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Why does the US support Israel?

 
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I'm no expert on US-Israel relations, so maybe someone on here can give me some answers. I have lately been wondering why the US and Israel have been virtually synonymous in the eyes of those who love and hate these countries. Is Israel essentially a satellite state of the US or is the US a satellite state of Israel? The whole thing is very confusing.

In fact, I have recently asked a handful of people I know why the US supports Israel and here are the answers I got:

- jewish people control the world
- The jewish people helped us win WWII since we were able to scoop up
so many scientists fleeing Germany and we, as a country,
feel obligated to help them.
- The Bible says that Christians must help defend Israel and
so, as a predominately Christian nation that is what we
must do

I know that a lot of people on this site probably believe in a Zionist conspiracy. But if that is true, does it not seem insanely coincidental that the Bible demands that Israel be protected? I mean, how convenient to not only control the world but also to have a Holy Book that demands your protection.

I am honestly very confused here...please enlighten me.
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Because theyre fuckin stupid... thats why.
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Any imbecile knows that our government is occupied. The support for
Israel is fraudulently commited from within. If most struggling people knew we gave over 50 billion a year to israel there'd be outrage. We ship them free oil straight from texas when that could be used to lower our own burden.

Look at the lobby. Look at how many dual citizen israelies are somehow in office. And here i thought you had to be an american. There's even one in control of the pentagon. Funnily enough during 911 too.

There is a very long list of them if you weren't aware. When you combine that with israeli owned banks and media it gives them lots of room to manipulate simple minded people. Just like with the recent muslim movie.

It's time to clean house folks. But you gotta snap out of your hypnotic state first.
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Why not the usa.
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It is also why people disect and analyze the legitimacy of Israel and the people claiming it. You can't just take a broad generalization of what Israel is or is supposed to be. So the Bible says Israel. What exactly is that?? Is that based on the line of Abraham? Cause if so then the jewish people are screwed.

First of all, Arabic people are also the line of Abraham. Yet we genocide them relentlessly. And there have been many studies, one notably from John Hopkins University just last week, that shows (proves) over 98% of israeli jewish people HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHATSOEVER!!! They are from Southern Russia! It is a vetted fact that will stand in a court of law.

Besides all that, if the bible with its 86,000 known man made alterations told you to torture and rape every woman on earth would you do it?? Of course not because you'd see how evil that is. Then why would you support the state of israel when they have commited such continuing horrendous atrocities?? You THINK they are defending themselves. But that is where your brainwashing comes in. Its where the media tricks you. It is actually the israelis who attack THEM by continually expanding their territory by bulldozing palestinian homes And stealing land they call establishments.

If somebody moved into your home at gunpoint, you'd probably throw some rocks too. And rightly so. Israel is the bad guy in this. It makes me laugh when knee jerk manchurians blindly defend them because they have obviously failed to look at the vetted facts. They just believe what they want to believe with nothing real to back it up.

Remember, either you believe the bible 100% or nothing at all. Picking and chosing what suits your fancy makes you an asshole and a hypocrate.
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It is also why people disect and analyze the legitimacy of Israel and the people claiming it. You can't just take a broad generalization of what Israel is or is supposed to be. So the Bible says Israel. What exactly is that?? Is that based on the line of Abraham? Cause if so then the jewish people are screwed.

First of all, Arabic people are also the line of Abraham. Yet we genocide them relentlessly. And there have been many studies, one notably from John Hopkins University just last week, that shows (proves) over 98% of israeli jewish people HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHATSOEVER!!! They are from Southern Russia! It is a vetted fact that will stand in a court of law.

Besides all that, if the bible with its 86,000 known man made alterations told you to torture and rape every woman on earth would you do it?? Of course not because you'd see how evil that is. Then why would you support the state of israel when they have commited such continuing horrendous atrocities?? You THINK they are defending themselves. But that is where your brainwashing comes in. Its where the media tricks you. It is actually the israelis who attack THEM by continually expanding their territory by bulldozing palestinian homes And stealing land they call establishments.

