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The Time is near do you want to know The Truth! Wide is the Gate but Narrow is the Path and FEW will be that find it....

 
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link to www.sda-online.com

link to www.yhwh.com

So I know many of you don't care to read about this kind of topic but I find it very interesting. Hopefully, most of you will be respectful to those who have differences in opinion and are open to what anyone has to say NO MATTER how much the information someone puts out irritates you. Now moving on, I understand the ORIGINAL language of the bible was Hebrew.(When I speak about the ORIGINAL bible or ORIGINAL language of the bible I mean the Torah or TANAKH.) Many Christians like to praise JESUS when JESUS can't even be translated to Yeshua or Yahshua. First off, the name JESUS derived from Latin and Greek meaning IESOUS (Hail Zeus) in Greek, as for Latin Jesus is Zeus's name .

askdrbrown.org... eally-a-pagan-corruption-of-the-name-zeus

Furthermore, if Jesus could be translated to Yeshua or Yahshua then that would mean our Messiah is Zeus and that part of God's name is Zeus which it is NOT. The sacred name of our God of Israel is Yahweh. Our Fathers full name is YOD HEY VAV HEY. When you pronounce his name it should sound something like this yood (like a long "u " sound) hey wav hey. Also, if you look in scripture Yahweh tells us that his son will have his name in him. (hint hint Yeshua or Yahsua)

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Now if you are asking the question, how does this make it PAGAN, that's because when the ORIGINAL bible was translated to Greek many words could not be translated from the ORIGINAL Hebrew text. So therefor they added in words and phrases as they pleased including, IESOUS or IESUS or what ever you want to call it to be politically correct. (Either way it means Hail Zeus) This being said they used Greek "mythology" names of Goddesses to substitute some of the names which is used in ORIGINAL texts. Ancient Rome also added in ancient holidays and rituals to that of the ORIGINAL CHRISTIANITY. Ancient Christians were the gentiles who believed in Yahshua as their Lord and savior, not JESUS. They believed in Messianic Judaism.

As for who was the main culprit of it all, I would have to say that would have to go to many of the leaders of Ancient Rome including some key figures I would like to mention: Constatine, Julius Ceasar, and the Pharisees. Anyways, I don't feel like adding in anymore information. So I'm going to close this off with a link which will direct you to a youtube video called "Pagan Christianity". I encourage those of you who are opened to the truth to watch it.
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shouldn't the path be wide and the gate narrow? seems to make more sense. whatever...
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Another dum dum as usual! Good job instead of focusing on the message....

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that's christ's way way... insult when you run out of answers... it was a perfectly reasonable question.

and by the look of things, you should be glad someone is talking to you.


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If we speak of the same person who got crucified and resurrected under Pontius Pilatus I have no problem with His Hebrew name. Yet you cannot expect Greeks or other nations call Him the same.
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Your ignorance and your indifferance work well for you..
There is no one that ever existed known as Christ at least read the the website friend..

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So I know many of you don't care to read about this kind of topic but I find it very interesting. Hopefully, most of you will be respectful to those who have differences in opinion and are open to what anyone has to say NO MATTER how much the information someone puts out irritates you. Now moving on, I understand the ORIGINAL language of the bible was Hebrew.(When I speak about the ORIGINAL bible or ORIGINAL language of the bible I mean the Torah or TANAKH.) Many Christians like to praise JESUS when JESUS can't even be translated to Yeshua or Yahshua. First off, the name JESUS derived from Latin and Greek meaning IESOUS (Hail Zeus) in Greek, as for Latin Jesus is Zeus's name .
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First off there is no evidence that Iesous means "Hail Zeus". The Old Testament was also translated to Greek, that translation is called the Septuagint. In the Septuagint the name Iesous is also used. Obviously it didn't mean "Hail Zeus" in the Old Testament and it doesn't mean that in the New Testament.

The New Testament was written in Greek. They wrote Jesus's name in Greek as Iesous, as you know. If the Apostles really thought that Jesus's Name must be written in Hebrew, why would they write it in Greek? Why wouldn't they write into the bible: "NOTE: Jesus's Name must always be written in Hebrew!!". They didn't put that in the bible, it is just something somebody made up and thought was cool. There is no requirement in the bible to call Jesus by a Hebrew name.
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Your ignorance and your indifferance work well for you..
There is no one that ever existed known as Christ at least read the the website friend..
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Christ is a title, dude. Not a name, beginning with.
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Did you know that if you could go back to the time of the twelve apostles, if you walked up to Peter and said, "Please, take me to see Jesus Christ", Peter would get a puzzled look on his face and say the equivalent of, "Who, or what is that?" Did you know that no one who followed Jesus was capable of accurately pronouncing in English the name "Jesus"? The truth is, if you could go back in time, Peter would probably say something more like, "Come, let me introduce you to Y'shua the Messiah."

