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JUST-IN: Taiwan now Enters the Fight over Disputed Japan / China Islands

 
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JUST-IN: Taiwan now Enters the Fight over Disputed Japan / China Islands
Over 70 Taiwanese fishing vessels are heading for two disputed islands in the East China Sea to protest their nationalization by the Japanese government, Kyodo News reported.

The vessels left the port of Yilan in northeastern Taiwan earlier on Monday and are expected to be within 37 kilometers of the islands by 5 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Kyodo said.

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Taiwan-based Foxconn Technology, a major supplier for Apple, has halted production at a plant in northern China after a fight broke out among workers.

Foxconn confirmed that a "personal dispute" escalated into an incident involving about 2,000 workers, injuring 40 of them.

Police later dealt with the situation near the facility in Taiyuan, which employs about 79,000 workers.

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Much thanks for another pin!
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"JUST-IN: Taiwan now Enters the Fight over Disputed Japan / China Islands"

Typhoon Jelawat also00, with 4 category ships ..

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Oh, it just gets doomier by the day.

The mess this world is in seems to be coming to a head very quickly.







Morning Doorbert!!!



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Re: JUST-IN: Taiwan now Enters the Fight over Disputed Japan / China Islands
Over 70 Taiwanese fishing vessels are heading for two disputed islands in the East China Sea to protest their nationalization by the Japanese government, Kyodo News reported.

The vessels left the port of Yilan in northeastern Taiwan earlier on Monday and are expected to be within 37 kilometers of the islands by 5 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Kyodo said.

[link to en.rian.ru]
 Quoting: DoorBert



Taiwan has no real stake in it, but the side with the Japanese. Taiwan use the area because it is very rich in fishing. If China takes control of it, Taiwan will lose almost 40% of their food supply.
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And this one is serious. There will be a world war but i`m not sure from where it`ll start ?

I still have my favour on middle east, we are on fire.
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Hope someone is directing traffic around these uninhabited islands...
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Oh, it just gets doomier by the day.

The mess this world is in seems to be coming to a head very quickly.







Morning Doorbert!!!



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Morning Lady Jane

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Do I still need to go to work tomorrow?
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Taiwan-based Foxconn Technology, a major supplier for Apple, has halted production at a plant in northern China after a fight broke out among workers.

Foxconn confirmed that a "personal dispute" escalated into an incident involving about 2,000 workers, injuring 40 of them.

Police later dealt with the situation

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near the facility in Taiyuan, which employs about 79,000 workers.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Taiwan-based Foxconn Technology, a major supplier for Apple, has halted production at a plant in northern China after a fight broke out among workers.

Foxconn confirmed that a "personal dispute" escalated into an incident involving about 2,000 workers, injuring 40 of them.

Police later dealt with the situation near the facility in Taiyuan, which employs about 79,000 workers.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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LOL
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Taiwan-based Foxconn Technology, a major supplier for Apple, has halted production at a plant in northern China after a fight broke out among workers.

Foxconn confirmed that a "personal dispute" escalated into an incident involving about 2,000 workers, injuring 40 of them.

Police later dealt with the situation near the facility in Taiyuan, which employs about 79,000 workers.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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A "personal dispute" between 2000 workers? spock
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Over 70 Taiwanese fishing vessels are heading for two disputed islands in the East China Sea to protest their nationalization by the Japanese government, Kyodo News reported.

The vessels left the port of Yilan in northeastern Taiwan earlier on Monday and are expected to be within 37 kilometers of the islands by 5 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Kyodo said.

[link to en.rian.ru]
 Quoting: DoorBert



Taiwan has no real stake in it, but the side with the Japanese. Taiwan use the area because it is very rich in fishing. If China takes control of it, Taiwan will lose almost 40% of their food supply.
 Quoting: 071676


This sounds like they are siding with CHina..
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Over 70 Taiwanese fishing vessels are heading for two disputed islands in the East China Sea to protest their nationalization by the Japanese government, Kyodo News reported.

The vessels left the port of Yilan in northeastern Taiwan earlier on Monday and are expected to be within 37 kilometers of the islands by 5 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Kyodo said.

[link to en.rian.ru]
 Quoting: DoorBert



Taiwan has no real stake in it, but the side with the Japanese. Taiwan use the area because it is very rich in fishing. If China takes control of it, Taiwan will lose almost 40% of their food supply.
 Quoting: 071676


This sounds like they are siding with CHina..
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"Taiwan"???

Dont you mean the UN?
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Oh come on now we really don't give a fuck...
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Tomorrow will be, the beginning of the end.

Yom Kapur.

Israel VS Iran war, will lead to the war whit Japan abd China.

So Eu and Us need to choose sides and India and Russia.

If nothing happens these coming 72 hours then im a fool.
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Re: JUST-IN: Taiwan now Enters the Fight over Disputed Japan / China Islands
Over 70 Taiwanese fishing vessels are heading for two disputed islands in the East China Sea to protest their nationalization by the Japanese government, Kyodo News reported.

The vessels left the port of Yilan in northeastern Taiwan earlier on Monday and are expected to be within 37 kilometers of the islands by 5 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Kyodo said.

[link to en.rian.ru]
 Quoting: DoorBert



Taiwan has no real stake in it, but the side with the Japanese. Taiwan use the area because it is very rich in fishing. If China takes control of it, Taiwan will lose almost 40% of their food supply.
 Quoting: 071676


Taiwan has EVERY stake in this. Allowing China to establish a foothold just north of Taiwan would be bad for its own security.
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Strange..

