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CORONAL CAVITIES - Remember the Spheres Coming off the Sun? Along with Solar Prominences, They May be an Advanced CME Warning System

 
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CORONAL CAVITIES - Remember the Spheres Coming off the Sun? Along with Solar Prominences, They May be an Advanced CME Warning System
Orbiting Solar Fleet Peers Into Coronal Cavities

The sun's atmosphere dances. Giant columns of solar material - made of gas so hot that many of the electrons have been scorched off the atoms, turning it into a form of magnetized matter we call plasma - leap off the sun's surface, jumping and twisting. Sometimes these prominences of solar material, shoot off, escaping completely into space, other times they fall back down under their own weight.

The prominences are sometimes also the inner structure of a larger formation, appearing from the side almost as the filament inside a large light bulb. The bright structure around and above that light bulb is called a streamer, and the inside "empty" area is called a coronal prominence cavity.

...they [coronal prominence cavities] are an important one as they can be the starting point of what's called a coronal mass ejection, or CME.


[link to www.youtube.com]

..."When you see such a crisp clean shape like this, it's not an accident. That shape is telling you something about the physics of the magnetic fields creating it, and understanding those magnetic fields can also help us understand what's at the heart of CMEs."

...The cavity itself looked like a tunnel in a crescent shape, not unlike a hollow croissant.

Magnetic fields loop through the croissant in giant circles to support the shape, the way a slinky might look if it were narrower on the ends and tall in the middle - the entire thing draped in a sheath of thick plasma. The paper describing this three-dimensional morphology appeared in The Astrophysical Journal on Dec. 1, 2010.


[link to www.spacedaily.com]
[link to www.nasa.gov]

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Interesting,but maybe, is a bit iffy. Sorry. flower
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Interesting,but maybe, is a bit iffy. flower
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yep, very, very new science, so I imagine there are details and specifics that are now just being generalized. They do have instruments now that can measure the difference in density, temperature, etc. that lies within the cavities, and that lies without the cavities.

I stated in the other threads that these things may 'look' or behave like intelligent living things, because of the properties displayed by plasma.

Thread: 99.9% of the Universe Displays - Life-Like, Self-Organizing Properties, has Tendency to Form Cellular/Filamentary Structures - PLASMA
What is Plasma?

Plasma is the fourth state of matter. It differs from solids, liquids and gases in so far as it's atoms are divided into free-floating 'negative' electrons and 'positive' ions (an atom which has lost its electron/s). It is sometimes referred to as an ionized gas.

Students are generally taught about only three states of matter, and when Plasma does get a mention, little importance is assigned. Not only should plasma be added to the list, but the order should be reversed to put it in first place. The reasons for this will become clear.

The term Plasma was borrowed from blood plasma in order to describe its almost life-like and self-organising properties.

Plasma sometimes emits light when under the excitation of electrical and magnetic fields. Polar auroras bear witness to this fact.

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]
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Where is it?

Plasma is almost everywhere. At least ninety-nine percent of the known universe is, in fact, matter in its plasma state! The surface of the sun is plasma; not hot gas, which is quite a different thing.
Plasma in space consists entirely of ions and electrons, and is thus very energetic or 'hot'. Only when cooled does it form the matter to which we are familiar here on Earth: solids, liquids, and gases.

Because plasma remains electrically charged in space, it is influenced more by electromagnetic forces than gravity. In fact space, once considered mostly empty, has been found to be alive with plasma. Vast flows of charged particles have been discovered spanning hundreds-of-thousands of light years across interstellar space.

The most familiar examples of electrical plasmas here on earth are neon signs and lighting, television screens, and electrical arc welding machines. Fire and Lightning are also forms of Plasma.

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]
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Some behaviours and properties of Plasma

Plasma is an excellent conductor of electricity. Because of its free-flowing electrons its conductive properties far surpass those of copper and gold.

Due to its interaction with electromagnetism, plasmas display a complexity in structure far exceeding that of matter in gaseous, liquid, or solid states. It has a tendency to form into cellular and filamentary structures.

These structures derive from the fact that a charged particle flow (or current) produces a ring of magnetic fields around itself, 'pinching' plasma into multi-filamentary strands, as can be seen on both cosmic and more localised scales. Pictured right is a novelty plasma-lamp typical of those available on the high street.

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]
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The role of Plasma in The Universe

Plasma cosmology has gone beyond hypothesis and analysis. There are problems with part three, of course, experimentation on universal scales, but the fact is that plasmas are highly scalable, and super-computing capabilities have enabled us to model plasma behaviours on galactic scales ... utilising only a few simple formulae.
These models are consistent with reality. Big Bang cosmology, by contrast, fails to adequately account for the 'clumpiness' and filamentary structures that we observe.

Plasma cosmology does NOT rely on abstract mathematical modelling or an increasing array of exotic hypotheticals like Dark Matter and Dark Energy!

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Gee thanks Swing. that's my work cut out for the day. grinning
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Gee thanks Swing. that's my work cut out for the day. grinning
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Reading about the properties of plasma is actually pretty easy. It is an extremely complex system of interaction with itself, but can be explained in relatively simple ways.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Okay. I'll take your word for it! I'm off to research. ohyeah
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Looks like a giant living thing sucking energy out of the sun to me.
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Looks like a giant living thing sucking energy out of the sun to me.
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ohyeah

The term Plasma was borrowed from blood plasma in order to describe its almost life-like and self-organising properties.

