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President Obama Declares The Future Must Not Belong to Practicing Christians...

 
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Catholicism is NOT true Christianity. Why can't people understand this? Even the least biblically knowledged should know this.
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Think of it this way..

Before the Birth of the USA, not one nation had any FREEDOM...Not a one...

That is why the USA was founded on Judeo CHristian Values which =FREEDOMS...

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You're mistaken.

Our founding fathers were religious in a sense, but not at all Christian.

(Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11)
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

And I'm not slandering your prophet or God, or belief system, but these evil men don't care about you or what you believe in. Nothing is sacred to them. The only thing they worship is the dollar.
State sanctioned religion is really just another form of control.
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All Nations were NOT FREE until Christianity...
 Quoting: christian


As I already told you, America was free BEFORE the murdering Christians got to her shores and slaughtered everyone. STFU!
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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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So Obama is saying that "the future" must not belong to anyone who insults the prophet of Islam?

Such as...Saying that Mohammad is NOT a true prophet of God? Like true Christians believe? To say that Mohammad is not a real prophet from God is insulting him to the Muslims who worship that man.

The converse of denying Mohammad is a true prophet (and therefore offending Muslims)...is to agree that Mo was a prophet...and in that case, one would have to then follow him and obey what the Muslims believe about him.

Not gonna happen for believing Christians, and probably for Hindus and Buddhists and others that don't believe Mohammad was a true prophet either.

Who put Obama in in the first place? No one knows where this guy really came from, who he really is, who paid for him or anything else. Our gov. didn't fully vet him, and everyone is covering for this guy.

TPTB who put him into position and are having him grovel Islam in must really be willing to spread'em wide for that oil and resources in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Observer114


Why do you'll keep saying Obama said "the future" must not belong to anyone who insults the prophet of Islam?"

Yet Obama just said the.. Coptic.. Chrisitans.. Chruch...as well as other religious people. He never said go get them Fido destroy their church's and their believers of their faiths..

Take a look at what he did say his Words not the ones anti-Western or anti-Coptic Christian or Christan or Jewish or any other.....that these other than Obama said.

That is putting words in Obama's mouth he did not say.
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Glp is famous for putting words in obamas mouth.
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ok so ... the FALSE PROPHET is here....


dont worry the ANTICHRIST will be here soon too...

and any true believers get there heads cut off..
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Do you understand that if Jesus is the head of the body, that you are already "be-headed"? Just something to meditate upon, chew the cud so to speak. I don't deny that thousands have and possibly will die from physical beheading, but an untold number more Christians, with Christ Jesus as their head, have alread been spiritually beheaded. Our lives are not our own.....
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The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied.
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Did he seriously list the holocaust together with the believe in christianity and islam? Does he seriously compare the questioning of the holocaust with the destroying of churches?

Is denying the holocaust already a blashpemy?

Is he insane?
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he is the antichrist!
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that is correct...
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I have fought this idea for some time....but ya know....I am begining to give it some weight
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Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt. It must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted, ``Muslims, Christians, we are one.'' The future must not belong to those who bully women. It must be shaped by girls who go to school and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons.
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In his speech to the United Nations General Assembly today the President of the United States declared that the future does not belong to practicing Christians. Already, the media and the left are in full denial, probably based on their general lack of understanding of theology. This would have been a gaffe had Mitt Romney said it. But with Barack Obama, he’s just speaking bold truths. His bold truth declares that the future does not belong to practicing Christians.

Pay careful attention to what he says.


The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims, and Shiite pilgrims. It is time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.” Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, and that is the vision we will support.

Now, that’s the full paragraph so no one can claim I took him out of context.

But consider this.

It is an orthodox Christian belief that Mohammed is not a prophet. Actual Christians, as opposed to many of the supposed Christians put up by the mainstream media, believe that Christ is the only way to salvation. Believing that is slandering Mohammed. That’s just a fact. If you don’t believe me, you go into the MIddle East and proclaim Christ is the way, the truth, and the life and see what happens to your life.

Then Barack Obama went on to say “Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied.” Note he says we cannot “slander the prophet of Islam” but it’s only the image of Christ in the next sentence — not actually Christ himself desecrated. If this is so, why does Barack Obama’s government continue funding the National Endowment for the Arts, which funded Christ in piss, the Virgin Mary painted in dung, etc.?

Now, in point of fact, this is a major difference between Islam and Christianity. Christ came to this world as an enemy of the world and expected to be impugned. He also tells his followers that they should expect to be impugned. There is joy in being persecuted for following the Risen Lord. In Islam, if you impugn Mohammed, you get a fatwa on your butt.

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Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.
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Muslims, Christians, we are one
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bummer is a pos.
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The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied.
 Quoting: christian


Did he seriously list the holocaust together with the believe in christianity and islam? Does he seriously compare the questioning of the holocaust with the destroying of churches?

Is denying the holocaust already a blashpemy?

Is he insane?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24445426


bump
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So he suggests that we turn it over to practicing savages?
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Yes that is what he thinks, since he is saying ISLAM has the **Same* values as the West...


Does the west have Honor Killings?

Does the West Stone Women?

Does the west in-prison people because of religion?

Does the West behead infidels?


Obozo is the Biggest LIAR America has ever seen in our White House.
 Quoting: christian


the bible says you can stone homosexuals and i am a christian.

