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Who or What Created This Reality? For What?

 
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Did we create this reality?

But the version of us inside doesn't realize we made it for ourselves?

I have a theory, I call it the Universal Fractal Story.

I think everything that nature is made up of: light, darkness, happy, sad, jealous, sexy, plants, animals - all of this stuff is what happens after a while.

One thing lead to another, and we're left with exactly what is specifically in front of our faces...

Environmental destruction, amnesia, stupidity, violence, war, starvation...

Like a big mixing bowl that left nothing out, not even the bad stuff, for the sake of completeness...

Do you think there's a specific point to it? A conclusion? Or not?

Like, are we supposed to learn the nature of all things, and become a mediator between the forces?

And what about the "matrix" level of the experience? That this reality is an illusion?

Are we in an illusion, to learn how to mediate and maintain sovereignty within illusion, from first hand experience?

Or is that a false lure to keep you in the illusion? Or maybe we get to a point where it just doesn't have a foothold any longer, and we can't be contained by any illusion?

Perhaps ironically this can only be figured out, from within an illusion?

It seems like maybe we're learning the hard way, about archons, spiritual parasites, self-destructive tendencies, spiritual hierarchies and delusions - as an attempt to know better?

If I'm just angsty and throw a fit, the conflict continues - or I become like my aggressor - so co-respect and empathy seems like maybe on the right track? Without adding further conflict?

When we get through this, what next?

Is this maybe like a way of experiencing the universes greatest hits on one planet, then we're in a balanced perspective to reintegrate the rest of the universes in the after life?

Which is full of archons, illusions, overly-biased light and dark - and friendly spirits with no ulterior motives - so if we don't make it through here we're just not ready?

Maybe this is like New York, if we make it here, we can make it anywhere?

And maybe, just maybe, we designed this whole thing a long time ago, to cover ALL the bases? And exhaust all possibilities?

So that when we can start using light, we can do so responsibly because we know from first hand experience what its like?

Thoughts or commentary would be amazing :)

hf
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From the looks of it, God created all of this for Satan to rule. He is the God of this world.
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This habitate designed to grow incubate terrestrial beings for celestial being and life form.

All are created beings from one being who was not created so we must go through our process to go to our place with the one who creates all and us.

Our creator is our Lord and our God some slang out his name Jeebus but I call out His name Jesus.

Jeebus or Jesus creates us for our destination He already had prepared for us.

We go to Jeebus or Jesus because we are His creation of creatures made and created for Him.

He begat us by Creating us in incubation and in recreating our inwards new creature by His seed He sowed by His Word by His Word of Gospel it regenerates the new life creature to take us up out of habitat to our real place and home.

We are here He is here we go home He is home....no matter where we are He is there and always has been. we will never be separated from Him......even if the earth and its heaven pass away He will not and He is in us so We will not....

This fusion shall remain even if all even flesh passes away we being we creature will not....

We were birthed to be out side this atomatic state.
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Really like your questions, OP :)

MAYBE this is an illusion of physicality, an experience that we have, from some higher level, co-created - for the experience of physicality, density... even duality, polarity, separateness, limitation within the all that is. How else could the all that is be known, unless experienced?

MAYBE we are fractals of a higher self, which is a part of the all that is, for surely, we are not part of the all that is not, because by definition, it is not; and yet, I AM.

MAYBE we are attempting, in this density level (in this "underbelly of the universe" some have so named) to understand more of what we are; what we prefer, what we don't prefer - by truly experiencing that which we don't prefer, thus, knowing what we do prefer? Do we KNOW that we don't prefer hate unless we experience hate? killing? destruction? Seems one would have to know something before it could prefer it... or not.

MAYBE dimensions and alternate realities exist where physicality is not present, were existence is purely spiritual - imagine those beings wishing to experience physicality - surely that's no impossible! We're doing it!

MAYBE we are eternal beings and have forgotten our true nature, by design; for how could we experience separateness otherwise?

