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Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural

 
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With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
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I beg to differ..there are paintings etc..that allegedly depict the Shroud before that date..also we have the link with the Sudarium which dates back..dcumentedly to the first centures AD

We also have the type of cloth that is typical OF THE FIRST CENTURY AD and of the region of Palestine

etc..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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WHY does this matter?
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Not to mention the coins on the eyes..of the time of Pontius Pilate allegedly

Coins which could not be seen till recently using reportedly NASA technology

again why on earth would anyone bother with the coins and all the rest of it IF IT COULDNT BE SEEN TILL NOW?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

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Re: Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural

 Quoting: wildhoney


With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
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it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century

this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic
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 Quoting: wildhoney


With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26741723



it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century

this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century

ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment

they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ...

get a clue
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When I look at it there is something powerful, I always thought that eventually it would be found credible.
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I want a camera when the lord does return so I can get a good pic of some of these people's faces who denied His existence

all their lives
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With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26741723



it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century

this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century

ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment

they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ...

get a clue
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc..

THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN

because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it

they could have literally used paint..or tomato juice or whatever..no one would have known any better

Last Edited by wildhoney on 11/08/2012 07:59 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

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you'll waste your life waiting then, no one is comming
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and a multidimensional image ? come on guys

an image that according to the pressure of the body on the linen seems to have been levitating in a horizontal position?

XIII century?

yeah right
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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AND only the first fibers marked..singed..as per allegedly energy blast? only the first microscopic fibers..?

Creating a multidimensional image?

XIII century?

yeah right
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

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you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26741723



it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century

this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century

ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment

they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ...

get a clue
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc..

THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN

because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it

they could have literally used paint..or tomatoe juice or whatever..no one would have known any better
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes

amount of examples of proof is amazing

the coin itself is fantastic

the three letters and the "c" letter was totally unknown in history until someone in this century found it

and it took a high powered microscope to even see the coin in his eye

How the hell would a 13 century forger come up with that??

Excuse my feelings, but I am pretty passionate about this....

it have known of this since I was 15 and it is obvious to me a well educated person this could NOT have been a forgery

who could have done this in the 13 century

those who doubt it are just plain stupid....
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AND only the first fibers marked..singed..as per allegedly energy blast FROM WITHIN THE BODY? only the first microscopic fibers..?

Creating a multidimensional image?

XIII century?

yeah right
 Quoting: wildhoney

Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

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it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century

this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century

ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment

they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ...

get a clue
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374


exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc..

THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN

because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it

they could have literally used paint..or tomatoe juice or whatever..no one would have known any better
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes

amount of examples of proof is amazing

the coin itself is fantastic

the three letters and the "c" letter was totally unknown in history until someone in this century found it

and it took a high powered microscope to even see the coin in his eye

How the hell would a 13 century forger come up with that??

Excuse my feelings, but I am pretty passionate about this....

it have known of this since I was 15 and it is obvious to me a well educated person this could NOT have been a forgery

who could have done this in the 13 century

those who doubt it are just plain stupid....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374

It seems it was High Tech NASA equipment that picked out the image of the coins on the eyes..

XIII century..lol yeah ohyeah
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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you'll waste your life waiting then, no one is comming
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the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet
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You are right. That's why there are some many cloths laying around with people's image on it.

I mean the whole world is full of them. You can find them anyplace.

Check Craigslist.
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And interestingly the crown of thorns

the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns

XIII century?

oh suuuure
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

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And interestingly the crown of thorns

the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns

XIII century?

oh suuuure
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes so many of them

long list

The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple...

the temple was destroyed in 70 ad

THis in itself is amazing

and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land

amazing

I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads....


God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface...

the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!!
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And interestingly the crown of thorns

the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns

XIII century?

oh suuuure
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes so many of them

long list

The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple...

the temple was destroyed in 70 ad

THis in itself is amazing

and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land

amazing

I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads....


God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface...

the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374

good point..I agree.. I think it was a message for today..when man would have the means to test it and what info it contains

why today? because I think we are in the end times

and in my opinion He had to show us what I think is proof that He is who He is ..so there would be no doubt....the cloth that reportedly contained His body and was in my view witness to His Resurrection

and still we would doubt..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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I believe this is because God is just and His Judgement is Just therefore all must be given to disperse doubt..and time to learn and to apply..so it can never be said that God has been unjust in applying Justice
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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I was cloned from the Shroud of Turin.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You can not clone a spirit
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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This I believe is the final gift..the cloth and the means to test it..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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I believe this is because God is just and His Judgement is Just therefore all must be given to disperse doubt..and time to learn and to apply..so it can never be said that God has been unjust in applying Justice
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is this your thread, Wild?
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With God, all things are possible.

And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.
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the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301


You are right. That's why there are some many cloths laying around with people's image on it.

I mean the whole world is full of them. You can find them anyplace.

Check Craigslist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26673944


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you'll waste your life waiting then, no one is comming
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better start enjoying yours before your country turns to shit.
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And interestingly the crown of thorns

the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns

XIII century?

oh suuuure
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes so many of them

long list

The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple...

the temple was destroyed in 70 ad

THis in itself is amazing

and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land

amazing

I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads....


God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface...

the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374

good point..I agree.. I think it was a message for today..when man would have the means to test it and what info it contains

why today? because I think we are in the end times

and in my opinion He had to show us what I think is proof that He is who He is ..so there would be no doubt....the cloth that reportedly contained His body and was in my view witness to His Resurrection

and still we would doubt..
 Quoting: wildhoney

yes

agree

still they doubt
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Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17040466


AS his body ascended(teleported/transmuted) it created an intense flash of light creating a kind of radiation burn on the cloth.

I have know about this for years.
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Scientist = 21st century priests


The same infallible logical ones who give us..........


GMO poison food,weapons of mass destruction, drugs that cover up symptoms but don't cure, chemical and viral weapons, brain washing and mind control techniques, technologies that enslave, whatever the paying benefactor wants to hear, (coffee good/coffee bad, vaccines good/vaccines bad etc.), you get the gist.


Scientist fight scientist....some destroy, others search for repair.


In a world that is growing dimmer by the day, it's the dark scientific priestcraft that ENABLES the elite to enslave.



I'll put my trust and faith in things higher.
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scientists are seeking avenues to negate the existence of God.

they call it the search for truth.
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No Christians here yet?

Ok..lets talk

throw me what you got to debunk except cheap and easy words..facts!
 Quoting: wildhoney



I'm a Christian. There is one thing that also fascinated me was in scripture He physically went out of the wrappings. Some translations say the cloth was folded up. But when we think "folded up" we think someone neatly folded it. That's not what another translation says. Folded up means it was standing with folds to indicate he had to go through the cloth to have the cloth standing in folds as though there was a body there. It blew me away. I'm reading the bible and it's saying he had to go through the cloth!

So, yes this would make total sense scientifically as he said "he is the light of the world." Light think of it. It means so much in so many ways....

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