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Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural

 
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I know in my heart as a Christian that it's His burial cloth, I was looking at it the moment I was born again in Christ.
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A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men"

[link to www.thenazareneway.com]
 Quoting: wildhoney


agreed. Jesus was tall. I thought you were saying that there is no way Jesus was tall because most men were short in that day.

there were tall men, obviously. but the average height was about 5'6-5'8
 Quoting: Salt


I beg to disagree the average height was in my opinion no way near that..not even in the Northern European Tribes..and they were among the tallest..sure you get an odd exception here and there..but in average the height was much shorter..
 Quoting: wildhoney


Luv the subject cannot resist to put my 2c ;)
Im with honey... Average roman less than 5.6 on our books, we have references of Gaius Marius legionaries fearin a 6.0 Gaul-German before Vercellae battle
And references by Caesar recruiting at his cost padanian Gauls for the same reason before gallia' conquest
No "cubitic" references for Israelites height imho
After 1 AD, height references by historians relates to exeptional tall Emperors/Generals due to the fact the empire became a sort of meltin pot after full citizenship law

So.. Basically Christans think science is a joke until a "scientist" tries to prove Jesus.

Fucking hypocrites
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


laugh

Shroud of turin may be "supernatural" or it could be an elaborate hoax.

One thing is for sure......it has nothing to do with the burial cloth of JESUS CHRIST.

Jesus did not have long hair (check your bible) Jesus was from Nazareth and was not under a NAZARENE VOW which is what Samson from the Old testament had.

It is a shame for a man to have long hair. Jesus wouldn't have let that in HIS WORD and then broken it by wearing his hair long.

That is why this isn't Jesus Christ.....oh it might have been a crucified man, but it wasn't Jesus

Second thing:

If you read the gospels, the burial cloths had a headpeice which was separate from the body wrapping. So that alone tells you this Turing Shroud is somebody elses doing and not the burial cloth of Jesus.

SORRY PEOPLE..........you've been duped by Roman Catholic Superstition......

Get the hell away from the POPE or you will all burn in what's coming.

READ YOUR BIBLE AND STOP FOLLOWING AFTER B.S. Stories made up by idolaters.
 Quoting: Dr_Kynes 4209135


Are you serious?..The Nazarenes wore their hair long

And there is a separate burial clothn that covered the face..allegedly the Sudarium of Oviedo
 Quoting: wildhoney


Told ya
too many people readin subject only...
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Not this mumbo jumbo cafflick bs again.

THE SHROUD OF TURIN MYSTERY SOLVED FROM THE BIBLE
[link to cephas-library.com]


you caffs are NOT Christians, stop pretending you bloody idolaters!
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]

Roman Catholicism is NOT Christian
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
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 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Romans 14:1 read it.
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Not this mumbo jumbo cafflick bs again.

THE SHROUD OF TURIN MYSTERY SOLVED FROM THE BIBLE
[link to cephas-library.com]


you caffs are NOT Christians, stop pretending you bloody idolaters!
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]

Roman Catholicism is NOT Christian
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


fact: They mystery of the Shroud has NOT been solved.

period, end of sentence.


it has been proven, however, that it is not a fake.
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Not this mumbo jumbo cafflick bs again.

THE SHROUD OF TURIN MYSTERY SOLVED FROM THE BIBLE
[link to cephas-library.com]


you caffs are NOT Christians, stop pretending you bloody idolaters!
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]

Roman Catholicism is NOT Christian
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Romans 14:1 read it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24145634


Actually, to avoid any context issues, read the whole chapter.
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why do you sheep look for proof that an inanimate object is holy?you put all your trust in your Idols,you will fall by the way side ,beware the traps that lead to hell!.............sheep
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I believe in it 200%
 Quoting: wildhoney


Are you bipolar or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24866361


No I am mentally quite well balanced thank you..Thanks be to God.
I have been reading and studying about it and I believe in it absolutely 200 %
 Quoting: wildhoney


I believe in it too, but more obsolutelier that you at a whopping 350%!
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agreed. Jesus was tall. I thought you were saying that there is no way Jesus was tall because most men were short in that day.

there were tall men, obviously. but the average height was about 5'6-5'8
 Quoting: Salt


I beg to disagree the average height was in my opinion no way near that..not even in the Northern European Tribes..and they were among the tallest..sure you get an odd exception here and there..but in average the height was much shorter..
 Quoting: wildhoney



