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Will racially prejudice people be accepted into God's kingdom?

 
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I've learned at GLP that God is a racist himself, so... sure, why not?
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Exactly.

Ezra 9:2 For they have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and for their sons, so that the holy race has intermingled with the peoples of the lands; indeed, the hands of the princes and the rulers have been foremost in this unfaithfulness. NASB, 1977
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I've learned at GLP that God is a racist himself, so... sure, why not?
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Exactly.

Ezra 9:2 For they have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and for their sons, so that the holy race has intermingled with the peoples of the lands; indeed, the hands of the princes and the rulers have been foremost in this unfaithfulness. NASB, 1977
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The Hebrews were told not become contaminated by demon worshiping people, that's what holy meant;
"At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him." Ac10:34 
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show me someone who is not a racist...
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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show me someone who is not a racist...
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Jehovah's international spiritual nation;
"After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
..... “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
.... They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” Rv7:9
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Thou shalt not commit adultery proscribes miscegenation.
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Thou shalt not commit adultery proscribes miscegenation.
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Gosh almighty, why don't you just say Thou shalt not commit adultery forbids marrying out of your race, or interracial marriage? Geez. And "how" does "thou" shalt not commit adultery" forbid anything except adultery? You saying marrying outside your race is adultery?
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Thou shalt not commit adultery proscribes miscegenation.
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Gosh almighty, why don't you just say Thou shalt not commit adultery forbids marrying out of your race, or interracial marriage? Geez. And "how" does "thou" shalt not commit adultery" forbid anything except adultery? You saying marrying outside your race is adultery?
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Yes, exactly so.

Thou shalt not covet refers to not being unfaithful to your spouse. Or is that redundant?
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Thou shalt not commit adultery proscribes miscegenation.
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Gosh almighty, why don't you just say Thou shalt not commit adultery forbids marrying out of your race, or interracial marriage? Geez. And "how" does "thou" shalt not commit adultery" forbid anything except adultery? You saying marrying outside your race is adultery?
 Quoting: Nine's


Yes, exactly so.

Thou shalt not covet refers to not being unfaithful to your spouse. Or is that redundant?
 Quoting: Elzop


How is marrying outside your race committing adultery? What is your basis for believing this?
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Thou shalt not commit adultery proscribes miscegenation.
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Gosh almighty, why don't you just say Thou shalt not commit adultery forbids marrying out of your race, or interracial marriage? Geez. And "how" does "thou" shalt not commit adultery" forbid anything except adultery? You saying marrying outside your race is adultery?
 Quoting: Nine's


Yes, exactly so.

Thou shalt not covet refers to not being unfaithful to your spouse. Or is that redundant?
 Quoting: Elzop


How is marrying outside your race committing adultery? What is your basis for believing this?
 Quoting: Nine's


How is it not?

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God himself was racist. Otherwise jesus would have been mullato.
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If God isn't racist then why did he create race?
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Will racially prejudice people be accepted into God's kingdom?
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We are already in Gods kingdom, Gods kingdom is his creation which we are a part.
We, in Gods kingdom must rise from low resonance of soul frequency to high resonance of soul frequency. We are limited beings to become multi density and dimensional beings.
Racism is not the reflection of the perfection of God, and therefore keeps the soul frequency low so that one cannot rise above the lower spectrum.
Racism is a form of self denial in that all things are connected and created from the one, it signifies ignorance and a lack of understanding in the creature, a lower thinking creature cannot rise above the consciousness of the mid fourth dimension because it keeps itself in separation and the illusion of difference and deservedness and unfamiliarity.
To be fully aware of the whole of God, one must behave like God, think like God, do like God, and separateness among the beings let alone God is not whole!
And recognising wholeness is recognising that all creatures created are equal.
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If God isn't racist then why did he create race?
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When you put a pencil in hand to put onto paper your design, do you limit that design, or do you put whatever it is your mind can possibly conceive?
God loves to create, Gods Sons love to create, why limit your creation if it is created with love it creates wondrous creations. It is man that is limits, God loves all his creations, they are beautiful and reflect the personality of our creator son.
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Not sure.
Jesus may not "know" anyone who
doesn't look and speak like him.

The American right believes in
a blue eyed blonde haired Jesus
who speaks English.
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Stand in silence in the presence of the Sovereign LORD, for the awesome day of the LORD's judgment has come. The LORD has prepared his people for a great slaughter and has chosen their executioners. "On that day of judgment," says the LORD, "I will punish the leaders and princes of Judah and all those following pagan customs. Yes, I will punish those who participate in pagan worship ceremonies, and those who steal and kill to fill their masters' homes with loot. "On that day," says the LORD, "a cry of alarm will come from the Fish Gate and echo throughout the newer Mishneh section of the city. And a great crashing sound will come from the surrounding hills. Wail in sorrow, all you who live in the market area, for all who buy and sell there will die. "I will search with lanterns in Jerusalem's darkest corners to find and punish those who sit contented in their sins, indifferent to the LORD, thinking he will do nothing at all to them. They are the very ones whose property will be plundered by the enemy, whose homes will be ransacked. They will never have a chance to live in the new homes they have built. They will never drink wine from the vineyards they have planted. "That terrible day of the LORD is near. Swiftly it comes – a day when strong men will cry bitterly. It is a day when the LORD's anger will be poured out. It is a day of terrible distress and anguish, a day of ruin and desolation, a day of darkness and gloom, of clouds, blackness, trumpet calls, and battle cries. Down go the walled cities and strongest battlements! "Because you have sinned against the LORD, I will make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path. Your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground." Your silver and gold will be of no use to you on that day of the LORD's anger. For the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy. He will make a terrifying end of all the people on earth. (Zephaniah 1:7:18 NLT)
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Gosh almighty, why don't you just say Thou shalt not commit adultery forbids marrying out of your race, or interracial marriage? Geez. And "how" does "thou" shalt not commit adultery" forbid anything except adultery? You saying marrying outside your race is adultery?
 Quoting: Nine's


Yes, exactly so.

Thou shalt not covet refers to not being unfaithful to your spouse. Or is that redundant?
 Quoting: Elzop


How is marrying outside your race committing adultery? What is your basis for believing this?
 Quoting: Nine's


How is it not?

[link to thetencommandmentsministry.us]
 Quoting: Elzop


Thank you for the link. It's appreciated, but I have a problem with articles that make a statement, uses one verse, ignoring the others around it and claim it supports thier statment. Because of that, I didn't continue reading becuase the entire first chapter used that method.

For instance, in this example, they say, "We are hearing much idle talk these days to the effect that there must be no such thing anywhere as "second class citizens.This nonsense is based on the assumption that God created all human beings equal in every respect, and that He has drawn no lines of distinction among them. But in the Bible we find inequalities that segregate into classes members of the same family, to say nothing about distinctive qualities of race and color. Not man but God decides a person's status in society."

Then they go on to say: "As the Psalmist declared:

"God is the judge: He putteth down one, and setteth up another." (Ps. 75:7)."

Isn't that scripture about wickedness and righteousness? Good and bad, and that God will put down the wickedness and favor righteousness? The verses following that one indicate to me that is exactly what is meant. Nothing to do with race.

If what your link supposes were true, how could these scriptures be explained?

“When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God” (Lev 19:33-34)

First Samuel 16:7b says, “The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”

If God doesn't look at the outward appearance, would he approve of us doing it?
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Yes, exactly so.

Thou shalt not covet refers to not being unfaithful to your spouse. Or is that redundant?
 Quoting: Elzop


How is marrying outside your race committing adultery? What is your basis for believing this?
 Quoting: Nine's


How is it not?

[link to thetencommandmentsministry.us]
 Quoting: Elzop


Thank you for the link. It's appreciated, but I have a problem with articles that make a statement, uses one verse, ignoring the others around it and claim it supports thier statment. Because of that, I didn't continue reading becuase the entire first chapter used that method.

For instance, in this example, they say, "We are hearing much idle talk these days to the effect that there must be no such thing anywhere as "second class citizens.This nonsense is based on the assumption that God created all human beings equal in every respect, and that He has drawn no lines of distinction among them. But in the Bible we find inequalities that segregate into classes members of the same family, to say nothing about distinctive qualities of race and color. Not man but God decides a person's status in society."

Then they go on to say: "As the Psalmist declared:

"God is the judge: He putteth down one, and setteth up another." (Ps. 75:7)."

Isn't that scripture about wickedness and righteousness? Good and bad, and that God will put down the wickedness and favor righteousness? The verses following that one indicate to me that is exactly what is meant. Nothing to do with race.

If what your link supposes were true, how could these scriptures be explained?

“When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God” (Lev 19:33-34)

First Samuel 16:7b says, “The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”

If God doesn't look at the outward appearance, would he approve of us doing it?
 Quoting: Nine's


Too much for you isn't it?

Deuteronomy 7:3-4

You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly.

Leviticus 19:19

“You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.


Nehemiah 13:3

As soon as the people heard the law, they separated from Israel all those of foreign descent.


Numbers 25:6-8

And behold, one of the people of Israel came and brought a Midianite woman to his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the people of Israel, while they were weeping in the entrance of the tent of meeting. When Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose and left the congregation and took a spear in his hand and went after the man of Israel into the chamber and pierced both of them, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly. Thus the plague on the people of Israel was stopped.

Deuteronomy 23:2

“No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord.

1 Peter 2:9

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

You're just playing dumb.
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How is marrying outside your race committing adultery? What is your basis for believing this?
 Quoting: Nine's


How is it not?

[link to thetencommandmentsministry.us]
 Quoting: Elzop


Thank you for the link. It's appreciated, but I have a problem with articles that make a statement, uses one verse, ignoring the others around it and claim it supports thier statment. Because of that, I didn't continue reading becuase the entire first chapter used that method.

For instance, in this example, they say, "We are hearing much idle talk these days to the effect that there must be no such thing anywhere as "second class citizens.This nonsense is based on the assumption that God created all human beings equal in every respect, and that He has drawn no lines of distinction among them. But in the Bible we find inequalities that segregate into classes members of the same family, to say nothing about distinctive qualities of race and color. Not man but God decides a person's status in society."

