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Obama Doesn't Fill 5,000-Seat Wisconsin Pavillion, National Media Claims 18,000 Crowd!

 
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Uhhhhh.....
If Obama were really doing so well, why would the media have to resort to such distortions? And why would he be in Wisconsin in the first place
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The contradiction was first noted by battlegroundwatch.com. Local media, including the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reported that Obama had addressed "supporters who filled the 5,000-seat BMO Harris Pavilion, along with thousands more who sat in bleachers and stood on the pavement beyond the protection of the roof, even as wind and rain lashed down in the latter moments of the near 30-minute speech."

The pavilion was not "filled"--a local reporter for Patch.com filmed empty seats in the bleachers at the side of the arena. Nevertheless, the Journal-Sentinal played it safe, putting attendance at roughly 5,000-plus, a small but respectable turnout.

That's not how national media covered it. Darren Samuelsohn of Politico reported that the president addressed "a crowd the Obama campaign estimated at 18,000 in a city park overlooking Lake Michigan" in an attempt to "lock up" Wisconsin.

Laura Meckler of the Wall Street Journal--whose news section, according to UCLA professor Tim Groseclose, is the most liberal of any major mainstream outlet--repeated the campaign's 18,000 claim without even revealing the source of the official-sounding estimate.

Both outlets described the location of the rally as a "park," without revealing the name of the arena itself, which would have given the game away.
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Million Man March Math making a comeback...
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The REAL Conspiracy Theory is how Openly-biased, the mostly run-by-gays US Media has become for Democrats, especially Obama.
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Uhhhhh.....
If Obama were really doing so well, why would the media have to resort to such distortions? And why would he be in Wisconsin in the first place
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The contradiction was first noted by battlegroundwatch.com. Local media, including the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reported that Obama had addressed "supporters who filled the 5,000-seat BMO Harris Pavilion, along with thousands more who sat in bleachers and stood on the pavement beyond the protection of the roof, even as wind and rain lashed down in the latter moments of the near 30-minute speech."

The pavilion was not "filled"--a local reporter for Patch.com filmed empty seats in the bleachers at the side of the arena. Nevertheless, the Journal-Sentinal played it safe, putting attendance at roughly 5,000-plus, a small but respectable turnout.

That's not how national media covered it. Darren Samuelsohn of Politico reported that the president addressed "a crowd the Obama campaign estimated at 18,000 in a city park overlooking Lake Michigan" in an attempt to "lock up" Wisconsin.

Laura Meckler of the Wall Street Journal--whose news section, according to UCLA professor Tim Groseclose, is the most liberal of any major mainstream outlet--repeated the campaign's 18,000 claim without even revealing the source of the official-sounding estimate.

Both outlets described the location of the rally as a "park," without revealing the name of the arena itself, which would have given the game away.
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One of the 10 Planks of Communism is...

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.

Been this way for years and only getting worse.

Good post OP!
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chief bozo The witch doctor is losing his mojo

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The election is already over, Obama will steal the election
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13158115


The REAL Conspiracy Theory is how Openly-biased, the mostly run-by-gays US Media has become for Democrats, especially Obama.
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^^^^^^^
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Honestly, Those who say they will vote for Obama just may not. I think we still have the I'm not a racist thing going on here while being polled.

With the economy, food prices, obamacare taxes coming soon and all the warring....I do not think people will pull the Obama lever.

If they even show up....His popularity is lower than the press lets on..

of course, he does do more big venue speeches than most presidents did.
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Honestly, Those who say they will vote for Obama just may not. I think we still have the I'm not a racist thing going on here while being polled.

With the economy, food prices, obamacare taxes coming soon and all the warring....I do not think people will pull the Obama lever.

If they even show up....His popularity is lower than the press lets on..

of course, he does do more big venue speeches than most presidents did.
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Great observation as I agree!

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Honestly, Those who say they will vote for Obama just may not. I think we still have the I'm not a racist thing going on here while being polled.

With the economy, food prices, obamacare taxes coming soon and all the warring....I do not think people will pull the Obama lever.

If they even show up....His popularity is lower than the press lets on..

of course, he does do more big venue speeches than most presidents did.
 Quoting: allegro


Great observation as I agree!

Goofy Thum
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I travel extensively...
I see people everywhere chomping at the bit to get rid of this abysmal failure.
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I was there. At least 15,000 people there. There were some seats empty on our side but that is because you could not get to them, the crowd was so large behind the seating area and if you did not have a special color tickets for seats you had to stand.
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I've noticed that there are a LOT less political signs in my neighborhood than there were in 2008. I think a lot of people don't want to catch shit from either side, so they leave the lawn blank. It's really interesting to me in my LIBERAL neighborhood, because in 08 it was Obamaland.
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Honestly, Those who say they will vote for Obama just may not. I think we still have the I'm not a racist thing going on here while being polled.

With the economy, food prices, obamacare taxes coming soon and all the warring....I do not think people will pull the Obama lever.

