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ANTI ISRAELI HYPOCRISY

 
*Heisenberg* (OP)

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I just wanted to point something out that I find a little funny.....well mostly sad....but kinda funny.

Here is a post from another thread, also a quoted reply of "bingo". Basically the thread was blaming Israel, and praising Iran and achmadananawhatever.

Re: 'UN should condemn Israel’s threats against Iran: Ahmadinejad'

Good post OP. the mods will never pin the truth ! They would rather keep on spreading the neg propaganda.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23568242

bingo


So, this AC thinks GLP's mods and Trin only pin propaganda, that they would never "pin the truth".

So why AC, do you come to a website, that in your opinion is purely about pushing propaganda? It's like yelling "fox news lies, fox news lies" Then tuning into the O'Reilly Factor every night. And don't give me the b.s line of "I come here for breaking news". Fox has breaking news also, so I don't buy it.

Then the other part that is funny, is that just because this AC and his "bingo buddy" disagree with some of the pinned threads, they MUST all be propaganda. Only they and fellow "thinkers" know the truth. Only those who blame Israel know the real truth.

I think you anti Israeli people have no idea what you are talking about. I know, the world is an effed up place. I know it makes a lot of you feel special, like you are pivvy to some hidden truth that will soon "come out", but do you realize what would happen to human rights in the middle east without Israel? Do you truly know what would happen to womens rights in the region? Maybe you do, and maybe you don't care?

You have no idea what you are advocating for when you call for Israels destruction. You think zionists are bad? If you had your wish, and Israel was gone, you obviously are oblivious to what would spring up in it's place.

Just my humbled opinion.

I'm sure I will get many vicious responses, but I still love ya anyway. And hope that someday, you can step back and see the forest for the trees.

rant

cheers

P.S I'll save you the trouble and just call myself a zioshill so we can get that out of the way.
chuckle
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*

OP, I agree with you. Israel is a shining light amounst darkness. I really dont understand why everyone is on the anti-Israel bandwagon. Could it be that our prez is also of that opinion? Maybe but some on here HATE him as well. Which then leads me to another question.
Why do the Jewish here support him so much if he, by his actions or lack thereof of Israeli support? I just dont get it.
 Quoting: Anita Pooporshart 18830457


Well said.

hf
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I know it makes a lot of you feel special, like you are pivvy to some hidden truth that will soon "come out", but do you realize what would happen to human rights in the middle east without Israel?
rant

cheers

P.S I'll save you the trouble and just call myself a zioshill so we can get that out of the way.
chuckle
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


HUMAN RIGHTS!?

You do realize that the author of the Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx, was Jewish - right?

Also, the Red Bolshevik Communist politburo that took over Russia after their Bolshevik Revolution were 98% Jewish. You do realize that - right?
 Quoting: DSL Connector


Hey shithead, you do realize that Marx wrote Das Kapital and never once mentioned the Rothschilds. That would seem to more than just an oversight on his part. If you read NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY, you will note that Communism was created to make a political/ economic philosophy that would favor an ensconced monied elite. Your poor grasp of history is speaking volumes. Did you take the short yellow bus to school?
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op, what the fuck is your point even if your trying to make one?

besides stirring up shit and banning users from your thread for disagreeing with you

everyone is entitled to their opinions, as im entitled to tell you what a typical piece of shit you are
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OP,
Personally I could care less if Israel is there or not. What I do care about and am sick of hearing about since the late 60's is how we always have to be there to help Israel with money, armaments or bandaids for their booboos. They are a sovereign state, not a US commonwealth or protectorate, let them act like it. If they're really sovereign, let them stop crying and finance their own delemas and leave us out of it. It's disgusting how we are made to pay tribute with millions and millions of dollars to the biggest cry babies on the planet. Man up and grow a pair.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24342391


1) They are a tiny tiny little country surrounded by enemies.

2)They are the only country in the region to promote womens rights, and natural human rights.

3)As for monetary aid, we give billions to pakistan and Egypt also....and they are burning our flags in the street...yet we shouldn't give any to our ally?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


1- Israeli citizens have historically got along just fine, with their Arab neighbors, until the Israeli government became too big for their britches.

2- Their women have to serve in the military; I see nothing "right" about that.

