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BASICS of RELIGION ...

 
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BASICS of RELIGION ...
These things do not belong to any one religious group.


Therefore they apply to Christians, jewish people and Muslims.

Ark of the Covenant

Ark =

1 a : a boat or ship held to resemble that in which Noah and his family were preserved from the Flood

b : something that affords protection and safety

2 a : the sacred chest representing to the Hebrews the presence of God among them

b : a repository traditionally in or against the wall of a synagogue for the scrolls of the Torah


Covenant
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1 a usually formal, solemn, and binding agreement : compact

2 a : a written agreement or promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action

b : the common-law action to recover damages for breach of such a contract



Clearly the Ark of the Covenant represents a binding agreement between God and those who serve him.

It is a promise of protection in exchange for fulfilling Gods will.

There may have been a box but really this is irrelevant. It was simply a symbol. Somewhere to keep religious texts in. Somewhere to keep the binding agreement.

Apparently it created electricity and was a way of speaking to God as it was a transmitter. (according to Raiders of the Lost Ark) All of that is irrelevant, the main meaning is a binding agreement.

This agreement was apparently between early Hebrews and God.

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The Ark of the Covenant is probably the most fundamental thing in Religion. The Corner Stone even.

So What was the agreement?

What are the terms of the contract?

Clearly it is a "I will give you this, if you give me that" type of agreement.

Christians think ...

If they worship Jesus "God's only begotten son" they will be given eternal life.

Muslims think ...

"There is Jihad in Islam - What's the most beloved and favourite thing to Allah - Jihad in the name of Allah."

The Jewish think ...

Everyone other then the Jewish are simply cattle and they should rule over the cattle.

So clearly there is some disagreement over what the terms of the contract are. What does the old testament say the agreement is about? ...

God took the first born of the Egyptians, but he gave a pass to those who killed and ate a lamb.

Exodus 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:

So clearly a "lamb" is very significant!

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

We see the “Lamb” is a substitute for a human, a symbolic offering.

Then we see the Lamb is indeed a man, the Son of God who is also the Son of Man.

Gospel of John -- The Lamb is announced by John the Baptist
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

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Only Christianity is the way. Sorry. Seek the Father & Son.
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Re: BASICS of RELIGION ...
christ can suck my dick.
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Re: BASICS of RELIGION ...
These are only the basics of the bad religions. There are some fairly decent ones that none of these things apply to.
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Re: BASICS of RELIGION ...
Let's go back to the old testament.

What is the agreement spoken of there?


What is it that God says he wants in exchange for his end of the bargain?

The agreement goes like this ...

"I will make Earth like Heaven and I will give you a thousand years of life in exchange for ...."


In exchange for what?

It's said ...

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (thousand years in Revelations)

Well that seems simple doesn't it? No wonder there are so many dizzy Christians around. "Look God's son came, we placed him on the cross and killed him and now God will give us ever lasting life, as long as we believe this."

Are people really this stupid?

Do you really believe a superior being would come to Earth and say "Look here, I send you my son to spread my message, go ahead and kill him and then celebrate that and I will give you Heaven!"

Don't be so bloody stupid, that is not the agreement.

So what is ...

Ezekiel 20:33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

Ezekiel 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Ezekiel 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

Ezekiel 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

Ezekiel 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

Ezekiel 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

Ezekiel 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.



^^^ there now doesn't that sound more like it?

After all God has killed millions, so is it believable that suddenly became a pussy whimp? I don't think so.

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Ezekiel 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

...

Ezekiel 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

Ezekiel 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.


^^^ So what offering?

What are the first fruits?

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Jesus was said to be the lamb and when he died what did he become?

1 Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.


FIRSTFRUITS are people. A lamb is a symbol sacrifice of a human and Jesus was the first or the seed type.

He did not really live two thousand years ago but long before.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

So God is wanting as an offering, the seed of his own which has stayed true to type.
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Lamplight, you will forever be stuck in that labyrinth.

I commend you for truth seeking, but you're looking in the wrong places. Find the truth in the books that were burned. Leave your body and search the astral planes for knowledge. It is there.
I am a disciple of my mind.
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Just as the sheep were divided, so are humans

Genesis 30:33 So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me.

Some form the crop or the vine and others are the Shepherds.

Can you guess who is who?

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Lamplight, you will forever be stuck in that labyrinth.

I commend you for truth seeking, but you're looking in the wrong places. Find the truth in the books that were burned. Leave your body and search the astral planes for knowledge. It is there.
 Quoting: flashlight


Let me guess ... you're a silly blind christian?
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Lamplight, you will forever be stuck in that labyrinth.