When the angel Gabriel came to Mary and told her she was going to have a son and what the child's name was to be, (Luke 1:31) the sound of the name that Mary heard come from Gabriel's lips was very close to, if not exactly... "Yahushua" pronounced Yah-hoo-shoo'-ah. In modern Hebrew script, "Yahushua" looks like and is read from right to left. This name is the blending of two Hebrew words. The first part, "Yah-hu", is part of God's name that is sometimes used at the beginning or end of a Hebrew name. God's full name is likely pronounced "Yahuah". More on this in a moment. The second part of the Messiah's name, "shua", is the Hebrew word for deliverance meaning, "saves". The name "Yahushua" literally means Yahweh/God-saves. The name Yahushua was then shortened for everyday use the same way a name like Barbara is often shortened to Barb (see the name parable), and the four syllable name Yahushua was shortened to three syllables, Yahshua. And in every day usage of the name, it came out even shorter and sounded like Y'shua.

Today, to make Y'shua more English user-friendly, some Messianics have replaced the apostrophe with the letter "e" as a least pronounced vowel in the English language, rendering it as Yeshua. This version of the Messiah's name is one that I used for some time as well. But because the "e" is almost always over-pronounced, sounding like one is beginning to say the word "yes", and the emphasis wrongly placed on the second syllable, I now prefer to use the more correctly pronounced spelling of Yahshua. It is pronounced like "Joshua" with a "y". The emphasis should remain with God's name in the first syllable.
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shouldn't the path be wide and the gate narrow? seems to make more sense. whatever...
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No

The Son of God is the Gate keeper, Nobody goes to the father but by him . He is very accepting , thus making the gate open to all.

The problem is the path to find and Know the son of God.The way of the King of Kings as messiah to mankind on earth.

You can not know False religions.
You must know the son of God.
You can not use graven images.
You can not follow the beast.

Very simple know the Son of God.
He is a poor poor Rich man. Not a world leader. Not a man on a cross image of a blasphemous church.He is also not a religion that strives to murder everyone as a judge "aka islam" Thou shalt not judge.

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Study brother study and find that the letter j wasn't formed until 600 BC So how can his name be JESUS!
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THE SACRED NAMES. Another common error among most of the translators is their elimination of heaven's revealed Name of the Most High, Yahweh, and the Name of His Son, Yahshua the Messiah, and. substituting the names of the local deities of the nations among whom they dwelt (Psalms 96:5), expressly transgressing Yahweh's commandments as given in Exodus 20:7 and 23:13.

For Yahweh they have substituted Baal, the Babylonian deity, and Adonay, the Canaanitish deity of the Phoenicians, both corresponding to the English word Lord.

The characteristic appellation of the Most High, Elohim, has been substituted by the Assyrian deity Gawd, or God in English, and is repudiated by Yahweh in Isaiah 65:11 which reads as follows, "But ye are they that forsake Yahweh, that forget My holy mountain, and furnish a table for God, and furnish a drink offering to Meni". No wonder the people of Scotland and some parts of northern England celebrate their Hogmanay, which in Hebrew means the feast of the god Meni, on New Year's Eve with a fellowship drink for good luck!

The name of the Son, Yahshua, has been substituted by Jesus, lesus, and Ea-zeus (Healing Zeus). Webster says that Zeus is the sky god and is also known as Deus (Latin), Dio (Italian), Dios (Spanish), Dayus (Sanscript), and Zeus Soter meaning Zeus the Saviour. Even in the French Bible they have substituted Dieu. Isaiah 65:11 truly expresses what Yahweh thinks of Christian worship.