3- We shouldn't be giving aid to ~any of those countries; that's beside the point.
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op, what the fuck is your point even if your trying to make one?

besides stirring up shit and banning users from your thread for disagreeing with you

everyone is entitled to their opinions, as im entitled to tell you what a typical piece of shit you are
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Who did I ban for disagreeing with me? Please tell me that.

Don't know if you noticed, but there are plenty who don't agree with me here.....

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This sound obvious, but it's important to realize that within each of these countries are human beings who laugh, cry, struggle, and try to make a living and provide for their families. Don't fall into the trap of equating an entire people (of either Israel or Iran) with their leaders. God knows WE'D be in huge trouble here in the United States if people did that with us!!!
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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"when you call for Israels destruction"

Who's calling for their "destruction"? You are definitely paranoid.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


lol, that's all you got from that?

Typical.


But to answer, I have seen at least 10 posts, just today saying israel should be destroyed.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
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Whatever happened with the pinned Olympic doom threads?
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Whatever happened with the pinned Olympic doom threads?
 Quoting: DISCERN


The olympics passed, with no doom.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22
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this thread is garbage as is your reasoning or excuses or 'intellect', it is a hypocrisy within intself

what makes you any different or better then these so called 'anti israli' war mongers

you are they same, just the other side of the coin

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I am an American Jewish man. With that being said, the real jewish people like me despise the fake israeli jewish extremists pushing for war with iran and muslims. My family in Israel dislikes extremist christians more than iranians because christians assume they are more important to god than others, just like the zionistic fake jewish people in government. Get off your high horses. Any foolsupporting the Israeli government, is supporting satan. Instead support real jewish people, the ones protesting war in Israel.
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This sound obvious, but it's important to realize that within each of these countries are human beings who laugh, cry, struggle, and try to make a living and provide for their families. Don't fall into the trap of equating an entire people (of either Israel or Iran) with their leaders. God knows WE'D be in huge trouble here in the United States if people did that with us!!!
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


I completely agree with that!

Well said.
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"when you call for Israels destruction"

Who's calling for their "destruction"? You are definitely paranoid.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


lol, that's all you got from that?

Typical.


But to answer, I have seen at least 10 posts, just today saying israel should be destroyed.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
 Quoting: Valeria


You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
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"when you call for Israels destruction"

Who's calling for their "destruction"? You are definitely paranoid.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


lol, that's all you got from that?

Typical.


But to answer, I have seen at least 10 posts, just today saying israel should be destroyed.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
 Quoting: Valeria


You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


you just awnsered yourself with a question
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this thread is garbage as is your reasoning or excuses or 'intellect', it is a hypocrisy within intself

what makes you any different or better then these so called 'anti israli' war mongers

you are they same, just the other side of the coin

fool
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I see you couldn't answer my questions to you regarding your b.s claims.

Plus, if you don't like the thread, don't post. It's doing fine without you.
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The M.E. is a billion bee hive and lots of folks poking it with sticks. The result of that should not surprise anyone.
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lol, that's all you got from that?

Typical.


But to answer, I have seen at least 10 posts, just today saying israel should be destroyed.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
 Quoting: Valeria


You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


you just awnsered yourself with a question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17965061


lol, I thought you were just a hate filled person....but now I see you just can't read.
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Whatever happened with the pinned Olympic doom threads?
 Quoting: DISCERN


Dicern, are you trying to politely change the subject?

For all the inti Israeli supporters I have a Q.

I know why we hate Iran, and Syria, and the others. There are current reasons why (harboring terrorists, womens rights). What has Israel done to US? I al not being a smart ass, i really want to know what they have done. And yes, I was high in history class.
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I support children of Abraham....
I oppose Synagogue of satan....managed by Rothshilds.
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The Rabbis Speak Out: The 130 Year Record of Religious Jewish Opposition to Zionism

Introduction

The jewish people have always been religious people who lived with belief and trust in the Almighty. In their long history, they have gone through many different periods. There were times when they had their own land, sanctioned by the command of the Almighty. At other times, such as in the current era, they have been in exile.

In the course of the two thousand years of this current exile, following the destruction of the Temple, jewish people have remained faithful to the Almighty. Knowing that their exile was His will and His decree, they have always accepted it, and have not risen up to fight with other nations or dominate them. They have lived loyally under whatever governments they happened to live.