I commend you for truth seeking, but you're looking in the wrong places. Find the truth in the books that were burned. Leave your body and search the astral planes for knowledge. It is there.
 Quoting: flashlight


Let me guess ... you're a silly blind christian?
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 Quoting: Lamplite


Yes, Chrisitans are known to astral project for sure.

putin

Evidently you know nothing about Christianity. Look at what I represent: I am a disciple of my mind, astral project, burned books in reference to library of alexandria, dead sea scrolls, nag hammadi, etc.

What a moron. The fact that you can't even recognize the most basic of nuances of what a Christian is and then apply that label to me is absurd. Yet you're able to "figure out" all this other dumb shit that you talk about but know nothing about is equally amusing.

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These things do not belong to any one religious group.


Therefore they apply to Christians, jewish people and Muslims.

Ark of the Covenant

Ark =

1 a : a boat or ship held to resemble that in which Noah and his family were preserved from the Flood

b : something that affords protection and safety

2 a : the sacred chest representing to the Hebrews the presence of God among them

b : a repository traditionally in or against the wall of a synagogue for the scrolls of the Torah


Covenant
=

1 a usually formal, solemn, and binding agreement : compact

2 a : a written agreement or promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action

b : the common-law action to recover damages for breach of such a contract



Clearly the Ark of the Covenant represents a binding agreement between God and those who serve him.

It is a promise of protection in exchange for fulfilling Gods will.

There may have been a box but really this is irrelevant. It was simply a symbol. Somewhere to keep religious texts in. Somewhere to keep the binding agreement.

Apparently it created electricity and was a way of speaking to God as it was a transmitter. (according to Raiders of the Lost Ark) All of that is irrelevant, the main meaning is a binding agreement.

This agreement was apparently between early Hebrews and God.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


>Apparently it created electricity and was a way of speaking to God as it was a transmitter. (according to Raiders of the Lost Ark) All of that is irrelevant, the main meaning is a binding agreement.

the 'ark of the convenant' and the 'ark' of Noah, are possibly, more than likely, NOT the same word in hebrew.

1 star for effort.. (just kidding about the 1 star)
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The basics of religion...

1) millions or billions of dumb fucks who cannot think for themselves
2) one person who is a businessman and can think for himself...

bibletards....aresheeplebah
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Just as the sheep were divided, so are humans
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You've been living in New Zealand too long.
If you travel to another country you'd find that, maybe, not everyone is a two legged or four legged sheep.
Humans are NOT the same as sheep so all that Good Shepherd, Black Sheep, shofar blowing,pastoral,crozier carrying,woolly headed rubbish is irrelevant.
Unless.
Oh wait...sheep
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The basics of religion...

1) millions or billions of dumb fucks who cannot think for themselves
2) one person who is a businessman and can think for himself...

bibletards....aresheeplebah
 Quoting: Coolman 22305285


Mostly I agree with you.

However I don't think there is nothing to religion.

What I think is ... it's the elite's book of secrets hidden in plain sight, however mostly people can't read it for shit.

They decide they are good and they will be saved and wha who ... end of story.
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The basics of religion...

1) millions or billions of dumb fucks who cannot think for themselves
2) one person who is a businessman and can think for himself...

bibletards....aresheeplebah
 Quoting: Coolman 22305285


Mostly I agree with you.

However I don't think there is nothing to religion.

What I think is ... it's the elite's book of secrets hidden in plain sight, however mostly people can't read it for shit.

They decide they are good and they will be saved and wha who ... end of story.
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Lamplight I have come to the conclusion that you're an idiot. You can't even discern a Christian from someone who's not. All of your conclusions are shortsighted and are bunk.

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Just as the sheep were divided, so are humans
 Quoting: Lamplite

You've been living in New Zealand too long.
If you travel to another country you'd find that, maybe, not everyone is a two legged or four legged sheep.
Humans are NOT the same as sheep so all that Good Shepherd, Black Sheep, shofar blowing,pastoral,crozier carrying,woolly headed rubbish is irrelevant.
Unless.
Oh wait...sheep
 Quoting: Key is my shepherd 18434332


Oh my God ... you did not really say that John Key our prime minister a JEWISH man, is your shepherd?

Do you not know what he said at the memorial of all the dead who died in the Christchurch quakes? He quoted this ...

Paul's letter to the Romans


Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.



Wake up you idiot!
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Lamplight I have come to the conclusion that you're an idiot. You can't even discern a Christian from someone who's not. All of your conclusions are shortsighted and are bunk.


 Quoting: flashlight



I tell you what I can discern ... a shill ... a troll.

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Lamplight I have come to the conclusion that you're an idiot. You can't even discern a Christian from someone who's not. All of your conclusions are shortsighted and are bunk.


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I tell you what I can discern ... a shill ... a troll.

cupofjoe
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You have nothing to back this assertion up with. You project onto me what you are. Any further communication is useless with you.
I am a disciple of my mind.
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You have nothing to back this assertion up with. You project onto me what you are. Any further communication is useless with you.
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You're an abusive little twit.

I have no time for you.


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