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SINKHOLE DOOM: Salt Dome Failure has been CONFIRMED!

 
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The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder??

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though.
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Just an fyi, 20 cu ft= 148 gallons. 7.4 gallons/per cu ft.
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is this real?
No news coverage about this ever...... 1dunno1
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those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the
charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


and all of that "off-key" stuff like the wavy lines
and stuff are just signal artifacts of one kind or
another. i'm betting the seismologists know exactly what quirk
is causing such things and they don't get excited about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


certainly possible but given that very recently a usgs scientist said the types of tremors happening at the site were baffling (look it up, tons of threads on it) and since i've yet to see any info about how they've solved the mystery of the unusual quakes at the sinkhole then it's safe to say more oddness is likely also not understood at this time...
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The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder??

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435


these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath
the measuring instrument.

so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all.

so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?)
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The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder??

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435


these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath
the measuring instrument.

so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all.

so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


usgs has people there
on site
studying the odd earthquake activity
and they're not sharing much info atm
but, maybe they can't because they don't know
i can accept that
one usgs scientist admitted as much a week or so ago
and that's fine
i prefer being told "we don't know" rather than being lied to outright
regardless, this stuff isn't stopping so time will tell
:)
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The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder??

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435


these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath
the measuring instrument.

so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all.

so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


so, what do the geologist know from these these readings? --
that the various rock structures in the cavern are moving
around a little bit.
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The Earthquake in Mexico seems to have changed the nature of the readings on the Helicorder??

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


These "earthquakes" are not showing up on the usgs site.

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Which by itself says something. They show up on the heilocorder though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435


these are all very low-energy tremors directly beneath
the measuring instrument.

so small and low energy that someone with a helicorder 3 miles away wouldn't pick up anything at all.

so that's probably why USGS isn't picking it up (ya think?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


usgs has people there
on site
studying the odd earthquake activity
and they're not sharing much info atm
but, maybe they can't because they don't know
i can accept that
one usgs scientist admitted as much a week or so ago
and that's fine
i prefer being told "we don't know" rather than being lied to outright
regardless, this stuff isn't stopping so time will tell
:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23593671

the USGS and Corps of Engineers and every other government
agency high-tailed it outta there a long time ago --
they don't want anything to do with this can of worms!
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And it grow ever larger!

9:00AM update:
Overnight, there was a 30’ x 50’ slough in on the SE side of the sinkhole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594


great post AC 1594. thanks for digging around and
find that kind of good stuff!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


You are welcome. We must keep our eyes on this. I sure wish someone would tell those people to leave!
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09/26/2012 11:09 AM
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the rate of occurrence of these tremors has really
increase greatly in the past 2 hours.

this could be the big one. Cap'in, she's gonna blow!!!!!!
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09/26/2012 11:12 AM
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Its doing that strange curvy signal again...just a glitch in the machine?? [link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]
 Quoting: taniatarn


those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the
charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


Hey, would you mind pointing me to some charts showing this?
Not saying they will be different, but if they would be similar then I would guess we could rapidly get some more insight about why these ripples show on THAT particular equipment. Just trying to help here....

The news of 9.00 am today are VERY bad IMO.... wonder when they will allow the chopper to flyover again....
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And it grow ever larger!

9:00AM update:
Overnight, there was a 30’ x 50’ slough in on the SE side of the sinkhole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594


great post AC 1594. thanks for digging around and
find that kind of good stuff!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


You are welcome. We must keep our eyes on this. I sure wish someone would tell those people to leave!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594


well the big story that i've heard is that they are
going vent all the millions of cubic feet of gas into
the atmosphere wtf
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those are all extremely small (low energy) tremors.
what's noteworthy is that there are any tremors at all.

i've seen those charts do all sorts of kakamaimee stuff,
but the seismologists know how to interpret it all. big
trucks driving near the sensing unit can make the chart
dance around (but the big black spikes are definitely very
very very small tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the
charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


Hey, would you mind pointing me to some charts showing this?
Not saying they will be different, but if they would be similar then I would guess we could rapidly get some more insight about why these ripples show on THAT particular equipment. Just trying to help here....

The news of 9.00 am today are VERY bad IMO.... wonder when they will allow the chopper to flyover again....
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, i just googled "yellowstone helicorder"

and here's the station map for all the recorders.
(note: click on the letters, not the red dot)

[link to www.quake.utah.edu]
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BREAKING: New collapse, trees in, part of road in!!!!! 1,500 Sq. Ft GONE!!

[link to enenews.com]
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BREAKING: New collapse, trees in, part of road in!!!!! 1,500 Sq. Ft GONE!!

