ANTI ISRAELI HYPOCRISY

The olympics passed, with no doom.

this thread is garbage as is your reasoning or excuses or 'intellect', it is a hypocrisy within intself

what makes you any different or better then these so called 'anti israli' war mongers

you are they same, just the other side of the coin

fool

I am an American Jewish man. With that being said, the real jewish people like me despise the fake israeli jewish extremists pushing for war with iran and muslims. My family in Israel dislikes extremist christians more than iranians because christians assume they are more important to god than others, just like the zionistic fake jewish people in government. Get off your high horses. Any foolsupporting the Israeli government, is supporting satan. Instead support real jewish people, the ones protesting war in Israel.

I completely agree with that!

Well said.

You don't think the outcome of an Israel Iran war would effect us?

you just awnsered yourself with a question

I see you couldn't answer my questions to you regarding your b.s claims.

Plus, if you don't like the thread, don't post. It's doing fine without you.

The M.E. is a billion bee hive and lots of folks poking it with sticks. The result of that should not surprise anyone.

lol, I thought you were just a hate filled person....but now I see you just can't read.

Dicern, are you trying to politely change the subject?

For all the inti Israeli supporters I have a Q.

I know why we hate Iran, and Syria, and the others. There are current reasons why (harboring terrorists, womens rights). What has Israel done to US? I al not being a smart ass, i really want to know what they have done. And yes, I was high in history class.

I support children of Abraham....
I oppose Synagogue of satan....managed by Rothshilds.

The Rabbis Speak Out: The 130 Year Record of Religious Jewish Opposition to Zionism

Introduction

The jewish people have always been religious people who lived with belief and trust in the Almighty. In their long history, they have gone through many different periods. There were times when they had their own land, sanctioned by the command of the Almighty. At other times, such as in the current era, they have been in exile.

In the course of the two thousand years of this current exile, following the destruction of the Temple, jewish people have remained faithful to the Almighty. Knowing that their exile was His will and His decree, they have always accepted it, and have not risen up to fight with other nations or dominate them. They have lived loyally under whatever governments they happened to live.

The past century has seen the rise of the Zionist philosophy, which transforms Judaism from a religion to a nationalism, from spirituality to materialism. (The word “Zion” was used by the prophets as a name for Jerusalem. The secular nationalists borrowed the name for their movement, whose goal was to take over Jerusalem.) The Zionists convinced a segment of world Jewry to leave behind their faith in the Almighty, not to trust in His security, and to take matters into their own hands. They forced their way out of exile and built a “Jewish” state. This act in itself was a severe violation of the Torah, which forbids jewish people to found their own state before the coming of the messiah.
The act is doubly sinful when we consider that they founded their state in the land already inhabited by the Palestinian people. They cruelly expelled, murdered and persecuted the Palestinians, and stole their land – all terrible crimes in the eyes of the Torah.

Zionism, starting from its founding day in the year 1897, aroused sharp condemnation from all the Rabbis, both in Palestine and around the world. All of religious Jewry was united in its opposition to this dangerous new movement, and fought it fiercely. The result was that Zionism took hold almost exclusively among non-religious jewish people. And were it not for the tremendous downfall of Jewry in the Second World War, Zionism could never have conquered any part of religious Jewry. In the War, which preceded the establishment of the Zionist state by only a few years, the Jewish people was torn to pieces and lost almost all its greatest Rabbinical leaders. Many jewish people lost their faith and felt defenseless and vulnerable, and they were taken in by the Zionists‟ promises to “defend the Jewish people.”

In this publication, we bring some excerpts from words of the Rabbis of past and present generations on Zionism. These are the Rabbis, giants of Judaism, by whose light religious jewish people walk to this day. As the reader will see, they were totally opposed to the ideology of Zionism, the existence of the State of “Israel”, the Zionists and all of their acts.

We must note that many of the rabbis quoted here lived before the founding of the Zionist state, and although the Zionists even then had a long record of cruelty and brutality to the Palestinians, their intentions and actions were not widely known. In fact, the Zionists took care to present themselves as a movement to purchase land and settle in Palestine, not as a movement to make wars with other peoples and displace them. Therefore, the rabbis of that period focused their opposition on the Zionists' violations of the Torah and their rebellion against the Almighty's decree of exile.