The substitution of the Names of Yahweh and Yahshua by the names of the pagan deities of the nations has brought immeasurable harm. Such names as Lord, God, Jesus, and Christ in no way represent the meaning of the Name revealed by the Most High to Moses and the ancient Hebrew leaders. By employing these names the people unknowingly turn the worship of Yahweh into that of idols and actually ascribe the benevolent characteristics of the Mighty One of Israel to the pagan deities (Hosea 2:8).
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Study brother study and find that the letter j wasn't formed until 600 BC So how can his name be JESUS!
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The two words you use are just different levels of The word Lord. They also was not a name in old text.
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You can call a person names you want still the person stays the same. Do you believe in the same person like any other Christian or not?
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Thus ; The Lord said Unto the lord.
God said Unto god.
Man said unto man.
None are the same, and the english language can not decipher the real meaning of the thoughts.Nor can any of them , because translation is not ever perfect.

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Did you know that if you could go back to the time of the twelve apostles, if you walked up to Peter and said, "Please, take me to see Jesus Christ", Peter would get a puzzled look on his face and say the equivalent of, "Who, or what is that?" Did you know that no one who followed Jesus was capable of accurately pronouncing in English the name "Jesus"? The truth is, if you could go back in time, Peter would probably say something more like, "Come, let me introduce you to Y'shua the Messiah."
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Are you saying they didn't speak English back then? Because of course they didn't. What language did they speak? Are you sure they all went around speaking Hebrew all day? Have you considered that they may have actually spoken Greek, since they lived in the Eastern Roman Empire?

They sure wrote all those New Testament books in Greek, why do you think that is? Why didn't they write them in Hebrew? Why doesn't the bible say "You must call Jesus by a Hebrew name or it doesn't count"?

The bible does not say that people must call Jesus by a Hebrew name, and the bible does have Jesus's name written in Greek. Maybe you are just inventing a problem so you can tell people how wrong they are for doing what the bible says?
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"I am Yahweh: that is My Name, and My glory will I not give to another (name) neither My praise to graven images".16

"Oh Yahweh, Thy Name abideth for ages; Oh Yahweh, Thy memorial is to generation after generation"17

"If Yahweh be Elohim, follow Him; And if Baal (the Lord) then follow Him"18

"How long shall it be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? Yea they are prophets of the deceit of theirown heart, which think to cause My people to forget My Name-as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal (the Lord)"19

"I will take the names of Baalim (Lords) out of her mouth and they shall no more be remembered by their name"20

"I will declare Thy Name unto my brethren, in the midst of the congregation will I sing praise unto Thee"21

"And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the Name of Yahweh shall be saved"22

"And they that know Thy Name will put their trust in Thee23

"Thus saith Yahweh, the maker thereof, Yahweh that formed it, Yahweh is the Name; Call unto Me and I will answer thee and show thee great and hidden things which thou knowest not".24

"I have manifested Thy Name unto the men which Thou gavest Me out of the world"25

"And I have declared unto them Thy Name and will declare it"26

"Hallowed be Thy Name"27

The Sacred Name of the Messiah, Yahshua, is the only Name by which He was known to His disciples, though He has several titles such as Rabbi, Son of Man, Saviour, Anointed, and King of Kings.

"What is His Name and what is His Son's Name, if thou canst tell?"28

His Name is composed of two parts: Yah-Hoshua (Saviour). Thus, the contraction Yahshua signifies Yahweh-Saviour and strikingly bears out the logic of Matthew 1:21,

"And she shall bring forth a Son, and thou shalt call His Name YAHSHUA: for He shall save His people from their sins."

"I am come in My Father's Name and ye receive Me not--"29
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You can call a person names you want still the person stays the same. Do you believe in the same person like any other Christian or not?
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Chicken to answer?
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Did you know that if you could go back to the time of the twelve apostles, if you walked up to Peter and said, "Please, take me to see Jesus Christ", Peter would get a puzzled look on his face and say the equivalent of, "Who, or what is that?" Did you know that no one who followed Jesus was capable of accurately pronouncing in English the name "Jesus"? The truth is, if you could go back in time, Peter would probably say something more like, "Come, let me introduce you to Y'shua the Messiah."
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Are you saying they didn't speak English back then? Because of course they didn't. What language did they speak? Are you sure they all went around speaking Hebrew all day? Have you considered that they may have actually spoken Greek, since they lived in the Eastern Roman Empire?

They sure wrote all those New Testament books in Greek, why do you think that is? Why didn't they write them in Hebrew? Why doesn't the bible say "You must call Jesus by a Hebrew name or it doesn't count"?