Then they go on to say: "As the Psalmist declared:

"God is the judge: He putteth down one, and setteth up another." (Ps. 75:7)."

Isn't that scripture about wickedness and righteousness? Good and bad, and that God will put down the wickedness and favor righteousness? The verses following that one indicate to me that is exactly what is meant. Nothing to do with race.

If what your link supposes were true, how could these scriptures be explained?

“When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God” (Lev 19:33-34)

First Samuel 16:7b says, “The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”

If God doesn't look at the outward appearance, would he approve of us doing it?
 Quoting: Nine's


Too much for you isn't it?

Deuteronomy 7:3-4

You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly.

Leviticus 19:19

“You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.


Nehemiah 13:3

As soon as the people heard the law, they separated from Israel all those of foreign descent.


Numbers 25:6-8

And behold, one of the people of Israel came and brought a Midianite woman to his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the people of Israel, while they were weeping in the entrance of the tent of meeting. When Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose and left the congregation and took a spear in his hand and went after the man of Israel into the chamber and pierced both of them, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly. Thus the plague on the people of Israel was stopped.

Deuteronomy 23:2

“No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord.

1 Peter 2:9

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

You're just playing dumb.
 Quoting: Elzop

Yes it is too much for me to believe that a God of love who created all people, regardless of skin color, would consider it adultery to marry someone with a different skin color. It's obviously too much for you to explain the two scriptures I offered.

Some relations were forbidden the Old Testament because of religious and cultural differences, not skin color.

You probably think that not becoming unevenly yoked with an unbeliever also means different race or skin color.

Since you think I'm playing dumb, I'll leave you to believe your way and I'll continue believing mine.

Have a nice evening.
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Thank you for the link. It's appreciated, but I have a problem with articles that make a statement, uses one verse, ignoring the others around it and claim it supports thier statment. Because of that, I didn't continue reading becuase the entire first chapter used that method.

For instance, in this example, they say, "We are hearing much idle talk these days to the effect that there must be no such thing anywhere as "second class citizens.This nonsense is based on the assumption that God created all human beings equal in every respect, and that He has drawn no lines of distinction among them. But in the Bible we find inequalities that segregate into classes members of the same family, to say nothing about distinctive qualities of race and color. Not man but God decides a person's status in society."

Then they go on to say: "As the Psalmist declared:

"God is the judge: He putteth down one, and setteth up another." (Ps. 75:7)."

Isn't that scripture about wickedness and righteousness? Good and bad, and that God will put down the wickedness and favor righteousness? The verses following that one indicate to me that is exactly what is meant. Nothing to do with race.

If what your link supposes were true, how could these scriptures be explained?

“When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God” (Lev 19:33-34)

First Samuel 16:7b says, “The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”

If God doesn't look at the outward appearance, would he approve of us doing it?
 Quoting: Nine's


Too much for you isn't it?

Deuteronomy 7:3-4

You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly.

Leviticus 19:19

“You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.


Nehemiah 13:3

As soon as the people heard the law, they separated from Israel all those of foreign descent.


Numbers 25:6-8

And behold, one of the people of Israel came and brought a Midianite woman to his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the people of Israel, while they were weeping in the entrance of the tent of meeting. When Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose and left the congregation and took a spear in his hand and went after the man of Israel into the chamber and pierced both of them, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly. Thus the plague on the people of Israel was stopped.

Deuteronomy 23:2

“No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord.

1 Peter 2:9

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

You're just playing dumb.
 Quoting: Elzop

Yes it is too much for me to believe that a God of love who created all people, regardless of skin color, would consider it adultery to marry someone with a different skin color. It's obviously too much for you to explain the two scriptures I offered.

Some relations were forbidden the Old Testament because of religious and cultural differences, not skin color.

You probably think that not becoming unevenly yoked with an unbeliever also means different race or skin color.

Since you think I'm playing dumb, I'll leave you to believe your way and I'll continue believing mine.

Have a nice evening.
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You are completely off base. You probably can also find deliberately mistranslated passages to rationalize anything you wish, including homosexuality, which God hates.

You wouldn't be a mamzer would you?

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You wouldn't be a mamzer would you?

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No, I'm not.
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jesus is white....

all of the apostles were white

i think that should clear it up
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White ppl go to heaven

Black ppl go to the great section 8 housing in the sky complete with all the EBT cards they can hold

BTW

white ppl pay for blk ppls heaven
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sho 'nuff
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You wouldn't be a mamzer would you?

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No, I'm not.
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Ok. You see it is about race when it comes to the Jews, they really discourage miscegenation although they promote it within contemporary Christian churches.

My apologies for being rude. I once believed as you do. I understand now that Christianity has been subverted. If you want to research more then look up 'Christian Identity".

Have a wonderful evening.
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You wouldn't be a mamzer would you?

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No, I'm not.
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Ok. You see it is about race when it comes to the Jews, they really discourage miscegenation although they promote it within contemporary Christian churches.

My apologies for being rude. I once believed as you do. I understand now that Christianity has been subverted. If you want to research more then look up 'Christian Identity".

Have a wonderful evening.
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No apology necessary. You have a nice evening too.

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