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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 23715010 United States 09/22/2012 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tell me I am wrong again!you all lie against the word of the father and then you contend with me because I show you your follies in the book 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 23715010 United States 09/22/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some churches do lie. But not about if Jesus was good looking or not. You still spewing this garbage? hahahahahaha. Your threads are silly. Quoting: Medic you know its deeper than that you are idol worshippers and create images out of your imagination..it is contradicting the word written.You LAUGH BECAUSE THE WORD IS IN YOUR FACE AND YOU HAVE NO DEFENSE FOR YOUR REBELLION Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 09/22/2012 11:33 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 23715010 United States 09/23/2012 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 25016307 United States 10/05/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8764951 United States 10/05/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The image you see as "jesus" is actually Cesare Borgia...the son of Pope Alexander VI Long story short - Jesus was a Palestinian aka "Muslim looking" - the church was fighting the crusades at the time as the Muslims were taking over much of what the church had controlled. The problem was getting the soldiers to fight people that looked like jesus - so they simply changed the image of jesus to look more European using Cesare's face. Therefore disassociating the white Europeans from the middle easterners they had to go kill. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24924823 United States 10/05/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The image you see as "jesus" is actually Cesare Borgia...the son of Pope Alexander VI Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8764951 Long story short - Jesus was a Palestinian aka "Muslim looking" - the church was fighting the crusades at the time as the Muslims were taking over much of what the church had controlled. The problem was getting the soldiers to fight people that looked like jesus - so they simply changed the image of jesus to look more European using Cesare's face. Therefore disassociating the white Europeans from the middle easterners they had to go kill. Nope, the Muslim Arab hordes didn't break out of Arabia until around 700, and genocided all the indigineous people of the Middle East. Also numb nuts, maybe if you actually cracked open a history book, you would realize Palestine is an intentionally made up province name for Judea by the Romans, after the Romans wiped out all the Jews from that area 50 years after the times of Jesus, and wanted to remove all mention of Jews and Judea too. |
dschis1000 User ID: 19590683 United States 10/05/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some churches do lie. But not about if Jesus was good looking or not. You still spewing this garbage? hahahahahaha. Your threads are silly. Quoting: Medic you know its deeper than that you are idol worshippers and create images out of your imagination..it is contradicting the word written.You LAUGH BECAUSE THE WORD IS IN YOUR FACE AND YOU HAVE NO DEFENSE FOR YOUR REBELLION You're right! We shouldn't be creating images. I agree it's directly disobeying the commandment. We are to worship the Father in spirit and truth. Besides he wouldn't look like his human form now would he? Last Edited by dschis1000 on 10/05/2012 08:58 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25034106 Australia 10/05/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dude, get a clue, the purpose for any religious writings is to lie to gain advantage. it worked for the best part of two thousand years. the christian religions contains more hypocrisy and lies than most simply because men gained most from it and rode the scam the hardest. it isn't much more than the last bastion on earth for pedophiles these days. |
AtsuiPanda User ID: 16510251 United States 10/05/2012 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE book of ISAIAH TOLD US PLAINLY MESSIAH HAD NO BEAUTY THAT ANYONE WILL DESIRE..HE WAS NOT A GOOD LOOKING MAN BECAUSE THE FATHER NEVER WANTED PEOPLE TO BE DRAWN TO HIS STATURE AND LOOKS! OOUUUHHH! Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar So all these CAUCASION christian INSTITUTIONS AND LATELY AFRO AMERICAN CHURCHES promoting this lie in paintings and pictures I laugh all the time such idolatry and stupidity Is 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. :85775: These are the examples of little lies that christians tell and contradict the word of God Is 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. rofl at the black jesus.. :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616 Spain 10/05/2012 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The image you see as "jesus" is actually Cesare Borgia...the son of Pope Alexander VI Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8764951 Long story short - Jesus was a Palestinian aka "Muslim looking" - the church was fighting the crusades at the time as the Muslims were taking over much of what the church had controlled. The problem was getting the soldiers to fight people that looked like jesus - so they simply changed the image of jesus to look more European using Cesare's face. Therefore disassociating the white Europeans from the middle easterners they had to go kill. Nope, the Muslim Arab hordes didn't break out of Arabia until around 700, and genocided all the indigineous people of the Middle East. Also numb nuts, maybe if you actually cracked open a history book, you would realize Palestine is an intentionally made up province name for Judea by the Romans, after the Romans wiped out all the Jews from that area 50 years after the times of Jesus, and wanted to remove all mention of Jews and Judea too. So what Israel was also a made up name for a kingdom which some megalomaniac Hebrews created alleging some deity told them to. Before that the land was called Canaan. |