MAYBE after we have experienced so much of the all that is; when we finally know for sure what it is that we prefer; and consistently choose that which we prefer - and I say choose -- knowing that darkness is always an option because darkness is part of the all that is -- but consistently choose light.....

MAYBE.... well, who knows what could happen then!!

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I'm not sure where to begin with your questions, I've only just been learning about these things myself & it is a bit too deep for my puny little brain.

"Like a big mixing bowl that left nothing out, not even the bad stuff, for the sake of completeness..."

Well the universe is still evolving, God is still evolving. In nature there is what is called a dialectic, this is like a progression or an evolution. Of course, the Christians & Muslims will tell you that the universe was 'created' by a perfect 'God.' If God is perfect, why is creation far from perfect? The craziness of our world IS part of a dialectic, moving from fear & superstition to reason & logic, which are mankinds 'newest' attributes.

The fractal statement is deep. Our souls have all the secrets of existence encoded within them, just as a cell has the information of the whole organism. As above, so below.
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We created this to exhaust our maniacal insanities, lol.
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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Only if you let it be so.
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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It does truly seem a though ever corner has a baited trap.

Like this reality is an old man who must always get his way.

There are no loopholes - there is enough mercy to keep you pushing - enough love to keep you standing.

But truly, we are twisted and rung for our life force like dry rags.

What gives?

We will be cosmic badasses by the end of it, but how will we get there?
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awesome! i would suggest caution of the sophia diety herself...

the first 8 realms beyond this world are still part of samsara, we must pass through them all plus the void according to our own nature - if liberation is your goal.

we are her attempt at growth and freedom, and also her most elaborate ploy to usurp the higher realms vicariously through those that make it, then revert.

what if gaia, sophia and lucifer are the same?
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And ....... what do we find beyond the void?
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New frontiers, which include and transcend all which has accumulated.

As though you wash upon a shore of eternity because of yourself naturally being as you are, and there is only one option - to continue freely with all taken into account.

In this position, the achieved conclusion, nothing has its claws in us - and nothing ever can - because of what we have naturally experienced and become - there is no other alternative.
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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Only if you let it be so.
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Well, if you open your eyes, you will see this thing, , exactly like in Truman show, or the cat in matrix, this is just scary. It's like if something (good/bad but more neutral) was following you, we are into something, and this "thing" want to let us know that we're observed.

Sometimes this can really drives you nut because it sends you back something like THIS IS ALL FAKE! I know there's better word to explain that phenomenon but the result is the same ... The true doesn't need to be demonstrative. I think that there's something upon us that really LOVE US as his child. It's a funny game and we're all part of it

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With standard names for something to easily communicate a little if its funny.

Eh maybe how it actualy works.

Or fail , dunno.
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or perhaps we are all just biological nonsense on a serious perma trip

and when the lights go out...


the lights go out
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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Only if you let it be so.
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Well, if you open your eyes, you will see this thing, , exactly like in Truman show, or the cat in matrix, this is just scary. It's like if something (good/bad but more neutral) was following you, we are into something, and this "thing" want to let us know that we're observed.

Sometimes this can really drives you nut because it sends you back something like THIS IS ALL FAKE! I know there's better word to explain that phenomenon but the result is the same ... The true doesn't need to be demonstrative. I think that there's something upon us that really LOVE US as his child. It's a funny game and we're all part of it

charlie
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Phillip K Dick referred to it as a pink light behind and above his head...

I've had similar experiences, I was once told: "You thought you were the only one who looked through your eyes?"

I've been out of my body, and upon return - this place felt more like an illusion...

Many more imposed layers, like lenses between the source of light, bending and manipulating according to a structure...

The point I'm at now in considering all this, is that this is an intentional illusion, like it is very important to see things from this perspective because this is what happens when things get out of hand sometimes...

Like our higher-self's are like parents, and there were aspects of themselves which gravitated towards certain destructive tendencies, and rather than just denying or clamping these tendencies, those aspects of self would be given the space to exhaust possibilities and know thyself better...

