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Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural

 
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too

so for example to repeat

its a medieval forgery

its a medieval forgery

over and over again hoping it sticks

but the facts in my opinion indicate the contrary ..from the weave of the cloth..to the coins..to the earth..the polen the blood

etc..

remember most of this evidence..forensic et non..could NOT BE TESTED BEFORE THE XX CENTURY..

this speaks for itself imo
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1st with dna test they said it wasn't no where near the time of christ, now there saying it could be! sounds like they are trying to convince us it is, really really!
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too
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Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!!
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14727586


In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud..
It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us.
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

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Silly sheep cant you see that this is a trap placed in front of you?This cloth you worship is just a conundrum just as the oak island pit is,many will seek their answer but never find,Those Templar's were smarter than you people.................sheep
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14727586


In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud..
It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us.
 Quoting: wildhoney


Interesting, the most important act of JESUS CHRIST has been recorded and proved in an imfathonable way that could not have even been comprehended a thousand years ago to fake.
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The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud

but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God

to show a doubting evil world

Jesus Christ is real.

THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings

he is returning soon to this earth

all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14727586


In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud..
It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us.
 Quoting: wildhoney


Interesting, the most important act of JESUS CHRIST has been recorded and proved in an imfathonable way that could not have even been comprehended a thousand years ago to fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992


hf
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The shroud is very real and is proof that Jesus is with the lord! And this means life after death! Which is a win win for us all! Amen.
JAA
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The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud

but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God

to show a doubting evil world

Jesus Christ is real.

THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings

he is returning soon to this earth

all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Who worships it? Why do say that?
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The illuminati is based in Italy. You would actually take anything this matrix dishes out to the people as truth, after all we now know? Jeez
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its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14727586


In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud..
It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us.
 Quoting: wildhoney


Interesting, the most important act of JESUS CHRIST has been recorded and proved in an imfathonable way that could not have even been comprehended a thousand years ago to fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992


Precisely

if it was a medieval fake

why bother putting the pòlen?

why bother putting the fragments of earth from that region?

why bother using a cloth of herring bone weave typical of the 1st century and of that region?

why bother respecting the right materials to make the cloth according to religious traditions?

why bother placing the coins on the eyes..coins of Pontius Pilates time?

why bother using blood?

why bother replicating the forensic evidence stated in the Gospels?

why bother making a multidimensional image?

why bother using fluids and blood of a cadaver for the side wound?

why bother any of this?

IF IT COULDNT HAVE BEEN SEEN OR TESTED TILL THE XX CENTURY?

no one would have been the wiser..they could have used paint..splashed some inages on any old cloth and voila..say its His burial cloth..no one would have known any better TILL THE PRESENT DAY when SCIENCE could find out all the particulars above stated

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Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

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Complete horse shit.

The Vatican just refuses to give up.
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Complete horse shit.

The Vatican just refuses to give up.
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Again the cloth allegedly existed before the Catholic Church was in possession of it..are you reading the posts at all?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud

but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God

to show a doubting evil world

Jesus Christ is real.

THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings

he is returning soon to this earth

all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Who worships it? Why do say that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992


I am simply replying to a comment made on here

Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ

himself
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Faith negates proof
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The shroud is very real and is proof that Jesus is with the lord! And this means life after death! Which is a win win for us all! Amen.
 Quoting: WISE GUY


this shroud has Jacques de Moley's face on it.....stupidsheepwill believe any thing the church tells them,most of the time it is a trap.beware little sheep ..............................sheep
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The shroud is very real and is proof that Jesus is with the lord! And this means life after death! Which is a win win for us all! Amen.
 Quoting: WISE GUY


this shroud has Jacques de Moley's face on it.....stupidsheepwill believe any thing the church tells them,most of the time it is a trap.beware little sheep ..............................sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


You refute all the facts and repeat and repeat..hoping some sheeple will do as they have done before..and repeat and repeat what they are told to repeat and believe without using their own logic and brain because it is more of an effort to think and reach ones own deduction than it is to simply just repeat ..?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud

but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God

to show a doubting evil world

Jesus Christ is real.

THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings

he is returning soon to this earth

all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Who worships it? Why do say that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992


I am simply replying to a comment made on here

Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ

himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Exactly, who and where did they say they worship it? I am very curious...
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The proof is so extensive that even if Jesus were to come back and do a program on it himself and it's authenticity

this f'd up world would still doubt it

The fact is: Jesus Christ will come back soon and all

will be overcome by his glory or just plain scared shaitless

at his presence....

If any of you doubters are curious ; Read the Book of Revelation and in it you will find

a description of Jesus Christ's appearance at his return...

Not for the faint of heart or those lost
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No, no they still don't...

Maybe some do, but those ones would also believe that HarryPotter is a series of scientific documentaries.
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The proof is so extensive that even if Jesus were to come back and do a program on it himself and it's authenticity

this f'd up world would still doubt it

The fact is: Jesus Christ will come back soon and all

will be overcome by his glory or just plain scared shaitless

at his presence....

If any of you doubters are curious ; Read the Book of Revelation and in it you will find

a description of Jesus Christ's appearance at his return...

Not for the faint of heart or those lost
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change "IF" with "WHEN"
and
"WOULD STILL" with "WILL"
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Silly sheep cant you see that this is a trap placed in front of you?This cloth you worship is just a conundrum just as the oak island pit is,many will seek their answer but never find,Those Templar's were smarter than you people.................sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


here it is
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The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud

but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God

to show a doubting evil world

Jesus Christ is real.

THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings

he is returning soon to this earth

all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Who worships it? Why do say that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992


I am simply replying to a comment made on here

Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ

himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Exactly, who and where did they say they worship it? I am very curious...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992

Silly cant you see that this is a trap placed in front of you?This cloth you worship is just a conundrum just as the oak island pit is,many will seek their answer but never find,Those Templar's were smarter than you people.................
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Who worships it? Why do say that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992


I am simply replying to a comment made on here

Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ

himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


Exactly, who and where did they say they worship it? I am very curious...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22697992

Silly cant you see that this is a trap placed in front of you?This cloth you worship is just a conundrum just as the oak island pit is,many will seek their answer but never find,Those Templar's were smarter than you people.................
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374

here is one
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 Quoting: wildhoney


With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
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 Quoting: wildhoney


With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
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the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet
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Maybe you should get your facts right , either that or just crack a beer open and watch some soap
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Leave him alone. Hell needs people too.
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lmao
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Seems a double edge sword to me and it is almost better and more of a proof if we can't recreate it in a lab type setting. If we can them it is either not supernatural at all or we have as much power to create supernatural acts as this supposed omnipotent creator can and in time possibly create a creator ourselves, and the implications of that are a bit staggering to me to be honest. It is already frightening at times just how advanced we have become these days, even when we do thing for good, like medicines and various technologies that save and improve the quality of our lives, the sorts of things previous generations could hardly imagine but a select few. Sort of hope they have not opened a can of worms for themselves with this, either way really. This just gets deeper and more interesting the more we talk and contemplate about it. Unfortunately this has been a day of distractions for me and now I really have to go as the kids will be calling me non-stop for the rest of this night. I will check out the thread from time to time to read your ideas and opinions. Thanks for the lovely conversation on this now very interesting subject to me and take care all. : )

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