If they even show up....His popularity is lower than the press lets on..

of course, he does do more big venue speeches than most presidents did.
 Quoting: allegro


Great observation as I agree!

Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Jericho9


I travel extensively...
I see people everywhere chomping at the bit to get rid of this abysmal failure.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


That's IF we have an election AND it isn't rigged. The MSM WILL report whatever they are told to report.
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Honestly, Those who say they will vote for Obama just may not. I think we still have the I'm not a racist thing going on here while being polled.

With the economy, food prices, obamacare taxes coming soon and all the warring....I do not think people will pull the Obama lever.

If they even show up....His popularity is lower than the press lets on..

of course, he does do more big venue speeches than most presidents did.
 Quoting: allegro


Great observation as I agree!

Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Jericho9


I travel extensively...
I see people everywhere chomping at the bit to get rid of this abysmal failure.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


That's IF we have an election AND it isn't rigged. The MSM WILL report whatever they are told to report.
 Quoting: Jericho9


The people behind Obama already realize this thing is OVER. All you have to do is look at the desperation in +11,+13, and even +16D polling to see that.

I really do think the ground is being laid to delegitimize the coming Romney Victory, by claiming "STOLEN ELECTION!", "STUPID VOTERS!", "But, THE EXIT POLLS!" etc...

Remember who the people behind Obama are. Radical Academic Socialists have NEVER given up power peaceably, anywhere in the world they have taken control.

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The election is already over, Obama will steal the election
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Yep, he's gonna "bush" the elections. Is this how war begins here?
Occam's Razor, morans!
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Great observation as I agree!

Goofy Thum
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I travel extensively...
I see people everywhere chomping at the bit to get rid of this abysmal failure.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


That's IF we have an election AND it isn't rigged. The MSM WILL report whatever they are told to report.
 Quoting: Jericho9


The people behind Obama already realize this thing is OVER. All you have to do is look at the desperation in +11,+13, and even +16D polling to see that.

I really do think the ground is being laid to delegitimize the coming Romney Victory, by claiming "STOLEN ELECTION!", "STUPID VOTERS!", "But, THE EXIT POLLS!" etc...

Remember who the people behind Obama are. Radical Academic Socialists have NEVER given up power peaceably, anywhere in the world they have taken control.
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You know your stuff...very refreshing. Thanks for fanning the flames of truth!
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They were counting votes. 5k Dems = 18k votes
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The election is already over, Obama will steal the election
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They were counting votes. 5k Dems = 18k votes
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Romney is gonna win but who cares. Nothing is goin to change. stivk a fork in the America dream is dead.

Not Bush's fault, not Obama's fault it's the American sheeple. They are so stupid they really should not have freedom. Slaves is what thay are. Slaves is what they are happy with.
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Why would ANYONE go see him?The dude is a fucking scumbag......
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is done like burnt toast!

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Romney is gonna win but who cares. Nothing is goin to change. stivk a fork in the America dream is dead.

Not Bush's fault, not Obama's fault it's the American sheeple. They are so stupid they really should not have freedom. Slaves is what thay are. Slaves is what they are happy with.
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I was there. At least 15,000 people there. There were some seats empty on our side but that is because you could not get to them, the crowd was so large behind the seating area and if you did not have a special color tickets for seats you had to stand.
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Know one cares, they will only see what they want to see or believe what will back up their views. Instead of trying to find someone that was really there they will look at photo's (care be photo-shoped either way). If people would talk to real sources instead of all the hate i wonder what the world would be like.

But hey at least the President didnt go on Vacation while our country is falling apart. Honestly, i would like to get an all new congress because they are the true people to make the laws. But hey Look at the Monkey, look! look! (not racism just a saying we used when we ran trick play in sports)
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I've noticed that there are a LOT less political signs in my neighborhood than there were in 2008. I think a lot of people don't want to catch shit from either side, so they leave the lawn blank. It's really interesting to me in my LIBERAL neighborhood, because in 08 it was Obamaland.
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Same here. I remember seeing Obama bumper stickers constantly. Haven't seen even one this time around (except for the negative to Obama ones).
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Looks packed to me.

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Notice the second comment on this video of the event.

"u got the best seats haha i went and didn't even get a seat"

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I've noticed that there are a LOT less political signs in my neighborhood than there were in 2008. I think a lot of people don't want to catch shit from either side, so they leave the lawn blank. It's really interesting to me in my LIBERAL neighborhood, because in 08 it was Obamaland.
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Same here. I remember seeing Obama bumper stickers constantly. Haven't seen even one this time around (except for the negative to Obama ones).
 Quoting: INK3


I've only seen a few of the 2012 ones, mostly in the inner-city, on cars in Government Employee parking lots.
(Imagine that one, eh?)

You can still find the occasional 2008 Obama sticker on the back of a dented, banged up Prius, though.
(how's that for imagery?)
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This post is FAKE!!!!!
My family members were there and there were thousands of people and the place was filled and thousands waiting outside!

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