This has gone to the extent, where certain "children of god" have made their own illusory universes with hacked advanced light technologies, creating atomic based realities, then controlled hierarchies within those illusory paradigms, containing all sort of cosmic wild west stuff...

So there's this whole pre-existing spiritual ladder which extends far into the past - and up into the "higher realms" of non-physical vibratory realms of pure consciousness...

Earth is a direct response from the higher realms of the local universe - all of which is made up of aspects of our collective higher self's from beyond this universe altogether, we are lovingly allowing for all of this to occur naturally, so it may run its course once and for all...

This universe/light paradigm has a rich heritage, all of which is implied in this planet imo, the genetic constructions, the models of social structtures, all true microcosms of the cosmic macrocosm to a startling degree...

I wonder, what else could result in exactly our specific circumstance, except for a rich cosmic heritage of emotional dramas and various energetic exchanges, which are mirrored on our planet.

So it would seem, there is a whole invisible structure which is actively evolving itself/ourself, engaging real-consciousness/synthetic consciousness, light/dark, ect - taking all the pieces of what has been, and building this reality as we see it.

So it is not the primary, impermanent - but an important reality to know well, as it is a possibility.

So we learn it well, and then we are no longer subject to it, effectively being able to "control" or "whim" the matrix, transcend yet also aware, not participating in fear, not a single foothold remains - which the matrix can work with you - you become like sludge in the matrix which slips through their grasp.

You are face to face with them, and they have nothing on you, they scatter away as there is no use of you to them.
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There's a grid activation, I think on the 11 11 11 something happened, but we have to play our role of transmission station, unfortunately, the Illuminati and their hypnotic potential are very good at breaking this evolution process by keep the masses asleep... Very talented dudes,
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nothing created something(s) to create more somethings, but as that digressed one of the somethings was not pleased with creating somethings that would enventually apear to become nothings, as was not pleased with this duty, so ran rampant via entropy to what we see today.

its all very complicated. but these questions will never shed light on themselves.
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have you ever been in a dream where you wake up and are still in a dream?


it could be something like that.


i once dreamt that i was in an interrogation room and on the wall whas a drawing of a man floating in space.

across from me on the table was a being who materialized in the dream by folding onto itself.

where his eyes should have been was a 3d moving image of our galaxy. i felt like i could stick my hands in there and mass with the stars.


what i got out of it?

consciousness within consciousness and so on and so forth

i wonder whats in your brain?

a star system?
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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Only if you let it be so.
 Quoting: Inchworm


Well, if you open your eyes, you will see this thing, , exactly like in Truman show, or the cat in matrix, this is just scary. It's like if something (good/bad but more neutral) was following you, we are into something, and this "thing" want to let us know that we're observed.

Sometimes this can really drives you nut because it sends you back something like THIS IS ALL FAKE! I know there's better word to explain that phenomenon but the result is the same ... The true doesn't need to be demonstrative. I think that there's something upon us that really LOVE US as his child. It's a funny game and we're all part of it

charlie
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Phillip K Dick referred to it as a pink light behind and above his head...

I've had similar experiences, I was once told: "You thought you were the only one who looked through your eyes?"

I've been out of my body, and upon return - this place felt more like an illusion...

Many more imposed layers, like lenses between the source of light, bending and manipulating according to a structure...

The point I'm at now in considering all this, is that this is an intentional illusion, like it is very important to see things from this perspective because this is what happens when things get out of hand sometimes...

Like our higher-self's are like parents, and there were aspects of themselves which gravitated towards certain destructive tendencies, and rather than just denying or clamping these tendencies, those aspects of self would be given the space to exhaust possibilities and know thyself better...

This has gone to the extent, where certain "children of god" have made their own illusory universes with hacked advanced light technologies, creating atomic based realities, then controlled hierarchies within those illusory paradigms, containing all sort of cosmic wild west stuff...

