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Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved

 
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Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
Problem Traced to Unique Combination of Pressure Garment and Cold Weather Survival Gear Worn by Pilots in AK and VA

The Air Force thinks it's solved the years-long mystery of why F-22 pilots have suffered apparent hypoxia-like system's aboard the world's most advanced jet fighter.

And the answer is so insanely simple, some Congressmen simply don't believe it.

According to Congressional Testimony by NASA and Air Force experts earlier this month, the problem lies with an inflatable combat vest that was worn -- in a unique combination with rubberized cold-weather survival gear (needed for ejection over cold water) by pilots -- at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson here in Alaska, and also by pilots at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia.

The vest, when combined with the bulky cold weather exposure clothing worn by pilots at those two bases to help them survive exposure in an emergency, constricted the chest. Constricted lungs are very bad news for pilots during high-g manaeuvers, such as sharp turns. That's when pilots need a vital supply of oxygenated blood the most -- becuse it is during those maneuvers that blood rushes out of your brain and pools in your stomach and legs.

The clincher to solving the mystery was this. Air Force testing in ground centrifuges -- using the cold weather gear with the inflatable vests -- showed that pilots could not inhale the same volume of oxygen into their lungs, with the rubberized cold weather suits on, as they could without the cold-weather gear. And being able to breathe fully is vastly important when you're under high g-loading at high altitude.

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Re: Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
Dude, its on. dynamite
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So, 60 Minutes was wrong.
It wasn't the charcoal filters.
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I thought the plane was cutting off o2 to the pilots? What would that have to do with chest gear?

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09/23/2012 11:00 AM
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Oh well....more raptors to plunge into the ground soon.
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I'm a pilot and I call BS.

I bet the real reason was a Chinese-made valve in the system. Can't let that get out... ever.
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I'm a pilot and I call BS.

I bet the real reason was a Chinese-made valve in the system. Can't let that get out... ever.
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Me again. I say this because the serious incidents I read about involved a pilot just cruising along minding his own business. No high-G maneuvers were involved. Anyway, you don't breath into the chest when flying because of the tight shoulder straps - you breath into the diaphragm.
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I'm a pilot and I call BS.

I bet the real reason was a Chinese-made valve in the system. Can't let that get out... ever.
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agreed. I think they've solved the problem, but aren't going to tell us the real reason to avoid embarrassment.
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Its certainly possible, many police custody deaths are due to constricted breathing, especially under stress.

Or

They need the damn things in the air and have told the investigators to finish things up now...
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09/23/2012 11:41 AM
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they discovered breathing helps pilots fly the plane.
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Much thanks for another pin!!
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what a dud that plane was
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I'll believe with the next actual fighting mission, last year in Libya they used F-15s
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they built a 100 billion dollar airplane and forgot to put
the oxygen plumbing in?
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that sounds like the Hubble Space Telescope mirror that
was ground with a focal point at the lady's apartment on
the other side of the road!

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bump
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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their still trying to cover up the BCI super soldier programs and hoping we go back to sleep..good luck with that gentlemen,we are loao...the first story of bad electronic chips was a hint..we not badwhistle..they might want to change the number 22 on them for that's BB ,an address I'm familiar with as they are too..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/23/2012 01:31 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
the Patriot Missile Installations we gave Israel had
bad computer clocks in them and they couldn't shoot
down one single one of Saddam's scuds.
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if we expect to win WW3 i certainly hope we find
some decent engineers to put in all these defense contracting plants.
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thanks for looking into that...
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Re: Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
the Patriot Missile Installations we gave Israel had
bad computer clocks in them and they couldn't shoot
down one single one of Saddam's scuds.
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That was a long time ago....
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09/23/2012 01:42 PM
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Re: Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
I'm a pilot and I call BS.

I bet the real reason was a Chinese-made valve in the system. Can't let that get out... ever.
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You may be right but frankly I don't care what the issue was as long as it's fixed and the F22 fleet is back in action !

The F22 is a wonderful piece of engineering and it would of been a great loss to the USAF if they were still grounded when war with Iran and perhaps China started !
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Re: Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
I'm a pilot and I call BS.

I bet the real reason was a Chinese-made valve in the system. Can't let that get out... ever.
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You may be right but frankly I don't care what the issue was as long as it's fixed and the F22 fleet is back in action !

The F22 is a wonderful piece of engineering and it would of been a great loss to the USAF if they were still grounded when war with Iran and perhaps China started !
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yeh. and we can't fire the dickwad engineers who screwed-up
because they're all we got....
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Trying to give a damn... nope. Sounds like a personal problem.
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yeh. and we can't fire the dickwad engineers who screwed-up
because they're all we got....
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Lockheed Martin has some of the best engineers on the planet but they are human too and humans make mistakes !

Overall I thing the engineers did a great job, the F22 is by far the best fighter out there...the only thing that comes close is the SU-47 !
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Dude, its on. dynamite
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Too late to get these planes produced and ready for war unfortunately. I would assume this 'simple' solution has been buried for years.

Hope F16s are good enough.
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yeh. and we can't fire the dickwad engineers who screwed-up
because they're all we got....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498925


Lockheed Martin has some of the best engineers on the planet but they are human too and humans make mistakes !

Overall I thing the engineers did a great job, the F22 is by far the best fighter out there...the only thing that comes close is the SU-47 !
 Quoting: subzero86


i'm just saying they should tighten up there act a little bit,
and do less junk food and more methamphetamine.
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i'm just saying they should tighten up there act a little bit,
and do less junk food and more methamphetamine.
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cruise
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And here come the drones.
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Re: Air Force Says F-22 Oxygen Problem is Solved
the Patriot Missile Installations we gave Israel had
bad computer clocks in them and they couldn't shoot
down one single one of Saddam's scuds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498925

bsflag
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the Patriot Missile Installations we gave Israel had
bad computer clocks in them and they couldn't shoot
down one single one of Saddam's scuds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498925

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787159


this must be the Raytheon P.R. guy.

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