Lost all hope

I think that the lack of courage and moral compass is our greatest downfall. Courage will not come back to Americans until the wolf has broken in their door, then watch out.

I think we should enjoy peace pipe and think on this a while.

And not a peep from our media.

Hell no...not lost hope but an awakening...you are in the top 10% of the sheeple that has learned the knowledge of what might ( will ) come...you have time to guard and be ready..it's not about race- it's about diminishing options to make our way for everybody..battling for the remaining crumbs of a broken economic structure

get out of debt. you are ahead of the curve...prepare yourself

I would recommend looking for some of Gerald Celente's stuff-he's a very clever guy

you've only lost hope in that the facade of "them" is real-the people that have told you about the white picket fence, the princess and the easy life on MTV is not a realistic or sustainable realistic livelihood

if you can't pay cash- you can't afford it
if your home costs more than 5 times your yearly take-home pay- it's too much
if you get take out fast food everyday- your getting ripped off
if you have to own a car so you can drive to work everyday-you should rethink whether you got a good deal on your house or you need a new car every 5 years (put that in your mortgage purchase price instead of the recurring car cost)
buy 3 big roast beefs for $30 instead of 4 big mac meal deals

I think you'll be fine..the shock of your awakening has alarmed you but the timing for you is almost perfect...there is little time left..it's not the end but get your "ducks in a row"

Not really. When you consider the government has usurped the rule of law and overthrown the constitution. That is where the idea of restoration comes in. They are the revolutionaries not us.

Good idea, count me in.

^^ this ^^

yep

i dont have the balls to kill myself

so i think i'll just get real careless

i hate this world

I too feel your pain and feel very depressed of late.

If there nothing we can do to stop the progression this horrible fate.

Are we just destined to fulfill prophescy and are all our efforts in vain.

I do ponder these things now on a daily basis.

Surely,,,,,,,,,others .........millions and millions of them in the past have wondered the very same thing.

Are we just destined to be "wasted" and "destroyed" and "fail"?

Is there no way that we can stop this and "change the outcome"?

Yes.

I have friends that have suddenly become "awake" and they are no after frantically prepping up have become

like you said and sad and feeling like it is all futile.

Surely there will be one........there will come one that will make the differnce and change the direction and come.

I have a friend that recently woke up and went into overdrive to prepare. He called me the other night and said he was having a beer or two because he couldn't stop the worrying and thinking. He is not a drinker and this was a big "sign".

Yes,,,,,,,,right there with you on this. So much doom coming........and starvation in the USA.

"All history shows that it is no easy matter to excite a large people into any vigorous and continued opposition to the government they have been long habituated to respect and obey. Nothing can bring them to this except a clear conviction and strong feeling of some real and important injury. I am unaware of any long held state agitated by any continued and great commotion, without some violent and continued pressure from the side of government. The waves do not rise till the wind bloweth." Samuel Cooper, Boston 1773.

We know how bad it has gotten. We are the aware and awake. In time anger will sweep many households and men will take to their rifles to set right what has gone wrong. Things must get very bad though, for a man to of his own accord leave his loved ones to go to war and face likely death.

Many soldiers and police will not defend the corrupted tyrants in the end. They will until it is so clear what they are defending that they cannot justify their own actions for the sake of bread.

Every government there ever was has fallen and these will be no different.

When the redcoats discovered that the colonials were building weapons caches at Concord and Lexington, the haughty General ordered a detachment of 200 soldiers to destroy the stockpiles. As they marched the 20 or so miles to Concord the local civilians took up arms. 50 colonials met the 200 soldiers outside of town. A shot was fired and the outnumbered colonials retreated. The redcoats began their march back to Boston, but were besieged from every tree and every hill by thousands of civilians. The general in Boston sent out several hundred more soldiers to relieve the beleagered detachment. They too came under fire no sooner than they left Boston.

The colonials took up a position on Reeds hill ( Bunker Hill). More redcoats were sent out to destroy the damned rebels. They charged the farmers and blacksmiths on that hill three times. Near a thousand of the finest soldiers in the world assaulted that hill. Eventually the colonials ran out of ammo and were forced to retreat. At the end over half the redcoats were dead or wounded compared to mere dozens of the civilian farmers who rose to fight for their freedom.