RELIGIONTARDS never learn. it is all to divide the sheeple
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Dear lawd I hope the future does not belong to Christians or any other religion for that matter... You are all out of your minds.
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The Anti-Christ is here
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I am not particularly religious. My philosophy is to live by the golden rule. However, those of you that think Islam is a peaceful religion need to read the Koran. The main philosophical difference between all other religions & Islam is that Islamists are given the OK to lie, cheat, steal & murder all non-Islamists, if it promotes Islam. All other religions preach that it is NOT OK to lie, cheat, steal or murder anyone under any circumstance.

Thus, Islam is what it is. Fundamentally, they reward unacceptable behavior as long as it is done in the name of Islam.

Don't hate the messenger, hate the truth. READ THE KORAN. Then you will begin to understand why Islamists will never be able to live in peace with the rest of the non-Islamic world. Their fundamental beliefs do not promote peace & tolerance. Islam promotes conflict & intolerance of all non-believers, otherwise known as, Infidels. We, the Infidels, can not change Islamic beliefs, all we can do is attempt to control & confine. Strength without apologies. Hard to believe, but it is the truth. You must never trust an Islamist,alone if you are an Infidel.
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Obamas' a Gay Man from either Kenya or Indonesia.

The true power is in his TV 'Wife'.
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Behead the infidel Muslamic.


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And bewhere the Muslamic Ray Guns.
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Dear lawd I hope the future does not belong to Christians or any other religion for that matter... You are all out of your minds.
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Dear lawd I hope the future does not belong to Christians or any other religion for that matter... You are all out of your minds.
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We are with you Japan!
yoda

even if minority on this thread
we represent the majority in the world!


hf
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Live by the Golden Rule, that covers everything without the all the BS.hf
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So Obama is saying that "the future" must not belong to anyone who insults the prophet of Islam?

Such as...Saying that Mohammad is NOT a true prophet of God? Like true Christians believe? To say that Mohammad is not a real prophet from God is insulting him to the Muslims who worship that man.

The converse of denying Mohammad is a true prophet (and therefore offending Muslims)...is to agree that Mo was a prophet...and in that case, one would have to then follow him and obey what the Muslims believe about him.

Not gonna happen for believing Christians, and probably for Hindus and Buddhists and others that don't believe Mohammad was a true prophet either.

Who put Obama in in the first place? No one knows where this guy really came from, who he really is, who paid for him or anything else. Our gov. didn't fully vet him, and everyone is covering for this guy.

TPTB who put him into position and are having him grovel Islam in must really be willing to spread'em wide for that oil and resources in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Observer114


Why do you'll keep saying Obama said "the future" must not belong to anyone who insults the prophet of Islam?"

Yet Obama just said the.. Coptic.. Chrisitans.. Chruch...as well as other religious people. He never said go get them Fido destroy their church's and their believers of their faiths..

Take a look at what he did say his Words not the ones anti-Western or anti-Coptic Christian or Christan or Jewish or any other.....that these other than Obama said.

That is putting words in Obama's mouth he did not say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22054163


Glp is famous for putting words in obamas mouth.
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No, in this case, the OP is correct.
Read the transcript [link to foxnewsinsider.com]
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Obamas' a Gay Man from either Kenya or Indonesia.

The true power is in his TV 'Wife'.
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I don't know about anyone else, but Obama's "TV wife" disgusts me. After her statements regarding not being proud to be an American a while back, I can't even listen to any words she utters, I immediately turn her off. So, if he's depeneding on her power, he may be making a mistake.
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The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt. It must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted, ``Muslims, Christians, we are one.'' The future must not belong to those who bully women. It must be shaped by girls who go to school and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons.

(APPLAUSE)

The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country's resources. It must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the women and men that America stands with. There's is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

the actual transcript be careful who you quote there are many lies out right now
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Hopefully the future doesn't belong to anyone practicing any of the three Abrahamic religions.
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OP he did not say those words, once again you prove you are full of shit.
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So he suggests that we turn it over to practicing savages?
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...oops double post,see below posthf

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/26/2012 08:14 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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So he suggests that we turn it over to practicing savages?
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...he suggests you remember we are all of the same spirit instead of allowing religions to divide us...guess i need to remind you souls to leave it in the sea of forgetfulness and remember you have the spirit of the creator in the ark you call a body ,that we as spirit are driving around in the creation...you were not created ,you have always existed,and you existed before the creation,and its not a new age thing..the beast is the concept of a soul who sees a god ,goddess,prophet or savior separate from the spirit of us all and above us all...there is no j.e.w. or gentile or free or bond,we are all equal,sharing the same spirit of the creator...the spirit unites all,but religions of the creation divide...the reason the "bible" says if someone tells you jesus is here or there ,you are not to believe them for we are all creators who spoke the creation into existence and then we begin incarnating into the creation over and over into the sea of forgetfulness...remember this very important "scripture"> there's Nothing new under the sun..that includes you and i...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The future shoukd not 'belong' to ANY religion! Belief in shy fairies is what is leadig us down the path to global conflict. One lot is saying their god is greater than the other lot like a bunch of school kids. 'My daddy is stronger than your daddy...nah nah nah nahnah!'.
Grow up for fucks sake! :-)
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The future should not 'belong' to ANY religion! Belief in shy fairies is what is leadig us down the path to global conflict. One lot is saying their god is greater than the other lot like a bunch of school kids. 'My daddy is stronger than your daddy...nah nah nah nahnah!'.
Grow up for fucks sake! :-)
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The future should not 'belong' to ANY religion! Belief in sky fairies is what is leading us down the path to global conflict. One lot is saying their god is greater than the other lot like a bunch of school kids. 'My daddy is stronger than your daddy...nah nah nah nahnah!'.
Grow up for fucks sake! :-)

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