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SINKHOLE DOOM: Salt Dome Failure has been CONFIRMED!

 
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it turns out that Texas Brine rents these caverns out
for storage of chemicals. ....great.

well, and you can guess the rest.
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it turns out that Texas Brine rents these caverns out
for storage of chemicals. ....great.

well, and you can guess the rest.
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once we know the full scope of all these
caverns and what's in them, it could amount
to a bigger slow motion catastrophe than BP and the GOM.

wtf
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it turns out that Texas Brine rents these caverns out
for storage of chemicals. ....great.

well, and you can guess the rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757

once we know the full scope of all these
caverns and what's in them, it could amount
to a bigger slow motion catastrophe than BP and the GOM.

wtf
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or, is it that the state of Louisiana has sold its soul to the chemical industry?
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What’s at the bottom of the cavern? Radioactive material dumped in the cavern during the 1990s was “likely entombed at the bottom”

How much radioactive waste could be inside the cavern?
US Gov't: EPA specifically allows radioactive waste to be dumped in salt caverns -- Exempted from hazardous waste requirements

How radioactive is the waste inside the cavern?
Louisiana Sinkhole: Radioactive waste in cavern may have exceeded radiation limits -- Up to 20 cubic feet pumped inside

What’s the danger?
Chemical Expert: Residents will be exposed to extremely dangerous alpha radiation coming from sinkhole -- Radioactive dust inhaled after carried by wind, surface water

What has testing detected to date? Sinkhole: Radioactivity at 5,900 picocuries per kilogram from uranium and thorium floating on surface, about double background -- "Much higher levels of radiation" down deeper -- Residents' frustration growing (VIDEO)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Thank you.

This shit is pretty serious. If the cavern has failed, and it's salt, it will only continue to do so. Saltwater (brine) will slow the process but ultimately those walls WILL corrode completely and then what? WHy is there no mention of what seperates this cavern from the one containing butane, or any other neighboring wells? Is it rock, shale, clay, or just more salt??
 Quoting: Slick Vick


Actually in Texas and Louisiana the underground rocks are simple limestone deposits. Very porus. All the wells there are probably all messed up from before anyone notice the bubbles in the rivers.
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What’s at the bottom of the cavern? Radioactive material dumped in the cavern during the 1990s was “likely entombed at the bottom”

How much radioactive waste could be inside the cavern?
US Gov't: EPA specifically allows radioactive waste to be dumped in salt caverns -- Exempted from hazardous waste requirements

How radioactive is the waste inside the cavern?
Louisiana Sinkhole: Radioactive waste in cavern may have exceeded radiation limits -- Up to 20 cubic feet pumped inside

What’s the danger?
Chemical Expert: Residents will be exposed to extremely dangerous alpha radiation coming from sinkhole -- Radioactive dust inhaled after carried by wind, surface water

What has testing detected to date? Sinkhole: Radioactivity at 5,900 picocuries per kilogram from uranium and thorium floating on surface, about double background -- "Much higher levels of radiation" down deeper -- Residents' frustration growing (VIDEO)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Thank you.

This shit is pretty serious. If the cavern has failed, and it's salt, it will only continue to do so. Saltwater (brine) will slow the process but ultimately those walls WILL corrode completely and then what? WHy is there no mention of what seperates this cavern from the one containing butane, or any other neighboring wells? Is it rock, shale, clay, or just more salt??
 Quoting: Slick Vick


Actually in Texas and Louisiana the underground rocks are simple limestone deposits. Very porus. All the wells there are probably all messed up from before anyone notice the bubbles in the rivers.
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ohhhh, we are so screwed.....
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It was called the Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster.

Check it out. Oil rigs and salt mines together are not good.
 Quoting: FairiesWearBoots


Something not a lot of people know but Oil deposits are often ALWAYS found next to a salt dome.
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the whole damn state of louisiana has been done this way!
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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


it just thousand and thousand of tons of rock and salt
creaking and cracking and bumbing around.
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What’s at the bottom of the cavern? Radioactive material dumped in the cavern during the 1990s was “likely entombed at the bottom”

How much radioactive waste could be inside the cavern?
US Gov't: EPA specifically allows radioactive waste to be dumped in salt caverns -- Exempted from hazardous waste requirements

How radioactive is the waste inside the cavern?
Louisiana Sinkhole: Radioactive waste in cavern may have exceeded radiation limits -- Up to 20 cubic feet pumped inside

What’s the danger?
Chemical Expert: Residents will be exposed to extremely dangerous alpha radiation coming from sinkhole -- Radioactive dust inhaled after carried by wind, surface water

What has testing detected to date? Sinkhole: Radioactivity at 5,900 picocuries per kilogram from uranium and thorium floating on surface, about double background -- "Much higher levels of radiation" down deeper -- Residents' frustration growing (VIDEO)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Thank you.

This shit is pretty serious. If the cavern has failed, and it's salt, it will only continue to do so. Saltwater (brine) will slow the process but ultimately those walls WILL corrode completely and then what? WHy is there no mention of what seperates this cavern from the one containing butane, or any other neighboring wells? Is it rock, shale, clay, or just more salt??
 Quoting: Slick Vick


after looking through this thread, I don't think any one ever answered your question.
My understanding is it is salt only. they are suppused to pump some diesel fuel in on top of the water/brine to protect the ceiling from further erosion/collapse.

see img....
[link to www.freepatentsonline.com]

for a short course in "Design Considerations for Natural Gas Storage Caverns" see this pdf....

[link to www.southerngas.org]
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i think there was a news report on Corne local TV
that experts took measurements and found no evidence of any radiation.

but i don't believe it.
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Nuclear bomb test cavern in Mississippi salt dome....

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img found here...
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wonder if they use these "nuclear voids" for any type of storage?
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Nuclear bomb test cavern in Mississippi salt dome....

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img found here...
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wonder if they use these "nuclear voids" for any type of storage?
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there's no telling what these sleazebags are doing.
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The fluid used in fracking has a radioactive element which allows operators to pinpoint their position in the ground. This is radioactive waste and the caverns are used as legal depositories for this low-level waste.
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The fluid used in fracking has a radioactive element which allows operators to pinpoint their position in the ground. This is radioactive waste and the caverns are used as legal depositories for this low-level waste.
 Quoting: Waterbug


most here are aware of that...but what else are they dumping into these caverns, under the assumtion that they will never have to deal with it again?
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The fluid used in fracking has a radioactive element which allows operators to pinpoint their position in the ground. This is radioactive waste and the caverns are used as legal depositories for this low-level waste.
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"legal" by whose standards.....washington weasels or Gods?

Who gives us/them the right to defile our God given home?????
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Calling Gov. Jindal!!!!! where are you???? Notice how the Governor has been very silent and absent during this incident. How is he going to spin this?
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The fluid used in fracking has a radioactive element which allows operators to pinpoint their position in the ground. This is radioactive waste and the caverns are used as legal depositories for this low-level waste.
 Quoting: Waterbug


"legal" by whose standards.....washington weasels or Gods?

Who gives us/them the right to defile our God given home?????
yoda
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I don't know.

Maybe it was the same mother-fuckers who decided it was proper to inundate the entire planet with nuclear bombs, nuclear reactors, nuclear waste and system-wide environmental contamination..
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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
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And it grow ever larger!

9:00AM update:
Overnight, there was a 30’ x 50’ slough in on the SE side of the sinkhole (towards Texas Brine). The slough in took many trees and part of the road that was built to park excavators on to resume cleanup activities. This area has never sloughed in before as opposed to previous slough-ins that have taken place in the same spots along the embankment of the sinkhole.

Tests continue to be run in the cavern. Once any results are available, they will be shared.

A bubbling spot was observed on Bayou Drive in Pierre Part. DEQ will take samples today that will determine if this bubbling is natural gas or “swamp gas”. Monitoring was done by OEP and there were no harmful risks detected.

We will hold a resident briefing this Saturday, September 29, 2012 at 10:00 a.m. The location is tentatively set for here at the command post; however, the weather forecast may force us to move indoors. We will advise you with details closer to Saturday through blog posts and a notification phone call.

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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the
charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors)
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This guy has compiled a good collection of information and vids on sinkholes, cracks and quakes. Could be a clue to what is happening here.


Pattern Recognition: Dramatic Earth Change - Trying to make sense of odd seismic activity
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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the
charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


and all of that "off-key" stuff like the wavy lines
and stuff are just signal artifacts of one kind or
another. i'm betting the seismologists know exactly what quirk
is causing such things and they don't get excited about it.
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And it grow ever larger!

9:00AM update:
Overnight, there was a 30’ x 50’ slough in on the SE side of the sinkhole
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great post AC 1594. thanks for digging around and
find that kind of good stuff!

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