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AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!

 
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AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
Republican Jan Brewer's Re-Election Announcement Interrupted by Demonstrators

Activists Object to Her Recent Decision to Allow Unsecure, Hackable Diebold Voting Machines for Use in Virtually Every Arizona Precinct!

Perhaps it's a step up from "dissidents" as the AP once called them, but Election Transparency Advocates who turned out today at Arizona's Sec. of State Jan Brewer's speech to announce her re-election bid were labeled "anarchists" and "conspiracy theorists" by the woman who recently approved Diebold's flawed "AccuVote" touch-screen voting machines for use in virtually every precinct in the state.

During her speech today, according to the Arizona Star, "which boasted of the state getting rid of the last punch card ballots as part of her accomplishments since being elected in 2002 but one that never mentioned the Diebold contract" the Republican official in charge of ensuring free, fair and accurate elections in the state was repeatedly interrupted by advocates for transparent election who objected to the use of Diebold's failed machinery in the state.

Diebold's election equipment was recently shown to be hackable in a mock election test in Leon County, Florida, where the final results were completely flipped by computer security specialists. Over the summer, 20% of the same AccuVote touch-screen systems that Brewer approved on Friday, were found to have failed during a massive mock election test in California.

According to the Star, Brewer apparently dismissed the adamant concerns of the very voters she is (theoretically) in charge of serving:

Brewer, responding to media questions, called the noisy protestors "anarchists" and said they were off base.

"I don't think there is a problem with the Diebold equipment," she said. Brewer said a committee investigated the bids and the machines passed on the guidelines.

"I think that there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there that are trying to blow this completely, totally out of proportion," she said.

In December of 2004, while members of several political parties had joined in challenging the results of Ohio's disastrously run Presidential Election, the Associated Press referred to those challengers who dared seek transparency in an utterly gamed election as "dissidents" which prompted one dubious American to reportedly ask at the time, "Great! So now we're dissidents?! What's next -- 'insurgents'?!"

No. Apparently "what's next" is that those who wish transparency and oversight and accountability in American democratic elections are now "anarchists." At least according to Arizona's shameful -- and hopefully out-going -- Secretary of State, Jan Brewer.

A useful thought for those considering running for the office of Secretary of State around the country: "It's the voters, stupid."


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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
well, in truth, they ARE conspiracy theorists. They theorize that the electronic machines are part of a conspiracy to steal elections. NO?

Without, I might add, a shred of evidence that that assertion is true.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
bushfing"We're gonna cheat and win and you're gonna like it. NOW SHUT-UP and let us steal another one!"
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
AC 5855, it is not a theory if there really is a conspiracy.

There is a lot of evidence to prove that Diebold's voting machines are rigged, but you probably never saw any of it while you were watching FOXsnooze.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
soothsayer ... our understanding of gravity is still a theory. the big bang and evolution are still theories. quantum mechanics too. they might be PROVED some day, but not FACT yet.

same here.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
one thing i never understood about the conspiracy theories ... and you can pick which ever you want .... is that according to the theorists there is some shadowy, but powerful force that can manipulate elections, take over countries, move financial markets, hide alien moonbases ....whatever. but if they have the ability to doo all these things, why do they not have the power to shut down the websites that spill all their secrets? i don't get it.
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Open secrets are easier to keep, 5855.

You act as if all throughout history there have never been rigged elections, even in America.

You are in dire need of education, son.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
yeah Kennedy stole his presidency with the aid of the Chicago political machine.


oh, beleive me sooth ... i've read a bunch around GLP ... ive been educated and re-educated here. ( not that any of it stuck )
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"open secret" that like "jumbo shrimp"?
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This is very unfortunate.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
Education can be gained in many ways, and perhaps if you read any books since grade school you might be more aware of not only what events happen in the world but why they happen as well.

Parroting FOX propaganda that America is at war with the Middle East because "Muslims hate freedom and they were behind the 9/11 attacks" will not cut it in any intelligent discussion.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
5855--

What is YOUR PROOF that the Diebold voting machines and central tabulators are not hackable? And why go full-steam-ahead with a voting system that appears to have some security issues?

Should we not work out the kinks first, before large scale deployment?

It might be a good idea to have an independent random audit of districts that use electronic voting system in a REAL election. THis would serve to reassure the confidence the public has in these systems.

WARNING: BE WARY OF DISTRICTS THAT USE PAPERLESS SYSTEMS, BUT REFUSE TO CONDUCT EXIT POLLS.
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
voting, and wanting your vote to "count" is hardly anarchical

in fact anarchists hate one vote for each person
they would rather have chaos
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
when you go to a store you get a receipt, so, do you get a numbered receipt when you vote?

they should set up nonaffiliated counters of receipts (for those who want their vote to count)

and then they can compare to see how the percentages hold up, the receipts of votes vs the end results of the election

you can determine false results this way
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
paper is the common courtesy and necessary for recounts

It's common sense

There is no need to trust machines, they break

get over it, get paper

Your car doesn't work 100%, why would a central tabulator or any machine get more sympathy?
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
Dad we've Got to do something about them damn pesky voters.

No worries son, the fix is in<wink>
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Re: AZ Sec. of State Calls Transparent Election Advocates 'Anarchists', 'Conspiracy Theorists'!
When democracy has to rely on machines and not people to acknowledge who has the power, then the power is really within what counts the votes, not who casts the votes. The sheople are only there to show up to give a human face to the electronic system that gives their decision legitimacy, not their actual paper trail vote, the only hard copy proof that could be brought forth to recounted if needed was legitimate. This will just serve to never allow close elections to ever happen. This will never allow for a recount. Sheople are now just numbers on one bit of paper, instead of their chosen numbers being punched on many bits of paper. Their value in the (s)election process now has been reduced to mere ones bushfing and zeros s226, which are easier to manipulate.





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