Even in the period after 1948, the Zionists' crimes against the indigenous people of Palestine received almost no coverage in the international media and thus most of the Rabbis did not know about them. In the State of “Israel” itself, the Zionists understandably did not want to arouse public opinion and therefore their media, for many years, did not report on the plight of the Palestinian people; they forcibly blacked out any coverage of their own atrocities. It has only been in the last two or three decades, starting approximately with the Lebanon War of 1982, that the Western world has gained an awareness of these issues. This awareness is reflected in the words of the Rabbis of the most recent period.

We hope and wait for the day when the Almighty's glory will be revealed, “the earth will be full of knowledge of the Almighty” (Isaiah 11:9) and “the Almighty will be king over all the earth” (Zachariah 14:9). Then there will be a spiritual revolution in the entire world, and the Almighty will redeem all Peoples, as we say in our prayers, “All the nations will become one organization to do Your will with their whole heart.” And in the words of the Psalms (102:23), “Nations and governments will gather together to serve the Almighty.” May it be soon, in our days, amen.

Rabbi Yehoshua Leib Diskin, rabbi of Brisk,Lithuaniaand later rabbi of Jerusalem (1817-1878)

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Great thread OP !

One the eve of Yom Kippur I wish you G'mar Chatimah Tovah !

Do you really think they're be anything left? Its much bigger than your precious Israel or Iran.

Shalom ka.

and you just made it clear you cannot comprehend or compute a little cryptic response

though somehow you see whats going on in the world?

thanks to all the wonderful sources of 'information' we are exposed too, youve figured it out

dont think too hard

Thank you.

That's what some say I guess...

The cult of atheist Zionism posing as Judaism

By Rich Siegel

This essay was first published in Beyond Tribal Loyalties: Personal Stories of Jewish Peace Activists. (Cambridge Scholars Publishing, 2012)

January 1, 2012

I consider myself a cult survivor. I was raised in the cult of Atheist-Zionism-Posing-as-Judaism. I stated this to a few select friends several years ago, and they thought it was funny. The statement brought with it a pregnant pause, as though a punch line was going to follow, as though I were telling a joke. No punch line. I'm serious. More recently, subsequent to Israel's 2006 Lebanon war and the massacre in Gaza of 2008-2009, I find that I can say this and it is taken seriously. People know that something is very seriously wrong with Israel, and with the culture that supports Israel. They may not understand it, but they're more open than they were.

My family's involvement with Zionism goes back to its beginnings. It includes a grandfather who fought with the Jewish Legion to "liberate" Palestine from the Turks in WWI, great-great-grandparents who went to Jerusalem for their retirement in the 1920's, the best buddy of an uncle who smuggled arms from Czechoslovakia to Jewish terrorist groups in Palestine in the lead-up to the 1948 war, grandparents who were officers in their local B'nai Brith1 chapter, and a cousin who was involved in "Operation Mural"2. He currently represents Jewish/Zionist NGOs at the United Nations office in Geneva. His wife writes Muslim-bashing books under a pseudonym.

During my childhood, Zionism and Israel were held up on a pedestal. They were central to our existence, our identity, our raison d'être. They were our sub-cultural equivalent of "Mom and apple pie". I grew up convinced that they were perfect and beyond reproach. There was simply nothing in my environment to indicate otherwise. Finding out that I had been lied to all my life, and that I had been supporting something that I would never have supported had I been told anything resembling the truth, has been absolutely shattering.

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I'll be just fine.

Thanks tho.

ignorance is bliss

Then I assume you are skipping through a meadow full of wildflowers.

unlike the ones youve passed onto me

have fun frolicking

If Israel where going to do anything, they'd have done it already. They've puffed themselves up with this, "Help us, or suffer god's wrath" BS. Truth, they cant do anything without a bigger country on their side and the U.S.A. isnt budging. Squirmish here, squirmish there, and eventually the whole ME will ignite then there will be no human rights to worry about- just a bunch of fricken ash.

I think you are wrong. Israel will do it. Whether we help or not.

I hope not. I don't want war. But to most, if I say I stand with Israel, it means I am all for war against Iran. Although it is not the case.

Thanks!

Zioshill!

So, what exactly are you saying? If you're going to support a country, other than your own, then do it! Iran's ready while Israel runs around like a chicken with its head cut off. Example: walking out the UN. IF Israel feels they have a right to be there and Iran dont, who the fuck walks off their turf?

That's me

I'm kind of at a loss for words about that post.....you were all over the place there.