If somebody moved into your home at gunpoint, you'd probably throw some rocks too. And rightly so. Israel is the bad guy in this. It makes me laugh when knee jerk manchurians blindly defend them because they have obviously failed to look at the vetted facts. They just believe what they want to believe with nothing real to back it up.

Remember, either you believe the bible 100% or nothing at all. Picking and chosing what suits your fancy makes you an asshole and a hypocrate.
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I'd really like to see the study you cited about 98% of israelis coming from russia. Can you give me a link?
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It is also why people disect and analyze the legitimacy of Israel and the people claiming it. You can't just take a broad generalization of what Israel is or is supposed to be. So the Bible says Israel. What exactly is that?? Is that based on the line of Abraham? Cause if so then the jewish people are screwed.

First of all, Arabic people are also the line of Abraham. Yet we genocide them relentlessly. And there have been many studies, one notably from John Hopkins University just last week, that shows (proves) over 98% of israeli jewish people HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHATSOEVER!!! They are from Southern Russia! It is a vetted fact that will stand in a court of law.

Besides all that, if the bible with its 86,000 known man made alterations told you to torture and rape every woman on earth would you do it?? Of course not because you'd see how evil that is. Then why would you support the state of israel when they have commited such continuing horrendous atrocities?? You THINK they are defending themselves. But that is where your brainwashing comes in. Its where the media tricks you. It is actually the israelis who attack THEM by continually expanding their territory by bulldozing palestinian homes And stealing land they call establishments.

If somebody moved into your home at gunpoint, you'd probably throw some rocks too. And rightly so. Israel is the bad guy in this. It makes me laugh when knee jerk manchurians blindly defend them because they have obviously failed to look at the vetted facts. They just believe what they want to believe with nothing real to back it up.

Remember, either you believe the bible 100% or nothing at all. Picking and chosing what suits your fancy makes you an asshole and a hypocrate.
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I'd really like to see the study you cited about 98% of israelis coming from russia. Can you give me a link?
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I posted a thread on here about it just a few days ago. I don't know how to search GLP. I'm sure it's there though unless some crooked mod censored it. The title was something like 'jewish people are not the line of abraham'. Please post it for all to be enlightened by.
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simple story our government is controlled by the zionists, and most important folks in it have dual citizenship. ponder that one
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It is also why people disect and analyze the legitimacy of Israel and the people claiming it. You can't just take a broad generalization of what Israel is or is supposed to be. So the Bible says Israel. What exactly is that?? Is that based on the line of Abraham? Cause if so then the jewish people are screwed.

First of all, Arabic people are also the line of Abraham. Yet we genocide them relentlessly. And there have been many studies, one notably from John Hopkins University just last week, that shows (proves) over 98% of israeli jewish people HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHATSOEVER!!! They are from Southern Russia! It is a vetted fact that will stand in a court of law.

Besides all that, if the bible with its 86,000 known man made alterations told you to torture and rape every woman on earth would you do it?? Of course not because you'd see how evil that is. Then why would you support the state of israel when they have commited such continuing horrendous atrocities?? You THINK they are defending themselves. But that is where your brainwashing comes in. Its where the media tricks you. It is actually the israelis who attack THEM by continually expanding their territory by bulldozing palestinian homes And stealing land they call establishments.

If somebody moved into your home at gunpoint, you'd probably throw some rocks too. And rightly so. Israel is the bad guy in this. It makes me laugh when knee jerk manchurians blindly defend them because they have obviously failed to look at the vetted facts. They just believe what they want to believe with nothing real to back it up.

Remember, either you believe the bible 100% or nothing at all. Picking and chosing what suits your fancy makes you an asshole and a hypocrate.
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I'd really like to see the study you cited about 98% of israelis coming from russia. Can you give me a link?
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I posted a thread on here about it just a few days ago. I don't know how to search GLP. I'm sure it's there though unless some crooked mod censored it. The title was something like 'jewish people are not the line of abraham'. Please post it for all to be enlightened by.
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Never mind i found it. Heres a link to the study and the thread:
[link to truthtellers.org]

Thread: New Genetic Research Proves Khazar Theory. jewish people are NOT line of Abraham
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Put away your bible and wake the fuck up.