Celts of that time are thought to be above normal in size, but they had soap and bathed separately, among other things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26722864


I wasnt refering to the celts..I was referring to the Germanic Tribes of the North
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Yes but you said the Northern European Tribes were among the tallest, yet 5' 9" to 6' 0" amoung the celts was no big deal at all.
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the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet
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Maybe you should get your facts right , either that or just crack a beer open and watch some soap
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Leave him alone. Hell needs people too.
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why do you sheep look for proof that an inanimate object is holy?you put all your trust in your Idols,you will fall by the way side ,beware the traps that lead to hell!.............sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


Not a single person has said they worship the cloth or deem it as holy. Trust me, Christians know what idolatry is, and discussing a cloth and defending it is not idolatry in any way.
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I know in my heart as a Christian that it's His burial cloth, I was looking at it the moment I was born again in Christ.
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the face on the cloth is the face of Jacques De Moley, he is now getting revenge !..........sheep
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Not this mumbo jumbo cafflick bs again.

THE SHROUD OF TURIN MYSTERY SOLVED FROM THE BIBLE
[link to cephas-library.com]


you caffs are NOT Christians, stop pretending you bloody idolaters!
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]

Roman Catholicism is NOT Christian
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
[link to www.christ-saviour.com]
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


norespect

I know in my heart as a Christian that it's His burial cloth, I was looking at it the moment I was born again in Christ.
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


the face on the cloth is the face of Jacques De Moley, he is now getting revenge !..........sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


churchlady
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To me I just see that the article says this, "This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date" and for me the "TO DATE" part is a big deal cause as we learn more we may find this was not as hard to pull off as we thought or also it may have also been a natural thing that happened that we still just don't know about. It also just seems to me that if we can recreate it, then that takes the supernatural out of it, even if it did seem impossible at that time. So soon we can recreate god? IDK.
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- Italian government scientists
- The study is not published anywhere
- Scientists calling something 'supernatural'

Sounds pretty legit to me.

PS: This 'news' is from 2011.
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Oh and I still worry for the gov. scientist if we figure it out. But maybe by then the gov. will have gotten it's act together and those seismologist will be safely back at work.
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- Italian government scientists
- The study is not published anywhere
- Scientists calling something 'supernatural'

Sounds pretty legit to me.

PS: This 'news' is from 2011.
 Quoting: Gespenst


That's a good point! Wonder if any more recent update are avail. I'm really interested now. I have seen that documentary at least 3 times but just was not moved by it and to be honest this article either, but this discussion was a lot better, maybe cause it was interactive and not just a one way info feed. LOL
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If you listen to the utube about the Sudarium something very interesting transpires imo..

They say
1.The cloth was allegedly pinned at the back of the head..by the blood stains..the BODY WAS ALIVE WHEN THIS WAS PINNED..though not after

2.The way the cloth seems to have been INITIALLY folded..it was double wrapped because the head was leaning on the right against the right raised arm..

Subsecuently it was wrapped AROUND the head

guys this is important imo

This could indicate that the Sudarium was placed on Christ while on the cross or before raised up..with the intent of covering His face after death..while remaining on the cross, and it was used for this..and covered His face after death while on the cross

In my opinion that is why according to the wraps at first it wasnt wrapped around..because they couldnt because the head was against the right arm..only later when taken down and the arms lowered was it wrapped around the head and the body enclosed as in the Shroud..my opinion..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

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I know in my heart as a Christian that it's His burial cloth, I was looking at it the moment I was born again in Christ.
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


the face on the cloth is the face of Jacques De Moley, he is now getting revenge !..........sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


Dont be ridiculous..my opinion anyway..gosh ..please do better than that..if you can
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

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- Italian government scientists
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- Scientists calling something 'supernatural'

Sounds pretty legit to me.

PS: This 'news' is from 2011.
 Quoting: Gespenst


That's a good point! Wonder if any more recent update are avail. I'm really interested now. I have seen that documentary at least 3 times but just was not moved by it and to be honest this article either, but this discussion was a lot better, maybe cause it was interactive and not just a one way info feed. LOL
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Isnt published coz ENEA, being a public istitution, print for free...

Full Shroud analisys reported by in charge official
P1 [link to www.frascati.enea.it]
P2 [link to www.frascati.enea.it]

early Comparison research on UV-VUV by team before full analisys
[link to opac.bologna.enea.it:8991]

beware...its Italian

hf
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lol the absolute final finding was that its a middle age fake..
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Oh, no it wasn't.