The bible does not say that people must call Jesus by a Hebrew name, and the bible does have Jesus's name written in Greek. Maybe you are just inventing a problem so you can tell people how wrong they are for doing what the bible says?
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Actually they spoke Aramaic, Greek, Hebrew and Latin depending on their class and the circumstance
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The Sacred Name of the Messiah, Yahshua, is the only Name by which He was known to His disciples
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This is obviously not true. His disciples wrote His Name as Iesous in Greek in the bible. You won't find the name "Yahshua" written anywhere in the New Testament though, will you? Also they wrote Jesus's name as Emmanuel.

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
-- Matthew 1:23
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Actually they spoke Aramaic, Greek, Hebrew and Latin depending on their class and the circumstance
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So if you went up to one of the Apostles, and asked in Greek, "Where is Iesous?", chances are that they would know exactly who you were talking about and take you to Him.
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You can call a person names you want still the person stays the same. Do you believe in the same person like any other Christian or not?

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Lord", "God", "Gott", "Dios", "Manitou" or whatever happened to be the name of the local idol.

Now you may inquire why these distortions are so vitally important to us. They are of utmost importance because they obscure our instructions for spiritual survival and because they introduce seeming contradictions which in turn raise conscious or subconscious doubts in the minds of sincere individuals: The pagan elements today found in Christianity have made it appear falsely similar to other religions and have thus cast stumbling blocks before those who recognize this heathenism for what it is. By correcting the known distortions and purging the pseudo-Christian beliefs which have resulted, doctrinal integrity and consistency can be restored, thus making possible the wholeheartedness which the first-century brethren demonstrated but which is so sadly lacking among so-called Christians today.

Lack of wholeheartedness in belief and conduct is taken for granted by our society. Ours is an era of "lip service," notorious for the hiatus between avowed ideals and sordid performance. Its symptoms are found in all walks of life, from interpersonal relationships to international diplomacy. Socially-minded writers, including members of the clergy, frequently deplore this condition but seem unable to recognize that it is a symptom of the underlying conceptual malaise: the theological neurosis of modern Christianity so pointedly described in Revelation,

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of My mouth, because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and blind, and naked".35

This ailment is lamented by our contemporaries as "secularism," "illness of the spirit," and "death of the heart"; but whatever it is labeled, the condition is caused by failure to integrate that which professed believers do with that which they profess to believe. It amounts to an unconscious out-ward manifestation of a mass of unresolved internal conflicts and a kind of unconscious rebellion against further self-deception and confusion of values.

Since church hierarchies so unanimously complain about the symptoms of the disease why have they not Iona ago taken the steps essential to removing its cause? Why do they in fact display such astonishing ingenuity in avoiding recognition of their own share in ihe ideological confusion? Perhaps the answer may be found in the well-known phenomenon of neurosis wherein its Possessor blinds himself to its very existence and resists any efforts to effect a cure. This explanation appears to be borne out by the verses quoted above and by verse 18 which counsels the application of "eyesalve." Is this not strikingly reminiscent of the condition described in Isaiah 6:9-10:

"--lest they see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and change and be healed"?

What then, may twentieth century believers do to become more open-eyed and wholehearted in their belief--genuine doers of the Word? How can they attain deep and enduring faith comparable to that of the first century brethren? One prerequisite is a degree of doctrinal coherence comparable to that of the first century; another is recognition of unsubstantiated scientific dogma as such.

The popular a priori theories concerning the origin and antiquity of man and of the universe are examples of such generally-accepted assumptions

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Do some more research and maybe you will stumble upon the truth....Chicken is a bird that we eat!!
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Around 400 A.D. the Latin language became the predominate language of Christianity and the Greek versions of the New Testament were translated to Latin. The Latin Bible, or Vulgate as it is called, also transliterated what was left of Yahshua's Greek name by bringing across the same sound of "ee-ay-soos". This was easy, because all of the Greek sounds in this name are also made in Latin. The letters of the Latin alphabet are different from that of Greek but virtually identical to English. The new transliteration of the Greek name "ee-ay-soos" became written as and was identical in pronunciation to the Greek name. This Latin spelling and on-going pronunciation dominated the Christian world for nearly 1,000 years.