You "Christians" are the most brainwashed sheep on the planet.

Israel was behind 9/11, with alittle help from their Christian American friends in DC.

I am losing patience with you peeps.

You don't need "religion", you need the Good God and your intuition (this, and real courage, may have been removed from some men with the butchering of their peepees) and knowledge to reveal truth.
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Simple, the jew runs America. Nobody gets elected withiout his campaign donations. The jew's media will destroy him if he doesn't tow the line. The jew banks will lend him no more money if they don't like his attitude. They'll call in even his personal loans if he steps out of line. He'll be put in front of a jew judge on phony a tax rap if he doesn't see things their way.

The politician is a total slave to the jew.
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The short answer is because the US does period. The more involved answer is that Israel is the ONLY reliable ally that the US has in the ME. Thus it is the only base which the US has to promote its agenda. If you question this look at the period 1948 to present and find any other ME country that has supported US policy in the ways Israel has. Take note of the fact that of the UK/France/Russia/China any of the major powers other than the US have no reliable base of operations in the ME. The US is the only one.
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Simple, the jew runs America. Nobody gets elected withiout his campaign donations. The jew's media will destroy him if he doesn't tow the line. The jew banks will lend him no more money if they don't like his attitude. They'll call in even his personal loans if he steps out of line. He'll be put in front of a jew judge on phony a tax rap if he doesn't see things their way.

The politician is a total slave to the jew.
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If the jewish people run the US, why do we have a president who appears to be more inclined to hear and appease their enemies? The narrative seems to be that Obama doesn't care for Israel and won't even take the time to meet with their prime minister. So which is it? Did jewish people place Obama in office for him to turn his back on Israel or did the jewish people have nothing to do with him becoming president?
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The short answer is because the US does period. The more involved answer is that Israel is the ONLY reliable ally that the US has in the ME. Thus it is the only base which the US has to promote its agenda. If you question this look at the period 1948 to present and find any other ME country that has supported US policy in the ways Israel has. Take note of the fact that of the UK/France/Russia/China any of the major powers other than the US have no reliable base of operations in the ME. The US is the only one.
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I think this makes a lot of sense. Especially considering the huge geostrategic importance of the middle east. But, I would argue that Russia and China now have a very firm foothold there as well with Iran.
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Simple, the jew runs America. Nobody gets elected withiout his campaign donations. The jew's media will destroy him if he doesn't tow the line. The jew banks will lend him no more money if they don't like his attitude. They'll call in even his personal loans if he steps out of line. He'll be put in front of a jew judge on phony a tax rap if he doesn't see things their way.

The politician is a total slave to the jew.
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If the jewish people run the US, why do we have a president who appears to be more inclined to hear and appease their enemies? The narrative seems to be that Obama doesn't care for Israel and won't even take the time to meet with their prime minister. So which is it? Did jewish people place Obama in office for him to turn his back on Israel or did the jewish people have nothing to do with him becoming president?
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You have to understand, nothing is as simple as it looks. Things are just kept simple so simple Americans can understand them.

Here's an example of how things really work from the Vietnam era. John Cabot Lodge was appointed new US ambassador to Vietnam. His job was to get the current president out and replaced with somebody the US liked. The day he flew into Saigon to start his new job, a zealous South Vietnamese general loyal to the current Prez tried to shoot down his plane as it landed. The attack failed. Cabot Lodge heard all about it over the nextt few days but he didn't have the general killed. Lodge saw that this was a man of action, one he could use for his own purposes. Instead Lodge decided to make friends with this clown. Lodge wined and dined and talked this little asshole up and eventualy convinced him to overthrow the Prez himself. The little asshole did it, and a few months later Lodge had him overthrown himself and replaced with the man Lodge really wanted. Job completed.

Politics is a two faced, double dealing business where what a situation seems on the surface is rarely what it really is. Don't forget that.
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It is also why people disect and analyze the legitimacy of Israel and the people claiming it. You can't just take a broad generalization of what Israel is or is supposed to be. So the Bible says Israel. What exactly is that?? Is that based on the line of Abraham? Cause if so then the jewish people are screwed.

