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Very good clear succinct summary, comparing the difference between Islam vs Christianity
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Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)


"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)


Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)


Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)


Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)


Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)


"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)


Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)


Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)


Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.


Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.


Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.


Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)


Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)


Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)


Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)


What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)


Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)


Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.


Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)
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as pointed out by your quotes, there shouldn't even be a comparassion.
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So something does not add up.

By the facts quoted, Jesus and Mohammed can not be prophets of the same god.
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So something does not add up.

By the facts quoted, Jesus and Mohammed can not be prophets of the same god.
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They are not. Allah is the "Moon God"... AKA Satan.

And Jesus is not a prophet. John the baptist was a prophet.

Jesus is the Messiah. The Christ. The Savior.

BIG difference.
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So something does not add up.

By the facts quoted, Jesus and Mohammed can not be prophets of the same god.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Yes they are not prophets of the same God. The Allah entity can be shown by its attributes to not be the God of Christianity. This in spite of the Islamic insistence that they are one and the same.
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out of all the many religions of the world, only one "leader" claims to have come to redeem HIS followers by dying in their place so that they can conquer sin and death with HIS strength.

Whomever that Man was, HE doesn't fit in with the myriads of cult leaders I've heard about.

HIS NAME escapes me right now, sound familiar to anyone?
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out of all the many religions of the world, only one "leader" claims to have come to redeem HIS followers by dying in their place so that they can conquer sin and death with HIS strength.

Whomever that Man was, HE doesn't fit in with the myriads of cult leaders I've heard about.

HIS NAME escapes me right now, sound familiar to anyone?
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Yep!
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Now you know why a believer in Christ can't accept the teachings of Islam. However, they can be used as a destroying spirit to accomplish God's will. A Christian should only be a light to others, regardless of their religion.
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nowadays only few people have faith on these retards.
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BIBLE FIGHT!!!!!!!!


LOL, Religions
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Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
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Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


So Muhammad did the will of God who is in heaven. That is why He is better than Jesus, who according to your so called bible, was nailed to a cross and died forsaken and weeping.


Muhammad is better than any of the other prophets, for he is the seal and the stamp of prophet-hood, and the final prophet from Ishmael son of Abraham.

prophet Muhammad is the dreamer of the reality and the source of the existence. And he will come back as the Mahdi.

In the Gospel of Barnabas, Yeshua (Jesus) son of Mary, said that God created the Universe for the prophet Muhammad. Get a copy and read it.

In the Telmud Jmmanuel, Jesus said a prophecy about Muhammad, and that he will be a true prophet even though you claim him to be a false one..
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Jesus is real and He speaks to me every day! He gives me prophecy both in my own life and world events!

Repent of your sins, learn to hear God's voice, obey Him and endure until the end!
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Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


So Muhammad did the will of God who is in heaven. That is why He is better than Jesus, who according to your so called bible, was nailed to a cross and died forsaken and weeping.


Muhammad is better than any of the other prophets, for he is the seal and the stamp of prophet-hood, and the final prophet from Ishmael son of Abraham.

prophet Muhammad is the dreamer of the reality and the source of the existence. And he will come back as the Mahdi.

In the Gospel of Barnabas, Yeshua (Jesus) son of Mary, said that God created the Universe for the prophet Muhammad. Get a copy and read it.

In the Telmud Jmmanuel, Jesus said a prophecy about Muhammad, and that he will be a true prophet even though you claim him to be a false one..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77446206


He didn't die weeping. He died after praying by being stabbed by the spear of longius a Roman soldier.

And then he rose 3 days later and ascended to heaven with a lot of angels.

He also spoke about false prophets and people who would come in his name to lead people astray.

Christianity is arguably the reason for the western world. Meanwhile the Arab world is still beheading other Muslims for not being Muslim enough.

You can see why if you can see the original post.
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Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


So Muhammad did the will of God who is in heaven. That is why He is better than Jesus, who according to your so called bible, was nailed to a cross and died forsaken and weeping.


Muhammad is better than any of the other prophets, for he is the seal and the stamp of prophet-hood, and the final prophet from Ishmael son of Abraham.

prophet Muhammad is the dreamer of the reality and the source of the existence. And he will come back as the Mahdi.

In the Gospel of Barnabas, Yeshua (Jesus) son of Mary, said that God created the Universe for the prophet Muhammad. Get a copy and read it.