Meanwhile, the English language was still evolving. Before the 12th century, the letter ( J ) did not exist in the Old English language. The sound the letter ( J ) makes has never existed in the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin languages. This fact is why no one in Yahshua's day could have accurately pronounced the English name Jesus. Sometime during the early 12th century, ( J ) began showing up in some obscure dialects of the Middle English language. Over the course of the next 500 years, infatuation with the new sound caused letters like ( I ) and (Y) in the English language to be replaced by a ( J ). This was especially true of male names that began with ( I ) or (Y) because the hard sound was, again, considered more masculine. Names like Iames became "James", Yohan became "John", and so on. During this period, in 1384 John Wycliffe translated the New Testament to English for the first time. His only source was the Latin Vulgate. Wycliffe continued to use the Latin spelling and pronunciation of Iesus. The printing press had not yet been invented and only a few hand-written copies of Wycliffe's Bible were produced. In the 1450's, Gutenburg invented the printing press. Then in 1526 William Tyndale translated the New Testament to the English language from the Latin Vulgate along with the additional help of some ancient Greek manuscripts. Tyndale wanted the Bible translated into the language of the common people and many copies of his translation were printed with the help of the printing press. Tyndale was the first to use the letter ( J ) in the spelling of the name . This new spelling in the hands of many marginally-literate English commoners soon became pronounced by the general public as "Jee-zuz". By the 17th century, the letter ( J ) was officially part of the King's English and in 1611 the most renowned English translation of all, the King James Bible, was put into massive print, complete with pronunciation helps for all proper names including the name of Jesus as we pronounce it today. Every name in the Bible that begins with the letter ( J ), has come to us this same way. Names like "Jeremiah", "Jerusalem", "Judah", "John" and "Jew" are only a few examples. At no time in history when these people and places were being written about did there exist in their language the sound of the letter ( J )!

With the new official English pronunciation of the name "Jee-zuz", the last remaining sound found in the name "Yahshua", (the oo as in "soon" sound), had vanished. Nothing in this name remains recognizable in either the sound or the meaning of the name Yahshua. It should also be pointed out that the word "Christ" is not a name but a title. It is basically a Greek translation of the title Messiah and means "anointed one". So all that is left of the sweet gentle sound of Yahshua the Messiah is the series of phonetically harsh sounds "Jee-zuz Chr-i-st", which no doubt has lent this name to the abuse it has suffered. At one time, I believed the name Jesus Christ is commonly used in cursing because Jesus is his name and God-less men hate it. But in all my research, I have been unable to find one other language in which his name is used in a similar cursing manner. No other language renders the Lord's name with the phonetic harshness as does the English language. One exception would be the near identical way "Christ" in pronounced in French, and interestingly enough, it too is regularly used in cursing! Considering the indisputable fact that for nearly fifteen hundred years after Yahshua walked the earth the world never heard the name "Jesus", I can only conclude that the English version of his name is abused solely because of its harsh sound. Remember, the name Jesus has existed for only a few hundred years.
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You can call a person names you want still the person stays the same. Do you believe in the same person like any other Christian or not?

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Lord", "God", "Gott", "Dios", "Manitou" or whatever happened to be the name of the local idol.

Now you may inquire why these distortions are so vitally important to us. They are of utmost importance because they obscure our instructions for spiritual survival and because they introduce seeming contradictions which in turn raise conscious or subconscious doubts in the minds of sincere individuals: The pagan elements today found in Christianity have made it appear falsely similar to other religions and have thus cast stumbling blocks before those who recognize this heathenism for what it is. By correcting the known distortions and purging the pseudo-Christian beliefs which have resulted, doctrinal integrity and consistency can be restored, thus making possible the wholeheartedness which the first-century brethren demonstrated but which is so sadly lacking among so-called Christians today.

Lack of wholeheartedness in belief and conduct is taken for granted by our society. Ours is an era of "lip service," notorious for the hiatus between avowed ideals and sordid performance. Its symptoms are found in all walks of life, from interpersonal relationships to international diplomacy. Socially-minded writers, including members of the clergy, frequently deplore this condition but seem unable to recognize that it is a symptom of the underlying conceptual malaise: the theological neurosis of modern Christianity so pointedly described in Revelation,

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of My mouth, because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and blind, and naked".35

This ailment is lamented by our contemporaries as "secularism," "illness of the spirit," and "death of the heart"; but whatever it is labeled, the condition is caused by failure to integrate that which professed believers do with that which they profess to believe. It amounts to an unconscious out-ward manifestation of a mass of unresolved internal conflicts and a kind of unconscious rebellion against further self-deception and confusion of values.

Since church hierarchies so unanimously complain about the symptoms of the disease why have they not Iona ago taken the steps essential to removing its cause? Why do they in fact display such astonishing ingenuity in avoiding recognition of their own share in ihe ideological confusion? Perhaps the answer may be found in the well-known phenomenon of neurosis wherein its Possessor blinds himself to its very existence and resists any efforts to effect a cure. This explanation appears to be borne out by the verses quoted above and by verse 18 which counsels the application of "eyesalve." Is this not strikingly reminiscent of the condition described in Isaiah 6:9-10:

"--lest they see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and change and be healed"?