First of all, Arabic people are also the line of Abraham. Yet we genocide them relentlessly. And there have been many studies, one notably from John Hopkins University just last week, that shows (proves) over 98% of israeli jewish people HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHATSOEVER!!! They are from Southern Russia! It is a vetted fact that will stand in a court of law.

Besides all that, if the bible with its 86,000 known man made alterations told you to torture and rape every woman on earth would you do it?? Of course not because you'd see how evil that is. Then why would you support the state of israel when they have commited such continuing horrendous atrocities?? You THINK they are defending themselves. But that is where your brainwashing comes in. Its where the media tricks you. It is actually the israelis who attack THEM by continually expanding their territory by bulldozing palestinian homes And stealing land they call establishments.

If somebody moved into your home at gunpoint, you'd probably throw some rocks too. And rightly so. Israel is the bad guy in this. It makes me laugh when knee jerk manchurians blindly defend them because they have obviously failed to look at the vetted facts. They just believe what they want to believe with nothing real to back it up.

Remember, either you believe the bible 100% or nothing at all. Picking and chosing what suits your fancy makes you an asshole and a hypocrate.
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I'd really like to see the study you cited about 98% of israelis coming from russia. Can you give me a link?
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Poster is making reference to Ashkenazi jewish people. They make up the largest portions of Jewish people in the world. It has been reportted that by 1931 they made up 92% of jewish people world wide. Sephardic jewish people were once dominant but dwindled as a result of poor living conditions under Ottomon Rule. It has been postulated that the video of Ahmadinejean meeting with the Rabinic council is a collection of Sephardic jewish people.

Just Google Ashkenazi and you can learn vast amounts of data and make conclusions on your own.


As to your question,US-Israeli support initially came about from the prospect of a Soviet/Arab relationship that would limit access to Middle East Oil Reserves. As negative as it may seem, much of the trouble in the Mid-East has stemmed from political manipulation to keep individuals in power that allow the Western Industrial Nations access to natural resources, Oil in particular. Do a little research on the Shah, Iran and Iraq 20th century history and it is fairly easy to see.

Unfortunately, it is important to point out that the Balfour Declaration was in many ways racially motivated. The Jewish question about Ashkenazi jewish people, the polite way of saying how do we remove these people out from Europe had been in question since around 1750, culminating in the "Final Solution". Regardless of the true or false nature of the Holocaust, Israel was born either as planned or as a direct response.
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Simple, the jew runs America. Nobody gets elected withiout his campaign donations. The jew's media will destroy him if he doesn't tow the line. The jew banks will lend him no more money if they don't like his attitude. They'll call in even his personal loans if he steps out of line. He'll be put in front of a jew judge on phony a tax rap if he doesn't see things their way.

The politician is a total slave to the jew.
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If the jewish people run the US, why do we have a president who appears to be more inclined to hear and appease their enemies? The narrative seems to be that Obama doesn't care for Israel and won't even take the time to meet with their prime minister. So which is it? Did jewish people place Obama in office for him to turn his back on Israel or did the jewish people have nothing to do with him becoming president?
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You have to understand, nothing is as simple as it looks. Things are just kept simple so simple Americans can understand them.

Here's an example of how things really work from the Vietnam era. John Cabot Lodge was appointed new US ambassador to Vietnam. His job was to get the current president out and replaced with somebody the US liked. The day he flew into Saigon to start his new job, a zealous South Vietnamese general loyal to the current Prez tried to shoot down his plane as it landed. The attack failed. Cabot Lodge heard all about it over the nextt few days but he didn't have the general killed. Lodge saw that this was a man of action, one he could use for his own purposes. Instead Lodge decided to make friends with this clown. Lodge wined and dined and talked this little asshole up and eventualy convinced him to overthrow the Prez himself. The little asshole did it, and a few months later Lodge had him overthrown himself and replaced with the man Lodge really wanted. Job completed.

Politics is a two faced, double dealing business where what a situation seems on the surface is rarely what it really is. Don't forget that.
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Yes I agree. Rarely is something in politics as it seems on the surface.

