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Bye-bye to your vaccine exemption... States gone wild!

 
UseLess RepEATER
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Vaccines did NOT save us. All deaths from childhood illnesses were on their way down prior to the widespread use of vaccines, even for diseases that do not have a vaccine.

[link to childhealthsafety.wordpress.com]

Vaccines did NOT eradicate Polio.

[link to rense.com]

When the small pox vaccine was widely used, the death rate from small pox actually went up, not down.

Better food, better water & better sanitation is what saved us. We weren't dumping raw sewage in the streets. People learned to better ways to keep food.
 Quoting: mopar28m


Hey mop. Here we go again.
hf
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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~Plato~

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the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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Vaccines did NOT save us. All deaths from childhood illnesses were on their way down prior to the widespread use of vaccines, even for diseases that do not have a vaccine.

[link to childhealthsafety.wordpress.com]

Vaccines did NOT eradicate Polio.

[link to rense.com]

When the small pox vaccine was widely used, the death rate from small pox actually went up, not down.

Better food, better water & better sanitation is what saved us. We weren't dumping raw sewage in the streets. People learned to better ways to keep food.
 Quoting: mopar28m


Hey mop. Here we go again.
hf
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Yep and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I wrote a zinger of an article for the school newspaper about the flu shot. I've already gotten push back from one prof, I'm waiting for the nursing professors to start on me along with the nursing students.

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woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones.

No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732

If vaccines are so great, then why are vaccinated kids at such risk from unvaccinated kids?

WHAT in life is 100%, and WHY should vaccines require 100% participation if they do not provide 100% protection AND 100% absolute safety?

YOU can't say vaccines are 100% safe, BUT you want 100% participation because they DON'T work 100%?

YOU cripple YOUR children, so everyone ELSE has to cripple THEIRS because their kids have healthy immune systems and yours no longer do?

FUCK YOU!

The "vaccinations do not work 100% , so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones" is bullshit ON IT'S FACE. The kids don't LIVE in school. They spend HUGE amounts of time exposed to unvaccinated people. And besides, doesn't the vaccine make them STRONGER? Aren't the UNvaccinated kids the ones at risk? If vaccines "do not work 100%" then even if ALL the kids are vaccinated, they'd STILL get sick.

And then there's the moral issue - you're saying unvsaccinated kids CAUSE illness, which is utter crap. And vaccine access to kids bodies is VOLUNTARY, but you are denying PUBLIC EDUCATION from already seized taxes for kids who do not volunteer? By what right? And how do you reverse the repsonsibility from voluntary to involuntary, and demand that everyone volunteer in the name of 100%, for something THAT CAN NEVER BE 100%.

Finally, what about WHY people want to avoid vaccines? Are they ALL stupid? Only if you IGNORE their STUDIED concerns - and their sick kids. The ONLY people with truly sick kids are the ones who got vaccinated! HALF of PRIVATE school kids are NOT vaccinated because their parents are more educated and wealthier - because THEY work in medicine and KNOW the death in those vaccines.

You filthy murdering lying bastard.

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Vaccines may well be a health concern, but that risk should be weighed against the risk of disease. Before vaccines something approaching half the children never lived to see adulthood. Obviously not all those deaths were from those particular diseases. With vaccines we have seen the rise of antibiotics, sanitation, and better healthcare in general.

So it would be hard to put a number on how many lives vaccines save, but I'll bet it's in the high tens of thousands per year.

There is a trade off of more risk for lesser risk.
 Quoting: Erectus


You ever checked how many die from the vaccines or are damaged by them?

It is the child hood diseases that were common when I was a child, I had most of the ones they give shots for, and most everyone I know had them, too. That would be mumps, rubella, measles. I know of only one person that died from these diseases, that was because, she had all at the same time, which is very rare.

Polio was waning, when I was starting school my cousin got it, from the shot they gave her!

Hooping cough was very bad, but the vaccine that was given to the children back then cause them to get it. I am not sure the one now works, because children who have had the shot, got it later.

A lot of the other shots, aren't needed if you know what causes the disease, you stop the problem before it starts.
Sanitary conditions keeps the disease from breaking out, clean water, and getting rid of rodents and other disease carrying animals.
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woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones.

No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732

If vaccines are so great, then why are vaccinated kids at such risk from unvaccinated kids?

WHAT in life is 100%, and WHY should vaccines require 100% participation if they do not provide 100% protection AND 100% absolute safety?

YOU can't say vaccines are 100% safe, BUT you want 100% participation because they DON'T work 100%?