What then, may twentieth century believers do to become more open-eyed and wholehearted in their belief--genuine doers of the Word? How can they attain deep and enduring faith comparable to that of the first century brethren? One prerequisite is a degree of doctrinal coherence comparable to that of the first century; another is recognition of unsubstantiated scientific dogma as such.

The popular a priori theories concerning the origin and antiquity of man and of the universe are examples of such generally-accepted assumptions

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Do some more research and maybe you will stumble upon the truth....Chicken is a bird that we eat!!
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It was for His deeds His Father did choose Him. His name does not matter. Do you believe in the resurrected Messiah ca.2000 years ago or not?
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that's christ's way way... insult when you run out of answers... it was a perfectly reasonable question.

and by the look of things, you should be glad someone is talking to you.


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Obviously you have deep rooted issues i will not begin to address,,, by educating yourself with simple word searches on the internet maybe you will grasp the the straw however small....

The mind is like a parachute it works best when it is open......

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You can call a person names you want still the person stays the same. Do you believe in the same person like any other Christian or not?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3020064

Lord", "God", "Gott", "Dios", "Manitou" or whatever happened to be the name of the local idol.

Now you may inquire why these distortions are so vitally important to us. They are of utmost importance because they obscure our instructions for spiritual survival and because they introduce seeming contradictions which in turn raise conscious or subconscious doubts in the minds of sincere individuals: The pagan elements today found in Christianity have made it appear falsely similar to other religions and have thus cast stumbling blocks before those who recognize this heathenism for what it is. By correcting the known distortions and purging the pseudo-Christian beliefs which have resulted, doctrinal integrity and consistency can be restored, thus making possible the wholeheartedness which the first-century brethren demonstrated but which is so sadly lacking among so-called Christians today.

Lack of wholeheartedness in belief and conduct is taken for granted by our society. Ours is an era of "lip service," notorious for the hiatus between avowed ideals and sordid performance. Its symptoms are found in all walks of life, from interpersonal relationships to international diplomacy. Socially-minded writers, including members of the clergy, frequently deplore this condition but seem unable to recognize that it is a symptom of the underlying conceptual malaise: the theological neurosis of modern Christianity so pointedly described in Revelation,

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of My mouth, because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and blind, and naked".35

This ailment is lamented by our contemporaries as "secularism," "illness of the spirit," and "death of the heart"; but whatever it is labeled, the condition is caused by failure to integrate that which professed believers do with that which they profess to believe. It amounts to an unconscious out-ward manifestation of a mass of unresolved internal conflicts and a kind of unconscious rebellion against further self-deception and confusion of values.

Since church hierarchies so unanimously complain about the symptoms of the disease why have they not Iona ago taken the steps essential to removing its cause? Why do they in fact display such astonishing ingenuity in avoiding recognition of their own share in ihe ideological confusion? Perhaps the answer may be found in the well-known phenomenon of neurosis wherein its Possessor blinds himself to its very existence and resists any efforts to effect a cure. This explanation appears to be borne out by the verses quoted above and by verse 18 which counsels the application of "eyesalve." Is this not strikingly reminiscent of the condition described in Isaiah 6:9-10:

"--lest they see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and change and be healed"?

What then, may twentieth century believers do to become more open-eyed and wholehearted in their belief--genuine doers of the Word? How can they attain deep and enduring faith comparable to that of the first century brethren? One prerequisite is a degree of doctrinal coherence comparable to that of the first century; another is recognition of unsubstantiated scientific dogma as such.

The popular a priori theories concerning the origin and antiquity of man and of the universe are examples of such generally-accepted assumptions

_____________________________________________________________​___________

Do some more research and maybe you will stumble upon the truth....Chicken is a bird that we eat!!
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It was for His deeds His Father did choose Him. His name does not matter. Do you believe in the resurrected Messiah ca.2000 years ago or not?
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O.K. One too hard question for you. Bye.
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Approx. 1300 B.C.

Then Moses said to God, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"

And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, "I AM has sent me to you.'"

Morevover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: 'the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.'



Approx. 31 A.D.

Christ: "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was I AM."


They then picked up stones to kill him.....for claiming to be God. But He passed through the midst of them.

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