 'God'? What I mean by that is the projection of human-like qualities/attributes onto the conceptualization of this higher force. I think it's a fallacy. A higher force/power by it's very nature would TRANSCEND the human-like qualities/experiences that are distinctively tied to this lower dimensional existence.

Notice how frequently "He" and "Him" is used as a pronoun for 'God'? Why would 'God' have a gender? Why would the force responsible for all creation need to be associated with a specific gender? When words like "He" and "Him" are used, people will usually instinctively associate that perceived male/masculine energy with human-like attributes that we have come to experience in our male-oriented/dominant society - attributes such as control, authority, judgement, e punishment/discipline. Should it be any surprise that our society has created an image of 'God' that is representative or a projection of the type of world in which we have created? With this understanding, is it any surprise how willingly individuals will subscribe to a vindictive, authoritarian, spiteful, dualistic 'God' who punishes souls by casting them to an eternity of hell? In the process they are identifying with the very qualities/attributes that have are a reflection of the dysfunctional and disharmonious world that we have created and come to experience.

Can you imagine if the religious texts has been written in the context of using "She" and "Her" instead? With those gentle, loving, life producing, nurturing, and protective qualities that we have come to associate with the female/feminine energy. Is it as easy to conceptualize a loving, nurturing higher force that exacts vengeance on mankind and casts souls to burn in hell? Again, I'm not suggesting gender should even be used in this discussion, just explaining how the use of one particular gender has drastically shaped and influenced the way in which human beings have conceived and personified 'God'.

What if we have lived many lives, and had many experiences? What if we are hear to learn and gain wisdom through experiences - and in the process, advance our level of consciousness and move up the dimensional ladder. What if we are granted complete free-will in this process, as to not have any outside interference in the pursuit of this endeavor? Why can't a higher power or higher consciousness exist that does not meddle in our daily affairs or control/influence events & outcomes during this 3 dimensional 'experience' on our Earth? How can we truly learn from our actions if we are subject to an outside force controlling & manipulating outcomes against our free-will?

Me personally, I don't subscribe to any religious depiction of a higher power. It didn't sit right with me as a child and it still doesn't sit right with me as an adult. My intuition always steered me away from limiting my conscious awareness with these types of corrupted and restrictive belief systems that wish to portray a 'God' in the image of a masculine human-like 'entity' in the skies.

I've found my peace through exploring spirituality and the eternal nature of conscious existence. Don't let anyone ever try and make you feel like you need to accept their depiction of 'God' or that you're somehow lacking moral integrity if you don't subscribe to and identify with any particular religious dogma. Morality is rooted in EMPATHY, the ability to understand/feel/relate to another's conscious experience. The strength of an individuals religious conviction means nothing to me. I place my value in the strength of an individual's heart and their capacity to demonstrate compassion and empathy through their ACTIONS and not merely their beliefs.

ITS LIKE I didnt want to believe...

I asked God..SHOW ME..SHOW ME YOUR REAL..

well it took a while..I believe now..

HELL..Its real..

if each person went through the way god showed me..they would have hated God..

good luck in your quest..

Go for it.

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26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 27And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. 28For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. 31Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. 33So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

OP honestly when I pray, I don't receive a response (or recognize it) 99% of the time, but it's the 1% that's life changing. Jesus said those who endure until the end will be saved, so never stop trying. What kind of lifestyle do you live? If there's some serious sins you still take part in, they may be seperating you from his grace. The fact that you made this thread says a lot about you though and if you are sincere that counts for a lot.

The reason is that you never needed to find God in the first place. You've enjoyed playing at pretending you needed to find God. Along the way, you've enjoyed the searching. You've had your ups and downs.

There is nothing that is not God. Life = God. Existence = God.
Death = God. Nonexistence = God. Good = God. Evil = God.

Now don't let this knowledge give you a big head, because everything and anything is also God.

God has many names, as many as you can imagine. God is also nameless, formless and unknowable.

God is. is.

Now, it's your choice whether or not you wish to continue playing your game.

The god squad will make it hard for you. They agree on nothing so dont expect any real answers. They are good for a laugh though.':-)

Wrong, very wrong. New-Age is bad for your spiritual health, kid.

There is no evil in God.

Your problem isn't finding God. You think because He has nothing to say to you that He isn't there. You talk to Him all the time even though you say you will never talk to Him again. What you really want is proof of the supernatural. You've done the Ouija Board and got nothing. You've spent the night in a haunted house and got zip. Why should God talk to you? Don't get confused and think you can get His attention by doing good. He has angels that can do what He wants done, faster and better than you ever could. There's a story in the Bible about a General that was sick and wanted to be healed. He went to a Prophet and asked him "What do I have to do to get your God to heal me." The Prophet said "Go take a bath in the river." The General started to leave because he thought the whole thing was a waste of his time. His friend stopped him and said "If it was hard you would have done what the Prophet said. Why not be glad its simple and go on and do it. What do you have to loose?" You know the rest.

Go take a bath and you will have what you want.

I think by the starting of this thread, you have put a marker down to seek him again.

Just want to know , have you ever been saved from something that you should have been hurt or it worked out for you against all the odds?.

If you have question those things and then let me know if God was not working in your life.

I would say to get on your knees and ask for him to be your father, with a full heart, not half assed.

The work of the Holy Spirit is a progressive works, you are not going to snap out of your old life in an instant and have him change you, then next week you say cheers Lord i can take it from here again and go back to the same stuff you did before.

I am just the same as you op. Have concluded life is suffering and we are here to suffer and to be away from God.

Duality is such. Already Buddha did know. But not all here is dual. Search the Absolute which brings bliss about.

Sounds like you are experiencing the 'dark night of the soul'.
It happens to many who seriously follow the spiritual path.
The main thing is, DON'T GIVE UP. Be aware though, it may take years of ups and downs before you build the relationship with God you desire.

The reason that you say you experienced God on a psychadelic drug of sorts, is because in that moment, we are separated from our conditioned state of mind....

I don't get why it would have been angry, perhaps this was something that needed to be released from your subconscious....

You will find that every part of this world is a trick, a deceit, to keep you from finding the truth...

Every advert, television, website (GLP) hehe and any other outlet, including the sickly fast foods, the animals who are prisoners, and every other filthy destruction caused by the lust of men.

Only once we can see through this filth, and make changes around it, we can open up to the universe...

I have had some transcending experiences on weed, like was overcome by the spirit, in total love and emotion... I cried for hours and just said yes I will do it, and I didn't know it was you.....

It was a direct link to that pure essence.....

If you want to find God, go somewhere and find a horse.... One day I was out doing deliveries in the country and met a clydesdayle horse in this paddock...

It was the biggest horse I have ever seen..... and it came over to meet me....

I was shitting myself just thinking dont be scared dont be scared..... even though there was a little fence between us.....

I started speaking to it, saying "you are the most beautiful thing I have ever seen"

and patted it, and out of nowhere, its head disappeared for a second and it planted it right in the middle of my chest, and I was all of a sudden hugging this giant horse head....

I felt a wave of pure love overcome me, not as strong as the other times, but it was strong enough to make me know that this horses spirit was pure, and it was not only connected to me, it loved me like I loved it....

If you wan't to connect to god, go and find some of his creatures, like horses, and connect with them, because through Gods creation, we find the love that is within all of it....

Just look at a bee for instance...... :)

keep the faith, never stop believing in god, Your rewards will be in Heaven. I think we've all felt this way. Search your heart, Look at what you do have, Only takes a little faith. chin up.
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