The past century has seen the rise of the Zionist philosophy, which transforms Judaism from a religion to a nationalism, from spirituality to materialism. (The word “Zion” was used by the prophets as a name for Jerusalem. The secular nationalists borrowed the name for their movement, whose goal was to take over Jerusalem.) The Zionists convinced a segment of world Jewry to leave behind their faith in the Almighty, not to trust in His security, and to take matters into their own hands. They forced their way out of exile and built a “Jewish” state. This act in itself was a severe violation of the Torah, which forbids jewish people to found their own state before the coming of the messiah.
The act is doubly sinful when we consider that they founded their state in the land already inhabited by the Palestinian people. They cruelly expelled, murdered and persecuted the Palestinians, and stole their land – all terrible crimes in the eyes of the Torah.

Zionism, starting from its founding day in the year 1897, aroused sharp condemnation from all the Rabbis, both in Palestine and around the world. All of religious Jewry was united in its opposition to this dangerous new movement, and fought it fiercely. The result was that Zionism took hold almost exclusively among non-religious jewish people. And were it not for the tremendous downfall of Jewry in the Second World War, Zionism could never have conquered any part of religious Jewry. In the War, which preceded the establishment of the Zionist state by only a few years, the Jewish people was torn to pieces and lost almost all its greatest Rabbinical leaders. Many jewish people lost their faith and felt defenseless and vulnerable, and they were taken in by the Zionists‟ promises to “defend the Jewish people.”

In this publication, we bring some excerpts from words of the Rabbis of past and present generations on Zionism. These are the Rabbis, giants of Judaism, by whose light religious jewish people walk to this day. As the reader will see, they were totally opposed to the ideology of Zionism, the existence of the State of “Israel”, the Zionists and all of their acts.

We must note that many of the rabbis quoted here lived before the founding of the Zionist state, and although the Zionists even then had a long record of cruelty and brutality to the Palestinians, their intentions and actions were not widely known. In fact, the Zionists took care to present themselves as a movement to purchase land and settle in Palestine, not as a movement to make wars with other peoples and displace them. Therefore, the rabbis of that period focused their opposition on the Zionists' violations of the Torah and their rebellion against the Almighty's decree of exile.

Even in the period after 1948, the Zionists' crimes against the indigenous people of Palestine received almost no coverage in the international media and thus most of the Rabbis did not know about them. In the State of “Israel” itself, the Zionists understandably did not want to arouse public opinion and therefore their media, for many years, did not report on the plight of the Palestinian people; they forcibly blacked out any coverage of their own atrocities. It has only been in the last two or three decades, starting approximately with the Lebanon War of 1982, that the Western world has gained an awareness of these issues. This awareness is reflected in the words of the Rabbis of the most recent period.

We hope and wait for the day when the Almighty's glory will be revealed, “the earth will be full of knowledge of the Almighty” (Isaiah 11:9) and “the Almighty will be king over all the earth” (Zachariah 14:9). Then there will be a spiritual revolution in the entire world, and the Almighty will redeem all Peoples, as we say in our prayers, “All the nations will become one organization to do Your will with their whole heart.” And in the words of the Psalms (102:23), “Nations and governments will gather together to serve the Almighty.” May it be soon, in our days, amen.

Rabbi Yehoshua Leib Diskin, rabbi of Brisk,Lithuaniaand later rabbi of Jerusalem (1817-1878)

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Great thread OP ! hf

One the eve of Yom Kippur I wish you G'mar Chatimah Tovah !
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"when you call for Israels destruction"

Who's calling for their "destruction"? You are definitely paranoid.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


lol, that's all you got from that?

Typical.