YOU cripple YOUR children, so everyone ELSE has to cripple THEIRS because their kids have healthy immune systems and yours no longer do?

FUCK YOU!

The "vaccinations do not work 100% , so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones" is bullshit ON IT'S FACE. The kids don't LIVE in school. They spend HUGE amounts of time exposed to unvaccinated people. And besides, doesn't the vaccine make them STRONGER? Aren't the UNvaccinated kids the ones at risk? If vaccines "do not work 100%" then even if ALL the kids are vaccinated, they'd STILL get sick.

And then there's the moral issue - you're saying unvsaccinated kids CAUSE illness, which is utter crap. And vaccine access to kids bodies is VOLUNTARY, but you are denying PUBLIC EDUCATION from already seized taxes for kids who do not volunteer? By what right? And how do you reverse the repsonsibility from voluntary to involuntary, and demand that everyone volunteer in the name of 100%, for something THAT CAN NEVER BE 100%.

Finally, what about WHY people want to avoid vaccines? Are they ALL stupid? Only if you IGNORE their STUDIED concerns - and their sick kids. The ONLY people with truly sick kids are the ones who got vaccinated! HALF of PRIVATE school kids are NOT vaccinated because their parents are more educated and wealthier - because THEY work in medicine and KNOW the death in those vaccines.

You filthy murdering lying bastard.

:: spit ::
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1610534


putin If you could temper your venomous anger for 2 seconds and read my posts on page 2 you would have my answer to your first question. As for the rest, first of all, I NEVER said anyone should be forced to vaccinate their children; quite the opposite in fact. I simply said that they should not attend the same public schools. BIG difference.

And regardless of how much you disagree with me, I have been respectful with my posts; perhaps you should try it...
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Vaccines did NOT save us. All deaths from childhood illnesses were on their way down prior to the widespread use of vaccines, even for diseases that do not have a vaccine.

[link to childhealthsafety.wordpress.com]

Vaccines did NOT eradicate Polio.

[link to rense.com]

When the small pox vaccine was widely used, the death rate from small pox actually went up, not down.

Better food, better water & better sanitation is what saved us. We weren't dumping raw sewage in the streets. People learned to better ways to keep food.
 Quoting: mopar28m


Hey mop. Here we go again.
hf
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Yep and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I wrote a zinger of an article for the school newspaper about the flu shot. I've already gotten push back from one prof, I'm waiting for the nursing professors to start on me along with the nursing students.

cuppig
 Quoting: mopar28m


I wish there were a way I could read it? I can only imagine the type of brainwashed push-back you are getting?
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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So what.. if you don't like it get the hell out of your country.. there is a whole world out there..

Don't want to or cant get out of your country .. then rise up and take your country back..

Just want to sit around and whine on the internet.
Kickback and stfu.
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The "Garden State" to be renamed the Pharmaceutical State.

Child sacrifice now mandatory, not to mention very trendy. New Jersey is the stealth California of the East.

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ok i will recant/change my reply A LITTLE ... im sure somewhere out there is a vaccine that hasnt been defiled with god knows what in the present day ... my point really was you cant cite something that was apparently good in the past and apply it for the rest of time ... if i drank a glass of orange juice last week and it was good for me, then yesterday they filled all orange juice containers with cyanide, i can pretty much be certain my trust and experience with orange juice from last week wont help pull me thru the effects of cyanide today

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Again, it's a 2-way street. If you want me to respect your choices as a parent, no matter how ignorant I may believe them to be, you must respect my choices as a parent, no matter how ignorant you believe them to be. My vaccinated children go to public school, and your unvaccinated ones should go to private school or be homeschooled. It's the only way to be fair to everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


You're not putting up a 2-way street - you're seizing public education for yourself.

How about this: you want to shoot crap into your children, you find another place to put them. People who DON'T fuck up their childrens' bodies have the primary right to public school. You don't want you kids in public school, where children have been left to grow up without being drugged, YOU take YOUR children elsewhere. YOO put YOUR children in private school, or homeschool them. YOU change. YOU leave. YOU go.

Get the FUCK OUT.

You hypocritical bastard.
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Again, it's a 2-way street. If you want me to respect your choices as a parent, no matter how ignorant I may believe them to be, you must respect my choices as a parent, no matter how ignorant you believe them to be. My vaccinated children go to public school, and your unvaccinated ones should go to private school or be homeschooled. It's the only way to be fair to everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


You're not putting up a 2-way street - you're seizing public education for yourself.