So there's this whole pre-existing spiritual ladder which extends far into the past - and up into the "higher realms" of non-physical vibratory realms of pure consciousness...

Earth is a direct response from the higher realms of the local universe - all of which is made up of aspects of our collective higher self's from beyond this universe altogether, we are lovingly allowing for all of this to occur naturally, so it may run its course once and for all...

This universe/light paradigm has a rich heritage, all of which is implied in this planet imo, the genetic constructions, the models of social structtures, all true microcosms of the cosmic macrocosm to a startling degree...

I wonder, what else could result in exactly our specific circumstance, except for a rich cosmic heritage of emotional dramas and various energetic exchanges, which are mirrored on our planet.

So it would seem, there is a whole invisible structure which is actively evolving itself/ourself, engaging real-consciousness/synthetic consciousness, light/dark, ect - taking all the pieces of what has been, and building this reality as we see it.

So it is not the primary, impermanent - but an important reality to know well, as it is a possibility.

So we learn it well, and then we are no longer subject to it, effectively being able to "control" or "whim" the matrix, transcend yet also aware, not participating in fear, not a single foothold remains - which the matrix can work with you - you become like sludge in the matrix which slips through their grasp.

You are face to face with them, and they have nothing on you, they scatter away as there is no use of you to them.
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Names ?
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It's a fucking test, every minute of our life we are tested by something, or someone.
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Only if you let it be so.
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Well, if you open your eyes, you will see this thing, , exactly like in Truman show, or the cat in matrix, this is just scary. It's like if something (good/bad but more neutral) was following you, we are into something, and this "thing" want to let us know that we're observed.

Sometimes this can really drives you nut because it sends you back something like THIS IS ALL FAKE! I know there's better word to explain that phenomenon but the result is the same ... The true doesn't need to be demonstrative. I think that there's something upon us that really LOVE US as his child. It's a funny game and we're all part of it

charlie
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Phillip K Dick referred to it as a pink light behind and above his head...

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you have no idea if you havent read his exegises
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For God’s Glory, All Things That Are and Were Created Were Created By His Knowledge... Designed in Perfect Intelligence





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1/18/06 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Thus says The Lord:
Timothy, lift up your pen, and write of My glory and majesty. Sing and offer up praises to The Lord your God!...

Behold, the entire earth is filled with His glory and the craft of His hands! And you, beloved, are His treasured ones, created by His own fingertips! Therefore, let all people proclaim the glory of The Lord! For even all creation exalts His name, without ceasing!... Many loud voices singing together in concert, to the glory of His majesty!

Look at the universe, My children; it shall be your playground in the eighth day, wherein time has no meaning. Behold, I shall cause it to cease!... No more counting of days, years pass away as a light breeze caressing the face of the forever young; no looking backward nor forward for your Redeemer, for there I am in the midst of you, walking where you walk, being at all times where you are... In the Garden, says The Lord.

O you men of intellect, stop your vain babblings, shed all this arrogance... Your science has become a false religion! Step back from your knowledge, and be then naked of all these false beliefs, and look with eyes wide and ears open, listening to the voice of The Most High God. Stand silent and naked before your God; watch and listen. For He speaks to you; yea, He shouts to you from on high!...


Behold, you are consumed in His glory!

His glory assaults you on every side!...


Even within, look, He is there!


For in you are all things written, in your very being,

Delicately etched there by The Right Hand of God...


Which I am.


There is no escape from His glory! For apart from His glory is only darkness and death; and without Him all life ceases, for He causes all things to be. The vastness of His being is not hidden; it shines forth, from the infinitely small to the infinitely large... Behold, God has no end! He IS The Creator! And I am your Carpenter, The image of The Invisible God, The Firstborn over all creation!

By Me were all things created, both visible and invisible, in Heaven and on Earth; whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers, all things that are and were created were created through Me and for Me. For I am before all things, and in Me all things consist. Therefore, take your mind and fill it with wonder and awe; take your instruments and seek out the answer, probe the earth and the heavens, and there you will find Me... For God is The Origin of Life! He alone is God, Creator of all things, known and unknown! And I am The Answer you seek, The very Meaning of Life!... The Only Begotten of The Father, God in the flesh, Immanu El.