If we start with the premise that jewish people control the world, then what would they gain by having a president in office who appears to turn his back on Israel? I don't really have any ideas, but it seems that it would having something to do with the Russia-China-Iran alliance.
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The short answer is because the US does period. The more involved answer is that Israel is the ONLY reliable ally that the US has in the ME. Thus it is the only base which the US has to promote its agenda. If you question this look at the period 1948 to present and find any other ME country that has supported US policy in the ways Israel has. Take note of the fact that of the UK/France/Russia/China any of the major powers other than the US have no reliable base of operations in the ME. The US is the only one.
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I think this makes a lot of sense. Especially considering the huge geostrategic importance of the middle east. But, I would argue that Russia and China now have a very firm foothold there as well with Iran.
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As regards Russia how reliable an ally is it that says as regards Iran the Israel's will handle the problem and cancels sales of one of the latest surface to air missle sales. Iran and Russia are nothing more than trade partners. As regards China she occupies tha same catagory if it weren't for the OIL China could care less. Neither of these countries has a major base of operations in Iran nor are any of them responsible counterparties. That is why what ever transpires in Iran will not promote WWIII.
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The Rothschilds created Zionism they created the Illuminati they founded the CFR United Nations and Founded the state of Israel in 1948. Real jewish people are not Zionist they despise it. This is why almost all Illuminati Members are Zionist they are masquerading as jewish people when they are working for the synagogue of Satan.

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Fuckin little dick j e w s ruin everything
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The Rothschilds created Zionism they created the Illuminati they founded the CFR United Nations and Founded the state of Israel in 1948. Real jewish people are not Zionist they despise it. This is why almost all Illuminati Members are Zionist they are masquerading as jewish people when they are working for the synagogue of Satan.

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Several good books to check out among others about who the Israelites of the Bible are and who the modern day jewish people really are:

Who is Esau-Edom by Charles Weisman. Weismanproductions.com has many good books that are worth the read to understand this highly, purposely misconstrued subject. Also Facts are Facts, a letter from Benjamin Freedman

Uncovering the Mystery of Your Hidden Inheritance by Robert Alan Balaicius

Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets by E. Raymond Capt

God's Covenant People Yesterday, Today, and Forever by Ted. R. Weiland

I have been sorting, rather wading through the lies that dampen reality for years and years now, and to understand the truth, or what is, compared to what is not, takes a burning desire to know which most people do not have. So called Christians who support Israel are known as Christian Zionists, and are some of the most spaced out from reality people on this planet. Actually most of the American population, I'm talking 98%+, is the most spaced out from reality population for various reasons, but mainly due to decades of brainwashing the likes of which no other country has been subjected, or aloud itself to be subjected to, through the media and television and hollywood and penetration of the public school system with blatant twisting of historical facts. The people who comment on this site and a few others who understand this are part of a very small minority, and would be and are ridiculed and mocked for trying to relay the truth to their peers and loved ones. It's truly sad, but it's reality. If only reality could be like a movie, where the bad guy always gets caught in the end, and the hero gets the girl, and everybody

lives happily ever after. This is how most Americans, or Babylonians, see things, and they will soon get one rude awakening after another, as lie after lie that they have believed and helped perpetrate through their wanton ignorance comes back to bite them in the ass.
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Its not that the USA loves Israel so much.
It is that Israel's enemies are SO MUCH worse.
The people who hate Israel are the scum of the Earth.
So looking at both sides, America picks Israel.
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As an Israeli who objects the occupation and someone with minimum intelligent I want to set things clear : The US does not merely 'support' Israel's violations of human rights, the US encourages, sponsers and initiates most of these violations. It is naive to think that a small country could dictate anything to the US. The fact is that US uses Israel as the 'bad cop' in the region, by this preserving its good diplomatic ties and allow Israel become the villain. The US has economic and military aspirations which it achieves through the acts of Israel. The Jewish lobby in the US government cares about US interests and wishes the keep Israel as an 'American colony', rather than 'drifting away' and becoming, god forbid, middle eastern.