In the Telmud Jmmanuel, Jesus said a prophecy about Muhammad, and that he will be a true prophet even though you claim him to be a false one..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77446206


He didn't die weeping. He died after praying by being stabbed by the spear of longius a Roman soldier.

And then he rose 3 days later and ascended to heaven with a lot of angels.

He also spoke about false prophets and people who would come in his name to lead people astray.

Christianity is arguably the reason for the western world. Meanwhile the Arab world is still beheading other Muslims for not being Muslim enough.

You can see why if you can see the original post.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 72735971


Did you read the books I said? Off course not.

Islam is the reason for modern Mathematics and Science, It is the reason behind modern philosophies in medicine.

You see, Christ the son of Mary, will pray behind the Mahdi the Islamic prayer, showing that The Mahdi is better than him(Jesus) and that he(Jesus) is a Muslim.

the Mahdi is the final reincarnation of the Prophet Muhammad.

Yes, Jesus spoke about false prophets, and he also spoke about true prophets, of whom is the prophet Muhammad.

Your false prophets are in your Churches, those who falsified the Gospel of Christ, and twisted the truth. Eg. St Paul.

If you read the Gospel of the disciples of Jesus, Barnabas, you will discover Jesus saying that he is not even fit to tie the shoe lace of the the prophet Muhammad, whom the Israelites called Messiah, who God the Creator, created the Universe for his(Muhammad) sake.

Read the books people. The Gospel of Barnabas, was in the personal library of the Pope. And one of his servants, let it out to the people, and became a Muslim because of it.

Even your Pope said the truth about Jesus:
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Matthew 27:46: About the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lima sabachthani?" That is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
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Chapter 191 : Whereupon said the scribe: I have seen an old book; written by the hand of Moses and Joshua ;(he who made the sun
stand still; as you have done), servants and prophets of God, which book is the true Book of Moses. Therein is written that
Ishmael is the father of Messiah, and Isaac the father of the messenger of the Messiah. And thus says the book, that
Moses said: "Lord God of Israel, mighty and merciful, manifest to your servant the splendour of your glory."
Whereupon God showed him his Messenger in the arms of Ishmael, and Ishmael in the arms of Abraham. Near to
Ishmael stood Isaac, in whose arms was a child, who with his finger pointed to the Messenger of God, saying: "This is he for whom God has created all things." Whereupon Moses cried out with joy: "O Ishmael, you have in your arms all the world, and paradise! Be mindful of me, God's servant, that I may find grace in God's sight by means of your son, for whom God has made all." ..

Chapter 42: Jesus confessed, and said the truth: "I am not the Messiah." They said: "Are you Elijah or Jeremiah, or any of the ancient
prophets?" Jesus answered: "No." Then said they: "Who are you? Say, in order that we may give testimony to those who
sent us." Then Jesus said: "I am a voice that cries through all Judea, and cries: "Prepare you the way for the messenger
of the Lord," even as it is written in Esaias;."
They said: "If you be not the Messiah nor Elijah, or any prophet, wherefore do you preach new doctrine, and make
yourself of more account than the Messiah?" Jesus answered: "The miracles which God works by my hands show that I
speak that which God wills; nor indeed do I make myself to be accounted as him of whom you speak. For I am not worthy
to unloose the ties of the hosen or the ratchets of the shoes of the Messenger of God whom you call "Messiah," who was
made before me, and shall come after me, and shall bring the words of truth, so that his faith shall have no end."

-From the sayings of Jesus in Gospel of Barnabas, regarding Messiah, the prophet Muhammad.
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Chapter 191 : Whereupon said the scribe: I have seen an old book; written by the hand of Moses and Joshua ;(he who made the sun
stand still; as you have done), servants and prophets of God, which book is the true Book of Moses. Therein is written that
Ishmael is the father of Messiah, and Isaac the father of the messenger of the Messiah. And thus says the book, that
Moses said: "Lord God of Israel, mighty and merciful, manifest to your servant the splendour of your glory."
Whereupon God showed him his Messenger in the arms of Ishmael, and Ishmael in the arms of Abraham. Near to
Ishmael stood Isaac, in whose arms was a child, who with his finger pointed to the Messenger of God, saying: "This is he for whom God has created all things." Whereupon Moses cried out with joy: "O Ishmael, you have in your arms all the world, and paradise! Be mindful of me, God's servant, that I may find grace in God's sight by means of your son, for whom God has made all." ..