How about this: you want to shoot crap into your children, you find another place to put them. People who DON'T fuck up their childrens' bodies have the primary right to public school. You don't want you kids in public school, where children have been left to grow up without being drugged, YOU take YOUR children elsewhere. YOO put YOUR children in private school, or homeschool them. YOU change. YOU leave. YOU go.

Get the FUCK OUT.

You hypocritical bastard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1610534


Ah but see I belong to the vast majority. And I also follow the rules of the public education system.
This does in fact give me the right to keep my children in public school.
You belong to a small minority of parents who doesn't agree with accepted science and the rules of the public education system, and therefore it is you who must find another way. That's the way this country works. It's fair.

And seriously, your language and name-calling are only hurting your argument.
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I NEVER said anyone should be forced to vaccinate their children; quite the opposite in fact. I simply said that they should not attend the same public schools. BIG difference.
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ZERO difference, clown.

YOU get out of the public schools.

Hey, it's no big deal, right? No one is forcing you to do a thing.

So GET OUT.



And regardless of how much you disagree with me, I have been respectful with my posts; perhaps you should try it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732

Your very position is the RAPE of respect.

And the death of children.

What do you think so many MILLIONS of people are so angry about?

Fool.
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Vaccines did NOT save us. All deaths from childhood illnesses were on their way down prior to the widespread use of vaccines, even for diseases that do not have a vaccine.

[link to childhealthsafety.wordpress.com]

Vaccines did NOT eradicate Polio.

[link to rense.com]

When the small pox vaccine was widely used, the death rate from small pox actually went up, not down.

Better food, better water & better sanitation is what saved us. We weren't dumping raw sewage in the streets. People learned to better ways to keep food.
 Quoting: mopar28m


Hey mop. Here we go again.
hf
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Yep and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I wrote a zinger of an article for the school newspaper about the flu shot. I've already gotten push back from one prof, I'm waiting for the nursing professors to start on me along with the nursing students.

cuppig
 Quoting: mopar28m


I wish there were a way I could read it? I can only imagine the type of brainwashed push-back you are getting?
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Here you go, I posted it on my blog too.

[link to vaccinefreehealth.blogspot.com]

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I NEVER said anyone should be forced to vaccinate their children; quite the opposite in fact. I simply said that they should not attend the same public schools. BIG difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732

ZERO difference, clown.

YOU get out of the public schools.

Hey, it's no big deal, right? No one is forcing you to do a thing.

So GET OUT.



And regardless of how much you disagree with me, I have been respectful with my posts; perhaps you should try it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732

Your very position is the RAPE of respect.

And the death of children.

What do you think so many MILLIONS of people are so angry about?

Fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1610534


Well you've clearly abandoned all logic and reason and stuck with hurling insults, so I'm done arguing with you. There is obviously no middle ground to be found with you. I truly wish you and your children the best.
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You make no sense in your argument. If your kids are vaccinated...why worry about mine?
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Did you even read my post before posting your rebuttal? because I already explained this.

If you want people to respect your choices as a parent, you need to respect others' as well. It's a 2-way street.

I choose to vaccinate and send my children to public school where they will only be around other vaccinated children. You have every right not to vaccinate your children, and I will respect that, but you must respect my decision to protect my children from yours, and either send your children to a private school in line with your beliefs, or homeschool them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


I just have a simple rebuttal: if your children are vaccinated against all these hyped up diseases, why are you concerned since they now have lifetime immunity as the theory goes? Your children have built-in protection?
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Once again, did you even read my original post?? Or the repost where I bolded the answer to this question? Vaccines are NOT 100% effective. There is still a small risk that an infectious person could infect a vaccinated person. This is why a large enough percentage of the population (around 95%) needs to be vaccinated; to help proved a barrier protecting the few who aren't immune.

Again, it's a 2-way street. If you want me to respect your choices as a parent, no matter how ignorant I may believe them to be, you must respect my choices as a parent, no matter how ignorant you believe them to be. My vaccinated children go to public school, and your unvaccinated ones should go to private school or be homeschooled. It's the only way to be fair to everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Au contraire. Vaccines are 100% efficacious at accomplishing their intended purposes which are: damaging forever the immune system; causing (mostly) irreversible brain damage (worse in some than others); changing DNA structure; causing many allergies (food, pet, etc.); causing the disease they allegedly protect against; and is some cases causing CANCER.

The greatest irony as it pertains to your post is: vaccinated children pose a far greater threat to the unvaccinated children. From my observation, and I am in a position to have much experience in dealing with sick people, vaccinated individuals tend to be sick much more often than the unvaccinated, esp. children.

That said, an unvaccinated child receiving a healthy dietary regiment, sunlight, proper vitamin/mineral intake, non-fluoridated water, etc. will easily fight off the myriad common cold/flu viruses being spread by the vaccinated children who are chronically immunocompromised.

Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 09/24/2012 02:09 AM
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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Ah but see I belong to the vast majority. And I also follow the rules of the public education system.
This does in fact give me the right to keep my children in public school.
You belong to a small minority of parents who doesn't agree with accepted science and the rules of the public education system, and therefore it is you who must find another way. That's the way this country works. It's fair.

And seriously, your language and name-calling are only hurting your argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


You have no "right" to public school. Merely privilege, if you follow the rules. do you even know the difference? Do you even care?

The rules do not require vaccination, under certain conditions that are kept hidden from people, and against which people are terrorized by trying to invoke these rules on behalf of their children's safety. So you are lying about the rules. Do you love ALL rules? Then shouldn't you be supporting the rules that ALLOW non-vaccinated children into schools? After all - they're the RULES, too. Or do you just enjoy SOME rules? Does picking and choosing the rules YOU like follow the RULES? I think not.

Majorities are often wrong. Majorities are often sheep. Majorities, historically, have followed Hitler and Stalin and Mao. Majorities were rejected by the Founders of America. This place is not a democracy, it is a Republic. BECAUSE the majority is SO stupid they're DANGEROUS.

YOU ignore the theft of tax money at gunpoint, to pay for schools which try to force vaccinations through lies, passed by pharmaceutical companies which openly lobby and control the RULE makers to allow them to test poison on children.

You also ignore the damage to those children. The millions of ADHD, plunging test scores, and horrible sicknesses that have ALL been linked to vaccines.

What is "fair" to you? That pharmaceutical money writes the "rules" you worship? That you can remain calm while arguing parents should be forced out of public education unless they poison their children? Than it doesn't bother you that children are poisoned?

Are you medicated? Is that why you're calm? Or is using RULES to cut off frightened parents with sick children - millions of them - simply something that gives you a warm glow inside?

You're sick. Your calmness in the face of mass murder, and enjoyment of RULES, are major facets of your sickness. You promulgate nightmares of suffering for millions of people, and enjoy it.

There is no vaccine for you.

But anger in the face of your evil is the vaccine for millions of people who are horrifed by people like you.

Your soul is dead.
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Well you've clearly abandoned all logic and reason and stuck with hurling insults, so I'm done arguing with you. There is obviously no middle ground to be found with you. I truly wish you and your children the best.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732

No there is no middle ground between us. You want my children sick and dead, and I want your evil stopped.

NO middle ground.

I truly wish your children survive you.

But I doubt they will.
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woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones.

No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them.
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sheep Spoken like a good little New World Orderist. People like you make me sick.
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H1N1 anyone?


Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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VACCINES PROTECT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE AGAINST NOTHING; THEY ONLY CAUSE HARM. The evidence is becoming more and more overwhelming.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


If you were around in the 50s in the U.S. and the polio and iron lung that sometimes went with it....
And then saw polio wiped out en masse with a couple of vaccines in the states...

You wouldn't say that.
As it is, you've shown your ignorance of basic history.
Which I see all the time in forums like this.

You weren't there, you did not witness what I've said for yourself (I was there, by the way).
You listen to hyper-fear and have concluded all vaccines are evil.

You've screwed your own brain... not just by letting someone else screw your brain... but continuing that all on your own.

If you don't believe me, research the stats for polio before and after the two vaccines.
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Then you should be aware of the rates of polio among the vaccinated population then?... I'm guessing you're just as brainwashed as everybody else who actually believe/d the propaganda... Fact is, regardless of the lack of data released to the general public, polio in the VACCINATED population was the epidemic... But of course big pharma pushed that little tidbit of information under the rug like everything else pertaining to the ineffectiveness of vaccines. If anything, those of us who choose to not vaccinate ourselves and our children should serve as proof of their ineffectiveness. If all of you pro-vaxers would just shut up with your senseless blabbing for one minute, maybe you would be in awe of the fact that our children never get sick, where as, your vaccinated children are sick multiple times a year, our unvaccinated kids are some of the most advanced of their peers, and have the lowest rates of autism spectrum, ADHD, depression/anxiety, bi-polar and neurological and behavioral disorders... If only the FDA would do a legitimate study comparing the two groups of children, but of course then people will know the truth and they can't have that! nooooo!... The fact that there are no evidence-based studies pertaining to the unvaccinated should serve as a red flag, but of course people don't do their own thinking these days... Maybe if all of you propaganda-blind people could stop being in denial with your fingers in your ears, you could begin to open your eyes to the BIG EYEdea...
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Please pin this!