AtsuiPanda User ID: 16510251 United States 10/05/2012 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is worse is Christians idolize the Bible itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Idolatry is idolatry. Yea isnt it a sin to worship ANYTHING or ANYONE except god? and yet thats what christianity is... :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
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sandpiper User ID: 7665391 United States 10/05/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I do not know what HE may look like, but I do not care. I love HIM and thank HIM for giving HIS life to save me. Remember everything is beautiful, in its on way. If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE. |
Ohwow! User ID: 16023386 United States 10/05/2012 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no images allowed. First commandment. No biggy, I know He doesn't look like me and I suspect He looks a whole lot like the middle eastern Arabs who have not invaded other lands. Who is to say, who cares? Looks don't carry the day, His plan of salvation is the thing that delivers, not blue eyes or half breeds - which describes most of the world today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24924823 United States 10/05/2012 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The image you see as "jesus" is actually Cesare Borgia...the son of Pope Alexander VI Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8764951 Long story short - Jesus was a Palestinian aka "Muslim looking" - the church was fighting the crusades at the time as the Muslims were taking over much of what the church had controlled. The problem was getting the soldiers to fight people that looked like jesus - so they simply changed the image of jesus to look more European using Cesare's face. Therefore disassociating the white Europeans from the middle easterners they had to go kill. Nope, the Muslim Arab hordes didn't break out of Arabia until around 700, and genocided all the indigineous people of the Middle East. Also numb nuts, maybe if you actually cracked open a history book, you would realize Palestine is an intentionally made up province name for Judea by the Romans, after the Romans wiped out all the Jews from that area 50 years after the times of Jesus, and wanted to remove all mention of Jews and Judea too. So what Israel was also a made up name for a kingdom which some megalomaniac Hebrews created alleging some deity told them to. Before that the land was called Canaan. All fine and good, but numb nutz before said Jesus was a Palestinian. Its like saying Montezuma was Mexican or Ivan the Great was a Soviet. Thats just dumb. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17119454 United States 10/05/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE book of ISAIAH TOLD US PLAINLY MESSIAH HAD NO BEAUTY THAT ANYONE WILL DESIRE..HE WAS NOT A GOOD LOOKING MAN BECAUSE THE FATHER NEVER WANTED PEOPLE TO BE DRAWN TO HIS STATURE AND LOOKS! OOUUUHHH! Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar No it did not. According to your own quote the book reads: He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. Anything else is your own conjecture. Which is exactly what's wrong with religion & scripture: they're vague, subject to translation, subject to interpretation, but not subjected to scrutiny. The book of Isaiah is not about the end of the world or anything rational or tangible. It's about multitheaded dragons, horns, crowns, trumpets & magic & spells, nonsense! Make believe nonsense . Substituting fictional creatures & events with actual ones does not make a lie real. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616 Spain 10/05/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The image you see as "jesus" is actually Cesare Borgia...the son of Pope Alexander VI Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8764951 Long story short - Jesus was a Palestinian aka "Muslim looking" - the church was fighting the crusades at the time as the Muslims were taking over much of what the church had controlled. The problem was getting the soldiers to fight people that looked like jesus - so they simply changed the image of jesus to look more European using Cesare's face. Therefore disassociating the white Europeans from the middle easterners they had to go kill. Nope, the Muslim Arab hordes didn't break out of Arabia until around 700, and genocided all the indigineous people of the Middle East. Also numb nuts, maybe if you actually cracked open a history book, you would realize Palestine is an intentionally made up province name for Judea by the Romans, after the Romans wiped out all the Jews from that area 50 years after the times of Jesus, and wanted to remove all mention of Jews and Judea too. So what Israel was also a made up name for a kingdom which some megalomaniac Hebrews created alleging some deity told them to. Before that the land was called Canaan. All fine and good, but numb nutz before said Jesus was a Palestinian. Its like saying Montezuma was Mexican or Ivan the Great was a Soviet. Thats just dumb. Jesus was a Judean, yes. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 25060533 United States 10/06/2012 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The image you see as "jesus" is actually Cesare Borgia...the son of Pope Alexander VI Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8764951 Long story short - Jesus was a Palestinian aka "Muslim looking" - the church was fighting the crusades at the time as the Muslims were taking over much of what the church had controlled. The problem was getting the soldiers to fight people that looked like jesus - so they simply changed the image of jesus to look more European using Cesare's face. Therefore disassociating the white Europeans from the middle easterners they had to go kill. exactly so thank you 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 25060533 United States 10/06/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dude, get a clue, the purpose for any religious writings is to lie to gain advantage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25034106 it worked for the best part of two thousand years. the christian religions contains more hypocrisy and lies than most simply because men gained most from it and rode the scam the hardest. it isn't much more than the last bastion on earth for pedophiles these days. Agreed and I wish those who following this anti christ movement go back to the word and reexamine the facts and depart from her 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 25060533 United States 10/06/2012 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is worse is Christians idolize the Bible itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Idolatry is idolatry. Not all christains are at fault but the structure and the head organizations are the culprits who spin the words around to promote their pagan culture 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24230148 United States 10/06/2012 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE book of ISAIAH TOLD US PLAINLY MESSIAH HAD NO BEAUTY THAT ANYONE WILL DESIRE..HE WAS NOT A GOOD LOOKING MAN BECAUSE THE FATHER NEVER WANTED PEOPLE TO BE DRAWN TO HIS STATURE AND LOOKS! OOUUUHHH! Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar So all these CAUCASION christian INSTITUTIONS AND LATELY AFRO AMERICAN CHURCHES promoting this lie in paintings and pictures I laugh all the time such idolatry and stupidity Is 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. :qaqqw: :FDA::85775::bj456::bjesus01::FDA::bj654::bjesus02: These are the examples of little lies that christians tell and contradict the word of God Is 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. rofl at the black jesus.. Yes. The Israeli's have never allowed blacks into Israel, this is true even until today. Yet Jesus was supposedly "black" and was hanging around the temple even as a child? "Black Jesus" is actually named Jeebus and is not the same. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1768779 United Kingdom 10/06/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dude, get a clue, the purpose for any religious writings is to lie to gain advantage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25034106 it worked for the best part of two thousand years. the christian religions contains more hypocrisy and lies than most simply because men gained most from it and rode the scam the hardest. it isn't much more than the last bastion on earth for pedophiles these days. Christ Jesus has ruled the western lands of Christendom for nearly 1,700 years and it was this rule that brought relative peace to the world. The evil and veritable bloodbath going on for the past 100 years is merely a reflection of the reemergence of paganism within Babylon. It is the rise of the religions of the Pre-flood days which are destroying the saints, breaking the holy power. And yes, as the descendants of Christians throughout the western lands succumb to the love of sin, blood and violence and consequently shun the righteous behaviour demanded by Our Saviour, the darkness of the East will descend in full force. This world will eventually reject the faith of God in favor of Satan's lies, deception and evil and at that time, the world and all in it will be destroyed. Those past 2,000 years have occurred to effect salvation. Unfortunately, you have no understanding of this. As I watch women today walk into the abortion clinic, obvlious to it being nothing but child sacrifice in a new form, I know that most are blinded to the coming destruction because they know not how wicked we truly have become. Our children suck down violent images everyday, and we are producing the killers of tomorrow. The end is but a short time away. The last few are being saved. |
eleyna2012 User ID: 24262261 United States 10/06/2012 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay - I'll bite. Here you go OP - the verse as you posted Is 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. A more accurate ENGLISH translation For he shall grow upºº beforeº him as a tender plant,º and as a rootº out of a dryº ground:ºº he hath noº formº norº comeliness;º and when we shall seeºº him, [there is] noº beautyº that we should desireºº him. "form" - Strongs H8389 - means shape, form, outline, figure, appearance "comeliness" Strongs H1926 from H1921 = magnificence, that is, ornament or splendor:—beauty, comeliness, excellency, glorious, glory, goodly, honour, majesty. "Beauty" Strongs 4758 = 1a) sight, phenomenon, spectacle, appearance, vision 1b) what is seen 1c) a vision (supernatural) 1d) sight, vision (power of seeing) So, what this verse is saying - do not EXPECT the messiah to look like a GLORIOUS SUPERNATURAL BEING - instead, He will look like the rest of us. Having said that, in Luke 9:27-36 Yahushua (Jesus) did allow his disciples a glimpse of his TRUE form, or GLORIOUS appearance - Clearly, this verse has NOTHING to do with human PERCEPTION of physical beauty. If you are REALLY after truth - you must get past the English language. Much Love OP. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 25060533 United States 10/06/2012 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay - I'll bite. Quoting: eleyna2012 Here you go OP - the verse as you posted Is 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. A more accurate ENGLISH translation For he shall grow upºº beforeº him as a tender plant,º and as a rootº out of a dryº ground:ºº he hath noº formº norº comeliness;º and when we shall seeºº him, [there is] noº beautyº that we should desireºº him. "form" - Strongs H8389 - means shape, form, outline, figure, appearance "comeliness" Strongs H1926 from H1921 = magnificence, that is, ornament or splendor:—beauty, comeliness, excellency, glorious, glory, goodly, honour, majesty. "Beauty" Strongs 4758 = 1a) sight, phenomenon, spectacle, appearance, vision 1b) what is seen 1c) a vision (supernatural) 1d) sight, vision (power of seeing) So, what this verse is saying - do not EXPECT the messiah to look like a GLORIOUS SUPERNATURAL BEING - instead, He will look like the rest of us. Having said that, in Luke 9:27-36 Yahushua (Jesus) did allow his disciples a glimpse of his TRUE form, or GLORIOUS appearance - Clearly, this verse has NOTHING to do with human PERCEPTION of physical beauty. If you are REALLY after truth - you must get past the English language. Much Love OP. the underlying fact in all this is that you created an image that is idolatry and also a false representation 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |