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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1512435 United States 09/26/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder?? Quoting: taniatarn [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site. [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23593671 United States 09/26/2012 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757 those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors. what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all. i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff, but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very very very small tremors) These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically".... I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain..... HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors) and all of that "off-key" stuff like the wavy lines and stuff are just signal artifacts of one kind or another. i'm betting the seismologists know exactly what quirk is causing such things and they don't get excited about it. certainly possible but given that very recently a usgs scientist said the types of tremors happening at the site were baffling (look it up, tons of threads on it) and since i've yet to see any info about how they've solved the mystery of the unusual quakes at the sinkhole then it's safe to say more oddness is likely also not understood at this time... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder?? Quoting: taniatarn [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site. [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though. these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath the measuring instrument. so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all. so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23593671 United States 09/26/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder?? Quoting: taniatarn [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site. [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though. these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath the measuring instrument. so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all. so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?) usgs has people there on site studying the odd earthquake activity and they're not sharing much info atm but, maybe they can't because they don't know i can accept that one usgs scientist admitted as much a week or so ago and that's fine i prefer being told "we don't know" rather than being lied to outright regardless, this stuff isn't stopping so time will tell :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder?? Quoting: taniatarn [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site. [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though. these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath the measuring instrument. so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all. so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?) so, what do the geologist know from these these readings? -- that the various rock structures in the cavern are moving around a little bit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder?? Quoting: taniatarn [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site. [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though. these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath the measuring instrument. so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all. so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?) usgs has people there on site studying the odd earthquake activity and they're not sharing much info atm but, maybe they can't because they don't know i can accept that one usgs scientist admitted as much a week or so ago and that's fine i prefer being told "we don't know" rather than being lied to outright regardless, this stuff isn't stopping so time will tell :) the USGS and Corps of Engineers and every other government agency high-tailed it outta there a long time ago -- they don't want anything to do with this can of worms! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23651594 United States 09/26/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it grow ever larger! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594 9:00AM update: Overnight, there was a 30’ x 50’ slough in on the SE side of the sinkhole great post AC 1594. thanks for digging around and find that kind of good stuff! You are welcome. We must keep our eyes on this. I sure wish someone would tell those people to leave! |
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pray_Italy User ID: 24457285 Italy 09/26/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu] Quoting: taniatarn those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors. what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all. i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff, but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very very very small tremors) These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically".... I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain..... HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors) Hey, would you mind pointing me to some charts showing this? Not saying they will be different, but if they would be similar then I would guess we could rapidly get some more insight about why these ripples show on THAT particular equipment. Just trying to help here.... The news of 9.00 am today are VERY bad IMO.... wonder when they will allow the chopper to flyover again.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it grow ever larger! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594 9:00AM update: Overnight, there was a 30’ x 50’ slough in on the SE side of the sinkhole great post AC 1594. thanks for digging around and find that kind of good stuff! You are welcome. We must keep our eyes on this. I sure wish someone would tell those people to leave! well the big story that i've heard is that they are going vent all the millions of cubic feet of gas into the atmosphere |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757 those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors. what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all. i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff, but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very very very small tremors) These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically".... I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain..... HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors) Hey, would you mind pointing me to some charts showing this? Not saying they will be different, but if they would be similar then I would guess we could rapidly get some more insight about why these ripples show on THAT particular equipment. Just trying to help here.... The news of 9.00 am today are VERY bad IMO.... wonder when they will allow the chopper to flyover again.... well, i just googled "yellowstone helicorder" and here's the station map for all the recorders. (note: click on the letters, not the red dot) [link to www.quake.utah.edu] |
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pray_Italy User ID: 24459527 Italy 09/26/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: pray_Italy These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically".... I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain..... HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors) Hey, would you mind pointing me to some charts showing this? Not saying they will be different, but if they would be similar then I would guess we could rapidly get some more insight about why these ripples show on THAT particular equipment. Just trying to help here.... The news of 9.00 am today are VERY bad IMO.... wonder when they will allow the chopper to flyover again.... well, i just googled "yellowstone helicorder" and here's the station map for all the recorders. (note: click on the letters, not the red dot) [link to www.quake.utah.edu] TY, just watching some of them although I cannot spot anything similar yet to the ripples recorded...... The enenews/breaking news apparently talks about the 30x50' ALREADY reported earlier (just do the math) ;) and would appear NOT to be a second event |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 09/26/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i want to know more about this project to vent all the Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757 natural gas in the cavern (and wherever it's coming from?) into the atmosphere. the last time i checked, natural gas is heavier than air. [link to www.truenergy.com.au] [snip] Natural gas is lighter than air, and this fact enhances its safety. Unlike other fuels such as diesel, petrol or LPG, which are heavier than air, should a natural gas leak occur, the gas will readily dissipate into the atmosphere. This eliminates the risk of the fuel accumulating or pooling at ground level and causing a greater risk or hazard. Natural gas will not explode in the presence of a flame until it reaches a very specific concentration in the air - below a certain level it is deemed too lean to burn and above a certain level it may be too rich to burn. Within a flammable range, the gas will ignite and may cause an explosion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just give everybody a million dollars each for Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757 their homes and let the damn salt dome collapse. sheeeesh. and if there's radioactive shit down there the more we can bury it the better. so, after the dome collapses we can just pump in concrete until she tops off. walla |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just give everybody a million dollars each for Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757 their homes and let the damn salt dome collapse. sheeeesh. and if there's radioactive shit down there the more we can bury it the better. so, after the dome collapses we can just pump in concrete until she tops off. walla then we'll have a nice pond, and we can put gold fish in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/26/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i want to know more about this project to vent all the Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757 natural gas in the cavern (and wherever it's coming from?) into the atmosphere. the last time i checked, natural gas is heavier than air. [link to www.truenergy.com.au] [snip] Natural gas is lighter than air, and this fact enhances its safety. Unlike other fuels such as diesel, petrol or LPG, which are heavier than air, should a natural gas leak occur, the gas will readily dissipate into the atmosphere. i stand corrected. after i posted that i had that sinking feeling that i was wrong... i was hoping that no one would notice :) |
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