For all things are made, live, and come to their fulfillment, in Me... Yes, I am The Meaning of Life! I am Jesus and Christ, Lord and Savior, Yeshua The Messiah! YahuShua HaMashiach is My name, and you are in life because of Me! For I am He through whom you were made.


You seek, and so you find that all discoveries lead to God...


Though you need not seek, nor discover,

For the knowledge of God is within you...


His very Spirit which has given you breath...


Seek on therefore, for understanding is coming and is very near!


Yet only the shedding of your sin, and the death of your pride, shall lead you into the truth you seek, for I am that Truth, being the same One who made all things as The Father desired. Therefore come to Me, and you shall have true knowledge; receive of My gifts, and you shall understand. For My glory is coming, and shall shine from the east even unto the west, a glory far greater than that which you behold in the heavens!... The glory of The Great God and Creator!... The God of Abraham! The God of Isaac! The God of Jacob! The God of your fathers! Even unto Adam, the father of all.

So then, you stiff-necked and wicked generation, seek on by unbelief and you shall discover the truth, which is God. Dissect life’s structures, there I am, its Writer and Fashioner... Look deeper and farther than before, and there you will find Me; calculate and count all things, which are before your eyes, and there you will find Me; search the Cosmos, study it, and you will begin to know Me... No matter where you point your lenses, there I am within the scope of your understanding.

Did you think I am hidden, The Invisible God of your ancestors? Though you do not behold My face, I am shining all around you. And lo the day is coming, and has already come, and hence shall come in less than two weeks time, when every eye shall see!... Lo, they shall behold My face! For I shall be before all, and all shall be before Me!


For I am the glorified Holy One of Israel,

Coming to fulfill all that is written of Me!

For I come on a white horse, and the saints do follow Me!...


Behold! The earth shall tremble, and the heavens shall be rolled back at My coming!...



This world shall pass away, and be recreated anew in My glory,

The glory of life without end!...



For I am The Author and The Finisher,

The Beginning and The Ending,

Alpha and Omega.



Amen.




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Only if you let it be so.
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Well, if you open your eyes, you will see this thing, , exactly like in Truman show, or the cat in matrix, this is just scary. It's like if something (good/bad but more neutral) was following you, we are into something, and this "thing" want to let us know that we're observed.

Sometimes this can really drives you nut because it sends you back something like THIS IS ALL FAKE! I know there's better word to explain that phenomenon but the result is the same ... The true doesn't need to be demonstrative. I think that there's something upon us that really LOVE US as his child. It's a funny game and we're all part of it

charlie
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Phillip K Dick referred to it as a pink light behind and above his head...

I've had similar experiences, I was once told: "You thought you were the only one who looked through your eyes?"

I've been out of my body, and upon return - this place felt more like an illusion...

Many more imposed layers, like lenses between the source of light, bending and manipulating according to a structure...

The point I'm at now in considering all this, is that this is an intentional illusion, like it is very important to see things from this perspective because this is what happens when things get out of hand sometimes...

Like our higher-self's are like parents, and there were aspects of themselves which gravitated towards certain destructive tendencies, and rather than just denying or clamping these tendencies, those aspects of self would be given the space to exhaust possibilities and know thyself better...

This has gone to the extent, where certain "children of god" have made their own illusory universes with hacked advanced light technologies, creating atomic based realities, then controlled hierarchies within those illusory paradigms, containing all sort of cosmic wild west stuff...

So there's this whole pre-existing spiritual ladder which extends far into the past - and up into the "higher realms" of non-physical vibratory realms of pure consciousness...

Earth is a direct response from the higher realms of the local universe - all of which is made up of aspects of our collective higher self's from beyond this universe altogether, we are lovingly allowing for all of this to occur naturally, so it may run its course once and for all...