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24458863


no surprise there.
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i want to know more about this project to vent all the
natural gas in the cavern (and wherever it's coming from?)
into the atmosphere.

the last time i checked, natural gas is heavier than air.
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BREAKING: New collapse, trees in, part of road in!!!!! 1,500 Sq. Ft GONE!!

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24458863


no surprise there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


well, the helicorder is real time and up to the minute,
but it's not showing the collapse wtf
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BREAKING: New collapse, trees in, part of road in!!!!! 1,500 Sq. Ft GONE!!

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24458863


no surprise there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


well, the helicorder is real time and up to the minute,
but it's not showing the collapse wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


there should have been blue ink spilled all over that chart.
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These are DEF NOT tremors...... this is NOT a tremor.... this is something like a wave, ripple, corrugation, undulation or whatever you wanna name it "technically"....

I really hope that there is somebody physically messing with the equipment/machinery as SUCH MOVEMENTS otherwise appears very difficult to explain.....

HOWEVER, these "waves/ripples" are not over a short period of seconds, but rather enduring MINUTES instead, so the opinion of somebody actually HANDLING/WORKING with such equipment would be HIGLY appreciated as otherwise we are just speculating
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, excuuuuuse me. they look just like all the
charts you'll see at Jellystone (tremors and harmonic tremors)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


Hey, would you mind pointing me to some charts showing this?
Not saying they will be different, but if they would be similar then I would guess we could rapidly get some more insight about why these ripples show on THAT particular equipment. Just trying to help here....

The news of 9.00 am today are VERY bad IMO.... wonder when they will allow the chopper to flyover again....
 Quoting: pray_Italy

well, i just googled "yellowstone helicorder"

and here's the station map for all the recorders.
(note: click on the letters, not the red dot)

[link to www.quake.utah.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


TY, just watching some of them although I cannot spot anything similar yet to the ripples recorded......

The enenews/breaking news apparently talks about the 30x50' ALREADY reported earlier (just do the math) ;) and would appear NOT to be a second event
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The enenews/breaking news apparently talks about the 30x50' ALREADY reported earlier (just do the math) ;) and would appear NOT to be a second event
 Quoting: pray_Italy

from the evidence at hand, i would have to concur.
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something to share with you all to understand what is happening

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just give everybody a million dollars each for
their homes and let the damn salt dome collapse.


sheeeesh.
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i want to know more about this project to vent all the
natural gas in the cavern (and wherever it's coming from?)
into the atmosphere.

the last time i checked, natural gas is heavier than air.
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[link to www.truenergy.com.au]

[snip]

Natural gas is lighter than air, and this fact enhances its safety. Unlike other fuels such as diesel, petrol or LPG, which are heavier than air, should a natural gas leak occur, the gas will readily dissipate into the atmosphere. This eliminates the risk of the fuel accumulating or pooling at ground level and causing a greater risk or hazard.

Natural gas will not explode in the presence of a flame until it reaches a very specific concentration in the air - below a certain level it is deemed too lean to burn and above a certain level it may be too rich to burn. Within a flammable range, the gas will ignite and may cause an explosion.
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just give everybody a million dollars each for
their homes and let the damn salt dome collapse.


sheeeesh.
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and if there's radioactive shit down there the more we can bury it the better.
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just give everybody a million dollars each for
their homes and let the damn salt dome collapse.


sheeeesh.
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and if there's radioactive shit down there the more we can bury it the better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


so, after the dome collapses we can just pump in concrete until she tops off.

walla
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just give everybody a million dollars each for
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sheeeesh.
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and if there's radioactive shit down there the more we can bury it the better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


so, after the dome collapses we can just pump in concrete until she tops off.

walla
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then we'll have a nice pond, and we can put gold fish in.
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i want to know more about this project to vent all the
natural gas in the cavern (and wherever it's coming from?)
into the atmosphere.

the last time i checked, natural gas is heavier than air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425757


[link to www.truenergy.com.au]

[snip]

Natural gas is lighter than air, and this fact enhances its safety. Unlike other fuels such as diesel, petrol or LPG, which are heavier than air, should a natural gas leak occur, the gas will readily dissipate into the atmosphere.
 Quoting: Waterbug


i stand corrected. after i posted that i had that
sinking feeling that i was wrong... i was hoping that
no one would notice :)
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is this real?
No news coverage about this ever...... 1dunno1
 Quoting: Second Best


nope, not real. these people are making ALL of this up, just to show you how clever psy-op is. i mean if it were real it would be on the news. GLP'ers are crazy like that.

amazing, no?
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I would like to see if there are workers still on site.
When the helicopter picks them up, i think I would leave fast.
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is this real?
No news coverage about this ever...... 1dunno1
 Quoting: Second Best


nope, not real. these people are making ALL of this up, just to show you how clever psy-op is. i mean if it were real it would be on the news. GLP'ers are crazy like that.

amazing, no?
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