What's up with all this desperately hanging onto the belief that the image on the Shroud isn't Jesus? So what if it is? It's not going to affect your life. It's not like Jesus is going to force you to stop being a heathen.

Lighten up.
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Didn't somebody have a theory that it wasn't Jesus at all, but some guy who was tortured in the Middle Ages? The extreme stress of the torture caused the imprint to form. It would be an unlikely occurrence, depending on all factors lining up very precisely, but it may be scientifically possible.
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I guess anything is possible. Hell I am still on the fence about a lot of things so.. maybe it was Atlantians and their crystal technology or maybe......
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If you listen to the utube about the Sudarium something very interesting transpires imo..

They say
1.The cloth was allegedly pinned at the back of the head..by the blood stains..the BODY WAS ALIVE WHEN THIS WAS PINNED..though not after

2.The way the cloth seems to have been INITIALLY folded..it was double wrapped because the head was leaning on the right against the right raised arm..

Subsecuently it was wrapped AROUND the head

guys this is important imo

This could indicate that the Sudarium was placed on Christ while on the cross or before raised up..with the intent of covering His face after death..while remaining on the cross, and it was used for this..and covered His face after death while on the cross

In my opinion that is why according to the wraps at first it wasnt wrapped around..because they couldnt because the head was against the right arm..only later when taken down and the arms lowered was it wrapped around the head and the body enclosed as in the Shroud..my opinion..
 Quoting: wildhoney


DEAD MEN DON'T BLEED
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If you listen to the utube about the Sudarium something very interesting transpires imo..

They say
1.The cloth was allegedly pinned at the back of the head..by the blood stains..the BODY WAS ALIVE WHEN THIS WAS PINNED..though not after

2.The way the cloth seems to have been INITIALLY folded..it was double wrapped because the head was leaning on the right against the right raised arm..

Subsecuently it was wrapped AROUND the head

guys this is important imo

This could indicate that the Sudarium was placed on Christ while on the cross or before raised up..with the intent of covering His face after death..while remaining on the cross, and it was used for this..and covered His face after death while on the cross

In my opinion that is why according to the wraps at first it wasnt wrapped around..because they couldnt because the head was against the right arm..only later when taken down and the arms lowered was it wrapped around the head and the body enclosed as in the Shroud..my opinion..
 Quoting: wildhoney


DEAD MEN DON'T BLEED
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


exactly..only the stain at the back of the head indicates He was alive..the others after He died

therefore in my opinion

it was pinned when He was put on the cross..with the intention of covering His face after death..probably pinned by His loved ones..to cover His countenance after death..

And was used for that..in my opinion again..because the stains of blood from the nose etc..when wrapped..are of cadaver..and it was double folded allegedly because the head was leaning against the right arm and couldnt be moved..the dead body was still on the cross! so imo they covered His face when on the cross after death..and then lowered Him and wrapped it around properly..and then placed the body in the Sudarium

this is amazing!

wonderful..hf

Last Edited by wildhoney on 11/08/2012 06:29 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

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probably not only to cover His face in death but to protect it from birds..flies etc..while it remained on the cross..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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So.. Basically Christans think science is a joke until a "scientist" tries to prove Jesus.

Fucking hypocrites
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...and that pretty much sums it up
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Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The italian government has ties with the Roman Catholic church... Of course they will say its official..
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The scientist work for the matrix, ever heard of 'peer review' a bunch of shadow authority that gave themseles the authority to approve information before distribution to the sheeple. Do your research and be prepared to find that there is NO historical Jesus, absolutely NO evidence. The first century Romans wrote the ficticious book for the Divine Ceasar. Read 'The Ceasar's Jesus' or better yet, watch the documentary. Trust me, I understand how difficult this is for the devout followers of Jesus Christ, but the facts are there, just look for yourselves.
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I heard about this about five years ago... . just sayin'
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too

so for example to repeat

its a medieval forgery

its a medieval forgery

over and over again hoping it sticks

but the facts in my opinion indicate the contrary ..from the weave of the cloth..to the coins..to the earth..the polen the blood

etc..

remember most of this evidence..forensic et non..could NOT BE TESTED BEFORE THE XX CENTURY..

this speaks for itself imo

Last Edited by wildhoney on 11/08/2012 06:35 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

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