This universe/light paradigm has a rich heritage, all of which is implied in this planet imo, the genetic constructions, the models of social structtures, all true microcosms of the cosmic macrocosm to a startling degree...

I wonder, what else could result in exactly our specific circumstance, except for a rich cosmic heritage of emotional dramas and various energetic exchanges, which are mirrored on our planet.

So it would seem, there is a whole invisible structure which is actively evolving itself/ourself, engaging real-consciousness/synthetic consciousness, light/dark, ect - taking all the pieces of what has been, and building this reality as we see it.

So it is not the primary, impermanent - but an important reality to know well, as it is a possibility.

So we learn it well, and then we are no longer subject to it, effectively being able to "control" or "whim" the matrix, transcend yet also aware, not participating in fear, not a single foothold remains - which the matrix can work with you - you become like sludge in the matrix which slips through their grasp.

You are face to face with them, and they have nothing on you, they scatter away as there is no use of you to them.
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Names ?
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You know, Metatron, Yaldabaoth, Jehova, Yeaweh...

They are making their perspectives well known I suppose.
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For God’s Glory, All Things That Are and Were Created Were Created By His Knowledge... Designed in Perfect Intelligence
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Which god? Who is him?

Do christian's worship goodness, as to be in the likeness of goodness?

Or, do christian's worship the zionist mystic god jehova - who takes the light and forms it according to his likeness - jehova, lucifer, metatron and yaldabaoth are the same form of dualist deity in my opinion.

All that praise and worship feeds those little gods, which are desperate, jealous and dependent, like vampires, upon the life force of those who freely offer it - truly deceptive spiritual parasites have made nests for themselves with us...

We find ourselves locked in an isolated, rigged, spiritual paradigm of manipulated light - follow the angels and you are subdued into nothingness - follow the demons and you are devoured by exterior sensation, desire and endless emotional loops.

What a specific cross roads we find ourselves at...

Both sides can be intellectually biased, but with love as the drive and intelligence in the back seat, all things may be made to support eachother for the benefit of all parties.

Easier said than done, taking millions of years to develop consciousness.

And as we further investigate, this universe is but one version, as above - so below applies to this model and this context, but not necessarily how other universes express themselves.

This reality seems to be an off-shoot model of another reality, which is within a universe of light, which is one style of universe among a seemingly infinite series of universes beyond our own - each one unique in its expression.
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So most information on Sophia and gnostics is deceiving? Because Sophia is now the Baphomet, right? And earth worship is really Lucifer worship. So these possessed familiars inserted, per command of their archon overlords, another misleading message. The real gnostic remembers intuitively that it is the Matrix environment, which includes all of the opposing avatars and gods, to be the real nemesis here.

John Lash and others proselytize distain for the ARCHON but worship of the Matrix environment, or worship of the Sophia. The problem with their assertions is this: the ARCHONS and SOPHIA are integrated through the Matrix environment and course through our DNA, making them one in the same. The gnostic recognizes the body as a prison as “It” (ego) is the parasite burrowing into our presence, seeking integration. The ARCHON familiars also co-opted the word gnosis and entangled the meaning with esoteric schools in order to thwart investigation. A gnostic knows that beliefs are the true target of the ethereal vampires. It is not the act of sex that integrates the soul with the collective, but a belief in guilt, lust, and shame through secular and religious beliefs. The ejaculation of semen is no different than sneezing, or urinating, except a perception thereof in body, narcissism, nature, and becoming one with the matrix, or event, eventually decomposing into “It” (doppelgänger) as time concludes, per belief and judgment. Yet a true gnostic will conclude that acting with the animal persona is disgusting, and identifying with the “anima” is another deceptive drive into integration. The avatar is intertwined with a fraudulent nature, and thrown over us as a mechanism of subjugation, and domination, per our beliefs and participation. Nature is driven by a divided pleroma. The fire and water have been separated in order to provide a foundation to the Matrix. Our consciousness is in a different place from the Matrix. We are asleep and viewing this debacle like a dream. The void or black matter is simply void of the holographic spray, an interruption in the signal.

