Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural

you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.

Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.

it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century

this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic

they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century

ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment

they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ...

get a clue

exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc..

THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN

because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it

they could have literally used paint..or tomatoe juice or whatever..no one would have known any better

AND only the first fibers marked..singed..as per allegedly energy blast FROM WITHIN THE BODY? only the first microscopic fibers..?

Creating a multidimensional image?

XIII century?

yeah right

Yes

amount of examples of proof is amazing

the coin itself is fantastic

the three letters and the "c" letter was totally unknown in history until someone in this century found it

and it took a high powered microscope to even see the coin in his eye

How the hell would a 13 century forger come up with that??

Excuse my feelings, but I am pretty passionate about this....

it have known of this since I was 15 and it is obvious to me a well educated person this could NOT have been a forgery

who could have done this in the 13 century

those who doubt it are just plain stupid....

you'll waste your life waiting then, no one is comming

the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet

And interestingly the crown of thorns

the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns

XIII century?

oh suuuure

Yes so many of them

long list

The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple...

the temple was destroyed in 70 ad

THis in itself is amazing

and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land

amazing

I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads....


God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface...

the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!!

I was cloned from the Shroud of Turin.

I believe this is because God is just and His Judgement is Just therefore all must be given to disperse doubt..and time to learn and to apply..so it can never be said that God has been unjust in applying Justice

you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up.

You are right. That's why there are some many cloths laying around with people's image on it.

I mean the whole world is full of them. You can find them anyplace.

Check Craigslist.

you'll waste your life waiting then, no one is comming

good point..I agree.. I think it was a message for today..when man would have the means to test it and what info it contains

why today? because I think we are in the end times

and in my opinion He had to show us what I think is proof that He is who He is ..so there would be no doubt....the cloth that reportedly contained His body and was in my view witness to His Resurrection

and still we would doubt..

Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.

However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.

Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.

"The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

No Christians here yet?

Ok..lets talk

throw me what you got to debunk except cheap and easy words..facts!