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Looks like a giant living thing sucking energy out of the sun to me.
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ohyeah

The term Plasma was borrowed from blood plasma in order to describe its almost life-like and self-organising properties.
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Furthering the interesting aspects, is the idea that electromagnetism may be the thing that can 'hold' consciousness.

The universe is ALIVE.
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Great Information....

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yep
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Here is the paper on the phenomena:


THREE-DIMENSIONAL MORPHOLOGY OF A CORONAL PROMINENCE CAVITY

From these data it is clear that the prominence cavity is the limb manifestation of a longitudinally extended polar-crown filament channel...

...Perhaps the greatest strength of a forward-modeling approach is that it is possible to consider how a given three-dimensional structure like the cavity may appear from different vantage points and for different observables. The sensitivity of cavity visibility to viewing angle is considerable: changes of a few degrees in neutral line orientation and/or observer’s solar B angle are enough to obscure it.

[link to people.hao.ucar.edu]

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Uuuuuh , muuuuh uche ppfth ugh :\/_ kinda weird.
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:\/_/__l hole uche hoole ... Pluto uche upper orbit the rest dead uche must not notice big hole auw , uche.
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The sun's atmosphere dances.

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:)


My personal favorite 'Sun Dance'.

Twin tornadoes?

I see 3.


And the one in the middle being pulled by either side.



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Orbiting Solar Fleet Peers Into Coronal Cavities

The sun's atmosphere dances. Giant columns of solar material - made of gas so hot that many of the electrons have been scorched off the atoms, turning it into a form of magnetized matter we call plasma - leap off the sun's surface, jumping and twisting. Sometimes these prominences of solar material, shoot off, escaping completely into space, other times they fall back down under their own weight.

The prominences are sometimes also the inner structure of a larger formation, appearing from the side almost as the filament inside a large light bulb. The bright structure around and above that light bulb is called a streamer, and the inside "empty" area is called a coronal prominence cavity.

...they [coronal prominence cavities] are an important one as they can be the starting point of what's called a coronal mass ejection, or CME.


[link to www.youtube.com]

..."When you see such a crisp clean shape like this, it's not an accident. That shape is telling you something about the physics of the magnetic fields creating it, and understanding those magnetic fields can also help us understand what's at the heart of CMEs."

...The cavity itself looked like a tunnel in a crescent shape, not unlike a hollow croissant.

Magnetic fields loop through the croissant in giant circles to support the shape, the way a slinky might look if it were narrower on the ends and tall in the middle - the entire thing draped in a sheath of thick plasma. The paper describing this three-dimensional morphology appeared in The Astrophysical Journal on Dec. 1, 2010.


[link to www.spacedaily.com]
[link to www.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


That dark spot lower left looks like a jupiter-sized mothership recharging her batteries.
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Wow!!!

This thread is almost life-like,...

Almost self-organizing!!

woohoo


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OP; have you had opportunity to consider Solar Guardians info about multiple filaments simultaneously? He states that contact with denser areas of the plasma cloud will act as a magnetic glue keeping the filaments attached to the sun for longer periods.
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:\/_/__l hole uche hoole ... Pluto uche upper orbit the rest dead uche must not notice big hole auw , uche.
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I knew a girl who talked this way... with her mouth full banana2
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So this confirms that not only is plasma concious but all Suns as well as ALL Universes are intelligent.Which is what i have been saying.Im the 6 ether 9ether gas guy.The sun RE or should i say ALL has appointed these suns to regulate cycles,which this new sun cycle is about to do,coming with judgement to some and freedom and greatness to all others
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Great thread...i was looking for a simple explanation like this, since 2009, when first noticed the "black snakes" :
Thread: SUN: "Dark snakes" (coronal holes) on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 5 MONTHS , BUT GROWING hf
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:\/_/__l hole uche hoole ... Pluto uche upper orbit the rest dead uche must not notice big hole auw , uche.
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I knew a girl who talked this way... with her mouth full banana2
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Off topic. Funny as hell, off topic all the same :).
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Great thread...i was looking for a simple explanation like this, since 2009, when first noticed the "black snakes" :
Thread: SUN: "Dark snakes" (coronal holes) on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 5 MONTHS , BUT GROWING hf
 Quoting: Emerald_Glow 16339474

Re-reading my thread it seems, the coronal holes or cavities appeared in 2009 November the very first time on the Sun. No previous data or observation...
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Great thread...i was looking for a simple explanation like this, since 2009, when first noticed the "black snakes" :
Thread: SUN: "Dark snakes" (coronal holes) on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 5 MONTHS , BUT GROWING hf
 Quoting: Emerald_Glow 16339474

Re-reading my thread it seems, the coronal holes or cavities appeared in 2009 November the very first time on the Sun. No previous data or observation...
 Quoting: Emerald-Glow 16339474


If I am correct, it is because we didn't have the right tech looking at it. I may be off, but I believe that is the case.
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