I am personally involved in attempts to make the Israelis aware that by adopting this American colonialist standpoint we are only hurting our own prospect of assimilating in the Middle East and gaining true security.
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Reason becomes clearer every day.
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I'm no expert on US-Israel relations, so maybe someone on here can give me some answers. I have lately been wondering why the US and Israel have been virtually synonymous in the eyes of those who love and hate these countries. Is Israel essentially a satellite state of the US or is the US a satellite state of Israel? The whole thing is very confusing.

In fact, I have recently asked a handful of people I know why the US supports Israel and here are the answers I got:

- jewish people control the world
- The jewish people helped us win WWII since we were able to scoop up
so many scientists fleeing Germany and we, as a country,
feel obligated to help them.
- The Bible says that Christians must help defend Israel and
so, as a predominately Christian nation that is what we
must do

I know that a lot of people on this site probably believe in a Zionist conspiracy. But if that is true, does it not seem insanely coincidental that the Bible demands that Israel be protected? I mean, how convenient to not only control the world but also to have a Holy Book that demands your protection.

I am honestly very confused here...please enlighten me.
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Very basically it is because of this:

Jewish people have lived in the Holy land continuously since antiquity.

Before Israel became independent the Jewish people that lived there did in fact purchase the land they lived on.

Now I'm not going to go into the politics involved in the partitioning and resulting independence, but Israel is very small, smaller than the State of Delaware. Out of millions of square miles that make up the ME.

Considering the history of the area THEY have just as much right to have an independent country there as anybody else.

JORDAN, which is MUCH larger than Israel was meant for the so-called Palestinians.

So as far as I'm concerned the Israeli's are in the right.

Also one in five Israeli's are ARABS. Most are Muslim.

So if we help Israel we are also helping ARAB MUSLIMS that live there.

The so-called Palestinian refuges were ABANDONED by the five Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. They were told that if they threw in with the Arabs in the fight against the newly formed Israel that they would be given not only their land back but also some from the Jewish people pushed into the sea.

They have been USED as political scapegoats by the Arab countries EVER SINCE. They have been DENIED entry or citizenship in THOSE Arab countries ever since.

The so-called Palestinians have throughout this mess been offered citizenship in Israel if they sign a loyalty oath.

If people like YOU would do a little research from sources that aren't blatantly anti-semetic you would KNOW this.

Those one in five Israeli's that are Arab live a FAR BETTER life than the majority of Arabs in the ME.

Just saying.
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I'm no expert on US-Israel relations, so maybe someone on here can give me some answers. I have lately been wondering why the US and Israel have been virtually synonymous in the eyes of those who love and hate these countries. Is Israel essentially a satellite state of the US or is the US a satellite state of Israel? The whole thing is very confusing.

In fact, I have recently asked a handful of people I know why the US supports Israel and here are the answers I got:

- jewish people control the world
- The jewish people helped us win WWII since we were able to scoop up
so many scientists fleeing Germany and we, as a country,
feel obligated to help them.
- The Bible says that Christians must help defend Israel and
so, as a predominately Christian nation that is what we
must do

I know that a lot of people on this site probably believe in a Zionist conspiracy. But if that is true, does it not seem insanely coincidental that the Bible demands that Israel be protected? I mean, how convenient to not only control the world but also to have a Holy Book that demands your protection.

I am honestly very confused here...please enlighten me.
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Very basically it is because of this:

Jewish people have lived in the Holy land continuously since antiquity.

Before Israel became independent the Jewish people that lived there did in fact purchase the land they lived on.

Now I'm not going to go into the politics involved in the partitioning and resulting independence, but Israel is very small, smaller than the State of Delaware. Out of millions of square miles that make up the ME.

Considering the history of the area THEY have just as much right to have an independent country there as anybody else.

JORDAN, which is MUCH larger than Israel was meant for the so-called Palestinians.

So as far as I'm concerned the Israeli's are in the right.

Also one in five Israeli's are ARABS. Most are Muslim.

So if we help Israel we are also helping ARAB MUSLIMS that live there.

The so-called Palestinian refuges were ABANDONED by the five Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. They were told that if they threw in with the Arabs in the fight against the newly formed Israel that they would be given not only their land back but also some from the Jewish people pushed into the sea.