But to answer, I have seen at least 10 posts, just today saying israel should be destroyed.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
 Quoting: Valeria


You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Do you really think they're be anything left? Its much bigger than your precious Israel or Iran.
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I am an American Jewish man. With that being said, the real jewish people like me despise the fake israeli jewish extremists pushing for war with iran and muslims. My family in Israel dislikes extremist christians more than iranians because christians assume they are more important to god than others, just like the zionistic fake jewish people in government. Get off your high horses. Any foolsupporting the Israeli government, is supporting satan. Instead support real jewish people, the ones protesting war in Israel.
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Shalom ka.

hf
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Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
 Quoting: Valeria


You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


you just awnsered yourself with a question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17965061


lol, I thought you were just a hate filled person....but now I see you just can't read.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


and you just made it clear you cannot comprehend or compute a little cryptic response

though somehow you see whats going on in the world?

thanks to all the wonderful sources of 'information' we are exposed too, youve figured it out

dont think too hard
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Great thread OP ! hf

One the eve of Yom Kippur I wish you G'mar Chatimah Tovah !
 Quoting: subzero86


hf

Thank you.
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lol, that's all you got from that?

Typical.


But to answer, I have seen at least 10 posts, just today saying israel should be destroyed.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Not one person need say anything. Israel will destroy itself and I say, "Go for it!" Let their god protect them. Maybe that's what you read in those 10 other posts? And, while they're at it, Iran can do the same fuckin thing. Im from here, the U.S.A. Not from Israel, not from Iran, but the U. fuckin S. A. Let those two POS countries annihilate each other and everything in-between.
 Quoting: Valeria


You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


Do you really think they're be anything left? Its much bigger than your precious Israel or Iran.
 Quoting: Valeria


That's what some say I guess...
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The cult of atheist Zionism posing as Judaism

By Rich Siegel

This essay was first published in Beyond Tribal Loyalties: Personal Stories of Jewish Peace Activists. (Cambridge Scholars Publishing, 2012)

January 1, 2012

I consider myself a cult survivor. I was raised in the cult of Atheist-Zionism-Posing-as-Judaism. I stated this to a few select friends several years ago, and they thought it was funny. The statement brought with it a pregnant pause, as though a punch line was going to follow, as though I were telling a joke. No punch line. I'm serious. More recently, subsequent to Israel's 2006 Lebanon war and the massacre in Gaza of 2008-2009, I find that I can say this and it is taken seriously. People know that something is very seriously wrong with Israel, and with the culture that supports Israel. They may not understand it, but they're more open than they were.

My family's involvement with Zionism goes back to its beginnings. It includes a grandfather who fought with the Jewish Legion to "liberate" Palestine from the Turks in WWI, great-great-grandparents who went to Jerusalem for their retirement in the 1920's, the best buddy of an uncle who smuggled arms from Czechoslovakia to Jewish terrorist groups in Palestine in the lead-up to the 1948 war, grandparents who were officers in their local B'nai Brith1 chapter, and a cousin who was involved in "Operation Mural"2. He currently represents Jewish/Zionist NGOs at the United Nations office in Geneva. His wife writes Muslim-bashing books under a pseudonym.

During my childhood, Zionism and Israel were held up on a pedestal. They were central to our existence, our identity, our raison d'être. They were our sub-cultural equivalent of "Mom and apple pie". I grew up convinced that they were perfect and beyond reproach. There was simply nothing in my environment to indicate otherwise. Finding out that I had been lied to all my life, and that I had been supporting something that I would never have supported had I been told anything resembling the truth, has been absolutely shattering.

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You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


you just awnsered yourself with a question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17965061


lol, I thought you were just a hate filled person....but now I see you just can't read.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


and you just made it clear you cannot comprehend or compute a little cryptic response

though somehow you see whats going on in the world?

thanks to all the wonderful sources of 'information' we are exposed too, youve figured it out

dont think too hard
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I'll be just fine.

Thanks tho.

hf
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you just awnsered yourself with a question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17965061


lol, I thought you were just a hate filled person....but now I see you just can't read.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


and you just made it clear you cannot comprehend or compute a little cryptic response

though somehow you see whats going on in the world?

thanks to all the wonderful sources of 'information' we are exposed too, youve figured it out

dont think too hard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17965061


I'll be just fine.

Thanks tho.

hf
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


ignorance is blisspeace
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lol, I thought you were just a hate filled person....but now I see you just can't read.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


and you just made it clear you cannot comprehend or compute a little cryptic response

though somehow you see whats going on in the world?

thanks to all the wonderful sources of 'information' we are exposed too, youve figured it out

dont think too hard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17965061


I'll be just fine.

Thanks tho.

hf
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


ignorance is blisspeace
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Then I assume you are skipping through a meadow full of wildflowers.