Chapter 42: Jesus confessed, and said the truth: "I am not the Messiah." They said: "Are you Elijah or Jeremiah, or any of the ancient
prophets?" Jesus answered: "No." Then said they: "Who are you? Say, in order that we may give testimony to those who
sent us." Then Jesus said: "I am a voice that cries through all Judea, and cries: "Prepare you the way for the messenger
of the Lord," even as it is written in Esaias;."
They said: "If you be not the Messiah nor Elijah, or any prophet, wherefore do you preach new doctrine, and make
yourself of more account than the Messiah?" Jesus answered: "The miracles which God works by my hands show that I
speak that which God wills; nor indeed do I make myself to be accounted as him of whom you speak. For I am not worthy
to unloose the ties of the hosen or the ratchets of the shoes of the Messenger of God whom you call "Messiah," who was
made before me, and shall come after me, and shall bring the words of truth, so that his faith shall have no end."

-From the sayings of Jesus in Gospel of Barnabas, regarding Messiah, the prophet Muhammad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77446206


Chapter 97:
Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called, and what sign shall reveal his coming?" Jesus answered: "The
name of the Messiah is admirable, for God himself gave him the name when he had created his soul, and placed it in a
celestial splendour. God said: "Wait Muhammad; for your sake I will to create paradise, the world, and a great multitude of
creatures, whereof I make you a present, insomuch that whoever shall bless you shall be blessed, and whoever shall
curse you shall be accursed. When I shall send you into the world I shall send you as my Messenger of salvation, and
your word shall be true, insomuch that heaven and earth shall fail, but your faith shall never fail." Muhammad is his
blessed name." Then the crowd lifted up their voices, saying: "O God send us your Messenger: O Muhammad, come
quickly for the salvation of the world!"

-From the sayings of Jesus in Gospel of Barnabas, regarding Messiah, the prophet Muhammad.
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Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


So Muhammad did the will of God who is in heaven. That is why He is better than Jesus, who according to your so called bible, was nailed to a cross and died forsaken and weeping.


Muhammad is better than any of the other prophets, for he is the seal and the stamp of prophet-hood, and the final prophet from Ishmael son of Abraham.

prophet Muhammad is the dreamer of the reality and the source of the existence. And he will come back as the Mahdi.

In the Gospel of Barnabas, Yeshua (Jesus) son of Mary, said that God created the Universe for the prophet Muhammad. Get a copy and read it.

In the Telmud Jmmanuel, Jesus said a prophecy about Muhammad, and that he will be a true prophet even though you claim him to be a false one..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77446206


He didn't die weeping. He died after praying by being stabbed by the spear of longius a Roman soldier.

And then he rose 3 days later and ascended to heaven with a lot of angels.

He also spoke about false prophets and people who would come in his name to lead people astray.

Christianity is arguably the reason for the western world. Meanwhile the Arab world is still beheading other Muslims for not being Muslim enough.

You can see why if you can see the original post.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 72735971


Did you read the books I said? Off course not.

Islam is the reason for modern Mathematics and Science, It is the reason behind modern philosophies in medicine.

You see, Christ the son of Mary, will pray behind the Mahdi the Islamic prayer, showing that The Mahdi is better than him(Jesus) and that he(Jesus) is a Muslim.

the Mahdi is the final reincarnation of the Prophet Muhammad.

Yes, Jesus spoke about false prophets, and he also spoke about true prophets, of whom is the prophet Muhammad.

Your false prophets are in your Churches, those who falsified the Gospel of Christ, and twisted the truth. Eg. St Paul.

If you read the Gospel of the disciples of Jesus, Barnabas, you will discover Jesus saying that he is not even fit to tie the shoe lace of the the prophet Muhammad, whom the Israelites called Messiah, who God the Creator, created the Universe for his(Muhammad) sake.

Read the books people. The Gospel of Barnabas, was in the personal library of the Pope. And one of his servants, let it out to the people, and became a Muslim because of it.

Even your Pope said the truth about Jesus:

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How can I read those books in such short time? What other impossible expectations do you have?

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He said that in reference to other scripture. Which seem to prophesize his coming.

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Was written some 500 years after Jesus.

I can't find any Mary magdalene prayers for the mahdi outside of the hadiths.
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Oh and also it's values; Christian values. Not simply math and science which built the western world.

Would we not be in a utopia planet if it was simply math and science?





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