They have been USED as political scapegoats by the Arab countries EVER SINCE. They have been DENIED entry or citizenship in THOSE Arab countries ever since.

The so-called Palestinians have throughout this mess been offered citizenship in Israel if they sign a loyalty oath.

If people like YOU would do a little research from sources that aren't blatantly anti-semetic you would KNOW this.

Those one in five Israeli's that are Arab live a FAR BETTER life than the majority of Arabs in the ME.

Just saying.
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Noope that has nothing to do with it.


• Zionism, not Jewish but Jesuit

1517, All over Europe the Pope was called The AntiChrist. This prophetic teaching (historicist) was playing havoc with the Roman Church. Millions were escaping and obeying the Lord's command to "come out of her" (Rev. 18:4).

The first Jesuit Superior General Ignatius of Loyola commissioned one of his Jesuits named Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) to write an opposing view. He wrote a 500 page commentary on the Book of Revelation. The main premise of his commentary was that:

(1) Antichrist was one man.. not a empire.
(2) He would be an atheist or infidel.
(3) He would not be revealed until 7 years before the end of time.
(4) He would sit in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and make a covenant with the jewish people.
(5) He would call himself God etc., etc.
(6) The Christians were hindering his appearance but they would be "caught up" raptured to Heaven before his appearance -- the "Left Behind" madness!!

This became the official Roman Catholic position on Antichrist. This new idea (futurism) very conveniently shifted the focus from the Papacy to some fanciful individual way off in the distant future. John Nelson Darby became its main proponent in the English speaking world.

In order to make this "prophecy" come true jewish people had to somehow get back to Palestine.

The mighty nation of ancient Israel perished by the Roman sword in 70 A.D., in exact fulfillment of the words of Jesus The Temple was leveled to the ground and not one stone was left upon another that was not thrown down.

Zionism was realized after WW I with the British Conquest of Palestine. Still, most of the jewish people were not interested in going there. After all, most of them were living comfortably in Germany and they had no interest in helping Ribera fulfill his futurism.

Hitler and WW II changed all that. In 1948, the State of Israel was declared and the survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere to go but to Palestine.


[link to www.reformation.org]

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simple - you can't get elected in the US without the support of the media (to befuddle the ignorant masses)....who owns 85% of the media? cool2
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israel is part of the never ending milking war machine

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I'm no expert on US-Israel relations, so maybe someone on here can give me some answers. I have lately been wondering why the US and Israel have been virtually synonymous in the eyes of those who love and hate these countries. Is Israel essentially a satellite state of the US or is the US a satellite state of Israel? The whole thing is very confusing.

In fact, I have recently asked a handful of people I know why the US supports Israel and here are the answers I got:

- jewish people control the world
- The jewish people helped us win WWII since we were able to scoop up
so many scientists fleeing Germany and we, as a country,
feel obligated to help them.
- The Bible says that Christians must help defend Israel and
so, as a predominately Christian nation that is what we
must do

I know that a lot of people on this site probably believe in a Zionist conspiracy. But if that is true, does it not seem insanely coincidental that the Bible demands that Israel be protected? I mean, how convenient to not only control the world but also to have a Holy Book that demands your protection.

I am honestly very confused here...please enlighten me.
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israel is part of the never ending milking war machine

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I'm no expert on US-Israel relations, so maybe someone on here can give me some answers. I have lately been wondering why the US and Israel have been virtually synonymous in the eyes of those who love and hate these countries. Is Israel essentially a satellite state of the US or is the US a satellite state of Israel? The whole thing is very confusing.

In fact, I have recently asked a handful of people I know why the US supports Israel and here are the answers I got:

- jewish people control the world
- The jewish people helped us win WWII since we were able to scoop up
so many scientists fleeing Germany and we, as a country,
feel obligated to help them.
- The Bible says that Christians must help defend Israel and
so, as a predominately Christian nation that is what we
must do

I know that a lot of people on this site probably believe in a Zionist conspiracy. But if that is true, does it not seem insanely coincidental that the Bible demands that Israel be protected? I mean, how convenient to not only control the world but also to have a Holy Book that demands your protection.

I am honestly very confused here...please enlighten me.
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