State governments are passing laws to get rid of exemptions for religious reasons... Idol1

CA is half way there, New Jersey is on it's way....

Here's the 'progress' on the CA legislation:

[link to www.historyofvaccines.org]

'progress' in New Jersey:
[link to articles.philly.com]

Passed in the state of Washington:
[link to www.washingtonvotes.org]

Please pin this!

 Quoting: We're doomeda1 24006980


This sounds like Al*x J*nes fear mongering.

We got repeat calls from my son's school nurse about the lack of vaccinations. My wife said we don't believe in 'em... the nurse asked us to write a letter and sign it. It was a single line of handwritten text with her signature on a piece of copy paper. All good. No problems after that.

Bottom line: You don't need any form. Just a signed letter is all you need.

Try it. If it gets denied, then worry about it.
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You mean that dumbass that has been telling people for 20 years, that they were going to have a police state and the government was going to get out of control.

I remember he even said that they were going to purposely destroy the economy and even said on July 2001 that they were going to kill a bunch of people by pulling a false flag and blame it on some guy named Bin Laden.

God that guy is a piece of work.

What a fear mongering dumbass.
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So what.. if you don't like it get the hell out of your country.. there is a whole world out there..

Don't want to or cant get out of your country .. then rise up and take your country back..

Just want to sit around and whine on the internet.
Kickback and stfu.
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go?
where?
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Save your pets too people.
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I dont vaccinate my kids or my pets
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Hey mop. Here we go again.
hf
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Yep and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I wrote a zinger of an article for the school newspaper about the flu shot. I've already gotten push back from one prof, I'm waiting for the nursing professors to start on me along with the nursing students.

cuppig
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I wish there were a way I could read it? I can only imagine the type of brainwashed push-back you are getting?
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Here you go, I posted it on my blog too.

[link to vaccinefreehealth.blogspot.com]

angeldemon
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Great article Mop. You included many of the Dr.'s and studies within the body of the article, but did anyone ask for a References/Sources cited/Bibliography addendum? Your cred. is golden with me, but I could see how someone may ask for these things esp. in a school setting?

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woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones.
No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them.
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You make no sense in your argument. If your kids are vaccinated...why worry about mine?
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Did you even read my post before posting your rebuttal? because I already explained this.

If you want people to respect your choices as a parent, you need to respect others' as well. It's a 2-way street.

I choose to vaccinate and send my children to public school where they will only be around other vaccinated children. You have every right not to vaccinate your children, and I will respect that, but you must respect my decision to protect my children from yours, and either send your children to a private school in line with your beliefs, or homeschool them.
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There are hundreds of vaccines for different diseases. Why not give all the shots to your kids just to be safe.
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The folks in the state who have gone beyond their positions can be replaced at the next election.

Target them. Vote out their bosses. Disband their offices.

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Hahaha, good luck imposing that.
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VACCINES PROTECT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE AGAINST NOTHING; THEY ONLY CAUSE HARM. The evidence is becoming more and more overwhelming.
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If you were around in the 50s in the U.S. and the polio and iron lung that sometimes went with it....
And then saw polio wiped out en masse with a couple of vaccines in the states...

You wouldn't say that.
As it is, you've shown your ignorance of basic history.
Which I see all the time in forums like this.

You weren't there, you did not witness what I've said for yourself (I was there, by the way).
You listen to hyper-fear and have concluded all vaccines are evil.

You've screwed your own brain... not just by letting someone else screw your brain... but continuing that all on your own.

If you don't believe me, research the stats for polio before and after the two vaccines.
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you are showing your ignorance

polio didn't go away, they renamed it

and it is still going on

but it was already on the decline when the fake vaccines came out anyway

it had run it's mass epidemic course

you should do some research yourself
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Hepatitis C comes to mind. And as far as I know there is no vaccination 'against it'.
How many of our children are going to be led away down the garden path and experiment with IV drug use at some point?
Hep C is very common. No vaccine. Why is that so?
Treatment rakes in too much money, no doubt.
Don't get me wrong - I hope to God IV drug use is soon to be a thing of the past - darkest days of history.
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I don't need to give those bastards an exemption paper. This is MY body and they will not tell me what to do with it, esp. when it comes to their injecting crap into it.

People have to say no to this if they don't want to do it.

Let the ones who want it, get shot up.

After all, those of us who are not vaccinated couldn't possibly be a threat to all of those safely vaccinated folks, could we? I mean... the vaccinations work... don't they?

eh hem
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If they shoot you with aluminum and mercury, shoot back, with copper-jacketed lead.

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