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IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?

 
WWJD With Numbers
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IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?
I understand how witchcraft is anti-christian. Numerology does not seem to call upon dark spirits, however. It is an observational kind of exercise. We don't worship it. We observe numbers and connect the dots. That's all.

Is this anti-christian?
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Did Jesus use numerology or anything close to it? Bible verses, if so...
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After all, one of the books of the Bible is called "Numbers" hello!
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Everything is anti Christian...so just go read the bible and get even freakier than you already are. If someone tries to make you dance or show you a naked picture, hold the bible up like a shield.
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No, Numerology is not 'anti-Christian'; neither is Witchcraft. However, Cristian is 'anti-numerology' and 'anti-witchcraft, as well as anti-jewish, anti-sex, anti-happiness, anti-joy, anti-islam, anti-buddhist, anti-cathar, anti-huguenot, anti-anything that is fun or good.

Why? Because it is a control religion.
Religion=To realign one's allegiance away from the Inner God Source and into a manmade religion by manmade gods; to discipline (punish) minds in such a way that they will NEVER look within, but only WITHOUT towards the controllers. This allows these very same controllers to use your attention energy.

Simply and sadly the truth of the matter...
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0 – (Zero) - GENESIS, which means, “first cause,” relates to the primordial source. The first few verses of Genesis pertain only to the one God, as divine creator, who brings the world into existence out of the void, or from the unmanifest.

1 – (One) - “LET THERE BE LIGHT” (Genesis 1:3). The first spiritual emanation was light. If our soul continues to follow the light, we will get back to our source. 1 stands for a beginning, a new start and unity.

2 – (Two) - “ . . .AND GOD DIVIDED the light from the darkness” (Genesis Symbology 1:4). In 2 there is duality, day and night, heaven and earth, man and woman and all pairs of opposites. Thus the development of choice began between good and evil, true and false and positive and negative. Pythagoras says, “2 is the imperfect condition into which ‘being’ falls, when it becomes detached from the monad, God.” Manly Hall in The Mystical Christ, states, “When the eyes of the both are opened, the sight of the soul is obscured.”

3 - (Three)- THE FIRST TRINITY—Adam and Eve and child. Thus 3 means Manifestation and expansion. Other trinities survive in our world-body, soul, and spirit, and the three divisions of Mind-conscious, subconscious and super-conscious.

4 - (Four)- MANY BIBLICAL REFERENCES are taken from the cycles of the natural world. The symbology of the four seasons and four winds is embodied in Ezekiel’s vision of the four living creatures—the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of an ox and the face of an eagle (Ezekiel 1:5-14). These four relate to the four fixed signs of the zodiac.

The four elements appear symbolically as the birds of the air, the fish of the sea, the fire of the Lord and the products of the earth. Genesis 2:10-14 tells of the “river out of Eden which parted into four heads.” The rivers were named Pison, Gihon, Hiddekel and Euphrates. Metaphysically these names mean spirit (fire), breath (air), body (earth) and blood (water). These symbolize spirit, mind, body and soul, which are the four principles that vitalize the material body during the earth life.

5 – (Five) - METAPHYSICALLY a “river” represents vital force. Human beings are the container of this force, as a “garden” symbolizes the body. The river of Genesis 2:10-14, described under number 4, represents the flow of humanity itself throughout the earth, which divides and divides until it covers all the earth. The 5 is the number of humanity with our five developed senses. The five senses are introduced in the early chapters of Genesis to indicate that the senses are essential in human creation; and therefore 5 is the number of humanity. Five plays an important part in the story of David and Goliath, “...and David chose five smooth stones out of the brook” and “David took a stone and smote the Philistine (Goliath) in the forehead. The stone sunk into the forehead and he fell to the ground, (I Samuel 17:40). The five stones represent the spiritualization of David’s senses. David believed in the indwelling God of love and had learned to depend upon the spiritual power within himself. According to a mystical legend, when David touched the five stones they became Old as one stone, thus combining the total powers of his senses. The name Testament Goliath means material power; thus the story is meant to demonstrate the power of the spiritual over the material.

6 –(Six) - THE PREPARATIONS for the emergence of humanity had all been made during the five days of creation, so on the sixth day, God made human beings. “In the image of God created He him, male and female created He them,” (Genesis 1:27). So 6 is associated with generation, motherhood, fatherhood, domesticity and service. Home, family and children are the concerns of 6; human relationships and love abound.

Moses, the first lawgiver, patterned the Ten Commandments after the Lord’s example of creating the universe in six days. “Six days shalt thou labor and do all thy work” (Exodus 20:9). Therefore 6 is related to labor and service, as shown by the sixth sign of the zodiac, Virgo.

Through love, the sixth sense is to be developed as people demonstrate their godliness. The Book of Ruth is keyed to the number 6 and to love. In Ruth 3:15, Boaz gives Ruth six measures of barley, symbolic of love and protection.

7 – (Seven) - IS THE PRINCIPLE NUMBER in the Bible; it is used in-numerable times (some say over three hundred sixty) throughout both the Old and New Testaments. “But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth..., and rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the seventh day and hallowed it” (Exodus 20:10-11). One of the most profound examples of the use of the symbolic number 7 is related to the fall of Jericho in the Book of Joshua, 6:1-20:

And the Lord said unto Joshua, “And ye shall compass the city... and go round about the city once. Thus shalt thou do six days. "...And the priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams’ horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.... When they make a long blast with the ram’s horn and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout, and the wall of the city shall fall down flat."

