Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27140665 Brazil 11/08/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too Quoting: wildhoney so for example to repeat its a medieval forgery its a medieval forgery over and over again hoping it sticks but the facts in my opinion indicate the contrary ..from the weave of the cloth..to the coins..to the earth..the polen the blood etc.. remember most of this evidence..forensic et non..could NOT BE TESTED BEFORE THE XX CENTURY.. this speaks for itself imo [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too Quoting: wildhoney Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!! In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud.. It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22697992 United States 11/08/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too Quoting: wildhoney Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!! In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud.. It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us. Interesting, the most important act of JESUS CHRIST has been recorded and proved in an imfathonable way that could not have even been comprehended a thousand years ago to fake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God to show a doubting evil world Jesus Christ is real. THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings he is returning soon to this earth all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication |
Kootsweet User ID: 26631765 United States 11/08/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too Quoting: wildhoney Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!! In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud.. It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us. Interesting, the most important act of JESUS CHRIST has been recorded and proved in an imfathonable way that could not have even been comprehended a thousand years ago to fake. Kootsweet |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22697992 United States 11/08/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374 but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God to show a doubting evil world Jesus Christ is real. THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings he is returning soon to this earth all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication Who worships it? Why do say that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its called subliminal programming..an assertion is repeated over and over again..usually not backed by facts till it sinks in the subconscious and accepted as truth..and the person repeats it too Quoting: wildhoney Yes, that is exactly what religion does!!! In this thread I have still to see words based on facts disproving the Shroud.. It simply isnt enough to repeat words like a parrot..we are not drooling morons that just regurgitate what is spoon fed to us. Interesting, the most important act of JESUS CHRIST has been recorded and proved in an imfathonable way that could not have even been comprehended a thousand years ago to fake. Precisely if it was a medieval fake why bother putting the pòlen? why bother putting the fragments of earth from that region? why bother using a cloth of herring bone weave typical of the 1st century and of that region? why bother respecting the right materials to make the cloth according to religious traditions? why bother placing the coins on the eyes..coins of Pontius Pilates time? why bother using blood? why bother replicating the forensic evidence stated in the Gospels? why bother making a multidimensional image? why bother using fluids and blood of a cadaver for the side wound? why bother any of this? IF IT COULDNT HAVE BEEN SEEN OR TESTED TILL THE XX CENTURY? no one would have been the wiser..they could have used paint..splashed some inages on any old cloth and voila..say its His burial cloth..no one would have known any better TILL THE PRESENT DAY when SCIENCE could find out all the particulars above stated |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374 but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God to show a doubting evil world Jesus Christ is real. THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings he is returning soon to this earth all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication Who worships it? Why do say that? I am simply replying to a comment made on here Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ himself |
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Mi'Kmaq User ID: 1002628 Puerto Rico 11/08/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shroud is very real and is proof that Jesus is with the lord! And this means life after death! Which is a win win for us all! Amen. Quoting: WISE GUY this shroud has Jacques de Moley's face on it.....stupidwill believe any thing the church tells them,most of the time it is a trap.beware little .............................. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shroud is very real and is proof that Jesus is with the lord! And this means life after death! Which is a win win for us all! Amen. Quoting: WISE GUY this shroud has Jacques de Moley's face on it.....stupidwill believe any thing the church tells them,most of the time it is a trap.beware little .............................. You refute all the facts and repeat and repeat..hoping some sheeple will do as they have done before..and repeat and repeat what they are told to repeat and believe without using their own logic and brain because it is more of an effort to think and reach ones own deduction than it is to simply just repeat ..? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22697992 United States 11/08/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374 but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God to show a doubting evil world Jesus Christ is real. THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings he is returning soon to this earth all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication Who worships it? Why do say that? I am simply replying to a comment made on here Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ himself Exactly, who and where did they say they worship it? I am very curious... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this f'd up world would still doubt it The fact is: Jesus Christ will come back soon and all will be overcome by his glory or just plain scared shaitless at his presence.... If any of you doubters are curious ; Read the Book of Revelation and in it you will find a description of Jesus Christ's appearance at his return... Not for the faint of heart or those lost |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302855 Italy 11/08/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The proof is so extensive that even if Jesus were to come back and do a program on it himself and it's authenticity Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374 this f'd up world would still doubt it The fact is: Jesus Christ will come back soon and all will be overcome by his glory or just plain scared shaitless at his presence.... If any of you doubters are curious ; Read the Book of Revelation and in it you will find a description of Jesus Christ's appearance at his return... Not for the faint of heart or those lost change "IF" with "WHEN" and "WOULD STILL" with "WILL" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart ones don't 'worship' the shroud Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374 but know that it is the burial shroud of Christ and the evidence was simply allowed to be preserved by God to show a doubting evil world Jesus Christ is real. THe smart ones don't worship it but love and follow Jesus Christ the real King of Kings he is returning soon to this earth all those increasing earthquakes you see are an indication Who worships it? Why do say that? I am simply replying to a comment made on here Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ himself Exactly, who and where did they say they worship it? I am very curious... Silly cant you see that this is a trap placed in front of you?This cloth you worship is just a conundrum just as the oak island pit is,many will seek their answer but never find,Those Templar's were smarter than you people................. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am simply replying to a comment made on here Smart believers DON"T worship it but love and follow christ himself Exactly, who and where did they say they worship it? I am very curious... Silly cant you see that this is a trap placed in front of you?This cloth you worship is just a conundrum just as the oak island pit is,many will seek their answer but never find,Those Templar's were smarter than you people................. here is one |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26741723 United States 11/08/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With God, all things are possible. And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it. you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. |
SolitaryWildFlower User ID: 8595770 United States 11/08/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 Maybe you should get your facts right , either that or just crack a beer open and watch some soap Leave him alone. Hell needs people too. I see the sadness behind the smile. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15766346 United States 11/08/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems a double edge sword to me and it is almost better and more of a proof if we can't recreate it in a lab type setting. If we can them it is either not supernatural at all or we have as much power to create supernatural acts as this supposed omnipotent creator can and in time possibly create a creator ourselves, and the implications of that are a bit staggering to me to be honest. It is already frightening at times just how advanced we have become these days, even when we do thing for good, like medicines and various technologies that save and improve the quality of our lives, the sorts of things previous generations could hardly imagine but a select few. Sort of hope they have not opened a can of worms for themselves with this, either way really. This just gets deeper and more interesting the more we talk and contemplate about it. Unfortunately this has been a day of distractions for me and now I really have to go as the kids will be calling me non-stop for the rest of this night. I will check out the thread from time to time to read your ideas and opinions. Thanks for the lovely conversation on this now very interesting subject to me and take care all. : ) |