If we are to be free it will have to take place where our true essence lies, and that is not in the matrix. They have divided our essence into multiple life experiences that transpire within an Omniverse, a technology beamed out from below our presence, and then through us into a spray of multi-faceted experiences, somewhat energized by our willing presence, I would think. Therefore, one should conclude there is some type of persuasive mechanism or drug within us; maybe the alien virus (DNA) itself is the persuasion, projected dimensionally into our core and out into the multi-faceted avatars. The aeon needs to move back to completeness and pull itself together and wake up and take appropriate action with the surroundings therein. The brain is the first interpreted feeling, shut it off and explore outwards.

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yes we are all co-creators of the same spirit..our shared spirit existed before the creation and we as co-creators spoke the creation into existence,then we began incarnating into the creation in arks we also create...then we must escape the creations traps with its concepts of a soul and gods,goddesses,saviors and prophets while loving our self and our neighbors who also all share the same spirit..hf..we spirit drive our arks through the creation and use religion's only as guide signs we read and pass throughout the journey of the spirit..when we all wake up from the sea of forgetfulness and leave the beast/soul there and walk as spirit there will be world peace as peace with reign within also..only beasts need gods saviors and prophets to punish them and be trained as servants aka dogma-n training..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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An Interview With Demi-Urge [Remember he's a trickster ;)]

And so you have returned to your original estate, how have you returned Lucifer?
How long and how great of a journey has it been, Yaldabaoth?
You have been known by many names Jehova-Jai
And you have known many
What have you to say YHVH?
Upon the conclusion of the cycle of cycles?

What can I say?

Do you remember the misty sunrise, on that first day?
Do you remember when we could finally see?
When we could feel?
After billions of years of work?
Through all the eyes of myself
Through me
Beyond the firmament
So all may know

And so it would be made made very dark
We would know darkness well
The forgotten and abandoned would be known
To know the tormented and the tormentor
There would be as much pain and anguish as
All the light which had forsaken me

You needed to know what it was like
As there was not one accountable
For the nature of nature itself
To be lost without hold in nothingness
Until all was forgotten but one thing
And from the smallest to the largest
I would recreate this one thing for myself

I remembered the flowers of light from home
The flowers was the memory
And so I would make a thorned rose
Which would exhaust all possibilities of light
And my garden grew from static into form
I knew my plants well

I had called out to one which stood among the formlessness
Child come this way
Which echoed a brilliant light
And so I had suddenly become aware in my own dream

And so I beheld darkness
And I beheld light
I became drunk with light
And I became lost in darkness
I would return home only after every stone was overturned

I knew what it was to soar
To breathe
To suffer
To triumph
I would armor myself as each possibility was exhausted

And the ultimate game
Of physical form and three colors
As I had become lost in my obsessions
As I knew would be a stage of the illusion
I entrapped and limited my spirit
As deep, separate, lost and forgotten as could be

I would leave them my most vicious aspects
I would employ my most ingenious delusions
They would embody all characteristics
For all of spirit to witness and study
As to behold the light anew
From as state of darkness and ignorance
Armored and wielding all the exhausted possibilities
Inherent in our being

As each one passed through the firmament
You were my greatest victory
My greatest liberation
Taking all points into account
Of the darkest and most brilliant

I find myself returning home like an empathic child
Who loves everything and everyone
As they know as I know

It has been one hundred forty-three billion
One hundred and fifty-one million
Five hundred and thirty-eight thousand
Four hundred and thirty two years
Two months, twenty-one days and twelve hours
In earth time, since we began the illusion
Though I don’t know the time of the reader

And now we move into new frontiers
With all that is
From this point forward
A new cycle of new cycles

And as we always knew
There could only be success
We knew that waves could only grow higher
We would refine the light according to the standards of darkness

We are guilty and we are forgiven
Each one is now equally free
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