It becomes evident that the fall of Jericho was not by warfare but rather was by the principle of the 7. Victory was achieved by means of the positive vibration of sound, which had been built up to a tremendous power.

8 – (Eight)- THE MYSTERY of the 8 is that of eternal and continuous spiral motion, which is constant throughout the universe. The life force currents sweep through the body in the form of a figure 8 Symbology following the cerebro-spinal and the sympathetic nervous systems, like radiation’s of light. This is why in deep meditation one sees a real light within. The symbol, the horizontal 8, means “as above, so below. ”It is a symbol of power. In Genesis 17:10 the rite and covenant of circumcision was to be performed on the eighth day of a man-child’s life. This was considered one of the most important covenants between God and humanity.

9 – (Nine) - IS THE ULTIMATE, containing the forces of all the other numbers. It stands for a complete cycle of growth. The nine generations from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham indicate stages of growth and development. Noah was the ninth from Adam, and Abraham was the ninth from Noah. When Abram received his covenant from God and his new name, Abraham, he was “ninety and nine years old” (Genesis 17:1-5). Symbolically, his age reduces to a 9, to indicate that this was a period of time in which a spiritual cycle had been completed. The addition of the Hebrew Heh (H) to Abram’s name carries a 9 vibration as well.

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I find it interesting how Jesus came to distroy the church and said it would be just as screwed up when he comes back.

Anyone ever consider that Christianity might be the false prophet or the anti christ?


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Re: IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?
No.
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Re: IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?
Yes.


Numerology definition from wikipedia:

Numerology is the study of the purported mystical or esoteric relationship between numbers and the character or action of physical objects and living things.

Also, in the next páragraph:

Numerology and numerological divination were popular among early mathematicians such as Pythagoras, but are no longer considered to be part of mathematics and are now regarded as pseudomathematics by most mathematicians. This is similar to the historical development of astronomy from astrology, and that of chemistry from alchemy.


We all know the origins of esoterism, right? Now the question becomes: Is esoterism anti-christian?

This is an easy one.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of the world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." ~ Ephesians 6: 12

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Re: IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?
If you even ask yourself this question, it stems from anti-christ.
Anti-christ is denying that Jesus is the Christ (Savior)
If you believed that Jesus is the Savior, then you would not consider you're ability to be righteous by what you do or do not do? Jesus is either you're righteousness, or you are justifying yourself by the letter of the law.
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Re: IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?
kinda think imaginary numbers may be anti-christain

after all the sqaure root of any imaginary number is -1
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The Bible is filled with numerology from start to finish.

The Fundies just want a monopoly on numerology by trying to convince everyone else that numbers are evil.

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you have all meditated i assume. I say this as most of you are very knowledgeable in these areas.

when you meditate which way does your thought go...

have any of you tried to meditate as god would

thinking in all directions at the same time
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BTW the reason i ask

is god thinking 1-7

or is one thought simply divinding and multiplying then returning as one expanded thought
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God was the original mathmetician and always does things in 'numbers'. If you get caught up in what is 'Christian' and what isn't, you start getting into the 'law' and not 'grace'. Christians nowdays make too much of EVERYTHING!
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I think I will re-quote the meaning of numerology:


Numerology: the study of the purported mystical or esoteric relationship between numbers and the character or action of physical objects and living things.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of the world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." ~ Ephesians 6: 12

Merry Christmas all! May our Lord Jesus Christ be born into your hearts every day of your lifes!
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I find it interesting how Jesus came to distroy the church and said it would be just as screwed up when he comes back.

Anyone ever consider that Christianity might be the false prophet or the anti christ?




False Religion/Christianity is an antichrist. The Roman Catholic Church and those denominations that follow her Pagan teachings are not Christian. Anyone who denies Jesus Christ is the son of God is an antichrist.
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>I understand how witchcraft is anti-christian.

No, it isn'[t. It's just NON-Christian.

There IS a difference.


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Why look down at your feet when you really should be looking up at the sky.
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Re: IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is NUMEROLOGY Anti-Christian?
Why do we call the South Pole, North? And vice versa? The North end of the compass points SOUTH, not North!

Probably because Christians wanted to keep us confused. or is the North Pole Anti-Christian? Ya think? Or maybe the South Pole believes in a woman's right to choose.

Ah, but don't let it fret ya: The World is a magical, mystical place. And it is ONLY Christians who are forbidden to know that. Because if they found it out, they wouldn't stay Christians. Like me. ;-)
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In my opinion, nothing that seeks to find the connectedness of life is Anti-Love...which , if anything, one would think Christian is supposed to be.
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"Anyone who denies Jesus Christ is the son of God is an antichrist."

You really buy this crock? wow. These are words. just words. they are meaningless except that the mind places meaning on them. Your meanings are not going to be identical to someone elses.

The only thing that matters here or anywhere is how much real love you have in that small pocket just above your heart in the center of your chest. If you can teach yourself to think and live from there, the rest gets easy. And knowing who the Christ was and is becomes a very personal thing.

There is no need to go throwing down your gauntlet out here. What people carry in their hearts and what words they use to express it is their own business. By your statements, you don't appear to have a clue what Christ was nor is.
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