Looking at marinetraffic there are no ships near these islands.

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Over 70 Taiwanese fishing vessels are heading for two disputed islands in the East China Sea to protest their nationalization by the Japanese government, Kyodo News reported.

The vessels left the port of Yilan in northeastern Taiwan earlier on Monday and are expected to be within 37 kilometers of the islands by 5 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Kyodo said.

[link to en.rian.ru]
 Quoting: DoorBert



Taiwan has no real stake in it, but the side with the Japanese. Taiwan use the area because it is very rich in fishing. If China takes control of it, Taiwan will lose almost 40% of their food supply.
 Quoting: 071676


This sounds like they are siding with CHina..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24133979


NO....CHina has been wanting to take back Taiwan for a long time....Taiwan does not want this, therefore do not side with the Chinese.
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Tomorrow will be, the beginning of the end.

Yom Kapur.

Israel VS Iran war, will lead to the war whit Japan abd China.

So Eu and Us need to choose sides and India and Russia.

If nothing happens these coming 72 hours then im a fool.
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I vote you're a fool regardless.
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Hmmm... an island nation off the coast of China, upon which the mainland Chinese have long cast hungry eyes and awaited the chance to overtake...

... leap into action in support of China, and in opposition to another island nation off the coast of China, against whom the Chinese have longstanding antipathy???

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Hmmm... an island nation off the coast of China, upon which the mainland Chinese have long cast hungry eyes and awaited the chance to overtake...

... leap into action in support of China, and in opposition to another island nation off the coast of China, against whom the Chinese have longstanding antipathy???

scratching
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


Most of the Taiwanese came from mainland China after WW2. And they really, really don't care for Japanese, especially since their invasion of China was so harsh. Plus, sucking up to China might just save their ass, and Japan isn't able to do jack shit for them anyway. So, yeah, and given that the SAR Hong Kong is doing ok....and China is the new world 'superpower'....Japan who?
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Hmmm... an island nation off the coast of China, upon which the mainland Chinese have long cast hungry eyes and awaited the chance to overtake...

... leap into action in support of China, and in opposition to another island nation off the coast of China, against whom the Chinese have longstanding antipathy???

scratching
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


Most of the Taiwanese came from mainland China after WW2. And they really, really don't care for Japanese, especially since their invasion of China was so harsh. Plus, sucking up to China might just save their ass, and Japan isn't able to do jack shit for them anyway. So, yeah, and given that the SAR Hong Kong is doing ok....and China is the new world 'superpower'....Japan who?
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Ah so!

Makes sense now.
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This is the most boring conflict ever... a bunch of boats floating around and circling an island.
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Good! the more the merrier!!
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About the islands...


Going to keep it short and simple. This is years in the making.

Basically after WWII Japan and the US signed the treaty of San Francisco in 1951 along with 48 other nations, but at the time china was in a civil war and we did not want to take sides so no representative from china was invited. So in 1952 the treaty of Taipei was signed by Japan and China, formalizing the treaty of San Francisco.


This gave up japans rights to Taiwan “Formosa” and the 64 Paracel islands. This was a big deal to China because when Chiang Kai-shek retreaded out of china with his army he made his capital on Taiwan. Taiwan is the “Republic of China”. Not to be confused with China itself “The people’s republic of China”.

China could have cared less about these three little islands at the time. They just wanted to legally crush the remainder of the exiled government of china who created Taiwan.

But in 1968 China discovered that there were huge oil deposits under these three tiny islands. China claims they discovered the oil and owned the island sense the 14th century and japan annexed the islands in 1895 and lost control of them when they surrendered after WWII. America claimed legal rights to the islands and signed them over to japan in 1972 and at the same time japan dissolved the treaty of Taipei!

China was hoping to just get the islands handed over to them.

Now it gets sticky, China agrees the islands are part of Taiwan, and Taiwan agrees with that also. But Japan has no treaty with Taiwan and does not recognize it as a sovereign nation so legally the islands are part of Okinawa prefecture. Now the family that sold the islands to the Japanese government on September 11 2012 has legally owned them sense the beginning the 20th century when they first built a factory on the little islands.

But china considers it a violation of their territorial sovereignty now that they claim Taiwan as their own.


Here is the line in the Okinawa reversion treaty.


2. All other properties of the Government of the United States of America, existing in the Ryukyu Islands and the Daito Islands as of the date of entry into force of this Agreement and located outside the facilities and areas provided on that date in accordance with Article III of this Agreement, shall be transferred to the Government of Japan on that date, except for those that are located on the lands returned to the landowners concerned before the date of entry into force of this Agreement and for those the title to which will be retained by the Government of the United States of America after that date with the consent of the Government of Japan.

[link to www.niraikanai.wwma.net]

Because of this treaty one of the three disputed islands became U.S. military property and still is to this day.

Now you understand why we gave the land back to the original owners and not to the government itself. This is also why the treaty was signed in june of 1971 but did not take effect for over a year till after we gave the three islands back in 1972. They had to get everything set just the way we wanted it. The island is still part of the treaty so if the island is lost the treaty is broken.

Last Edited by Chrit on 09/24/2012 01:09 PM
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Decent post Chrit. Other posters need correcting tho: only around 20% of Taiwan residents are mainlanders and view it as one China ( including Mongolia). Most increasingly feel Taiwan is Taiwan and there is a respect for the Japanese days. Hong Kong is not still doing well..it is regressing due to mainlanders and becoming a less and less attractive example to the people of Taiwan

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