The english began to realize after this first engagement of the revolutionary war that perhaps they were in for more than they had ever imagined. And so it will be again when the tyrants send their henchmen for us.

When assaulted in our own homes we will have been given the moral right to defend and THEY know that. That is why THEY will try to weaken the masses ahead of time. That is why they programmed the young to do what they are told without thought.

Yes we will perish but that can never be escaped in the long run anyway. What we can do is choose HOW we perish. Gassed in a shower, beheaded in a FEMA camp, gunned down in the driveway. It is nice to have choices. When your times comes DF, however it may be, I have faith you will meet it well. I believe I can do the same. Be strong my friend, and enjoy all that life presents you on the way. I shall do the same.

hopi say..when the rapture comes -we are supposed to say "we will not leave and go with you because the creator/mother gave this land to us forever"

Be careful. I have observed that feeding us optimism that will never come to fruition is yet another contingency.

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I think the "have no fear" is a very important part of the equation. Fear holds people back and that's exactly what they want.

It is called a prayer pipe, not a peace pipe.
Just my 2 cents

Yes!

for those that don't know or are deluded into believing that the coming aliens/fallen angels are here to save them by some kind of rapture........they will be sorely deceived and discover that it is all wrong.

Never leave.

Stay.

We are not meant to be "beam me up Scotty".

The is a delusion....and a lie.

I'm ready to give up with you OP...

You have to wait! Make sure everything is not just prepping for war.

Hope NEVER dies.

Not ever.


Even in the blackness of the Pit, a light can shine to show you the way out...

One just need to look UP.



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It doesn't have to...





BE the change...

Stockdale had some words to say about optimism in the Hanoi Hilton. He said the guys who were optimistic were the ones who died first.

His approach was that it was okay to be optimistic but it was very important to also be a realist. Or that is the gist of it as I remember.

vote for Romney.

I always love your responses my friend. When the wolf invades my space, I will meet it well, as you will. The nation is being undermined in the school system, government, and local institutions. We may well have to defend in our time.

And a British officer who had been contemptuous of the rabble in arms, said "I then realized that they (the rebels) have men who know very well what they are about".

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The dismantling of the USA started back in the 50's and really took off after Kennedy was assassinated.

Now I am pretty sure it was a world wide scheme and the USA was just part of it.

This last evisceration of public pockets through mortgage backed securities was just one of the final straws. The last attempt to pull money out of the system (only place left) and make a few investment houses Billions in profits on the backs of the hard working joe public, while at the same time leveling the world playing field by dumping the entire middle class in the toilet.

A good war, food shortage, Fuku radiation and a super flu or two is about all they will need to finish the job.

Don't feel bad about letting it pass you by without protest unless you could see the grand scheme from the beginning or you knew the men behind the scene running the show.

They are untouchable and sneaky bastards moving so slow its hard to see the big picture until its too late then you are in the spiders web.

Beware of the Military-Industrial Complex Speech - Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961.

Eisenhower said it and most people did not listen or understand.

Kennedy knew what was going on and saw the problems that were arising and he tried and was dead by 1963.

The last few years of financial chaos blamed on Bush and Obama was all just the icing on the cake, the cake being what was in the oven many many years ago.

Kennedy had the right idea and he would not have been killed probably would have put the brakes on middle class extinction or at least stalled it quite a bit.

This last mortgage backed securities evisceration of the public that caused all these problems of late could not have happened if the Glass Stegal act had not been repealed and that was done in 1999 at the end of the Clinton Administration and Dems and the GOP both voted for it under great pressure from the FED. Who manipulated them we may never know.

Washington is full of bought and paid for bribe for votes Assholes, and until we clean house nothing will change.

Romney is just another Bilderberg plant, and if he is elected nothing will change in a significant way although the degradation may slow a tad and the outlandish Obama type behavior will hopefully stop.

If Obama is re-elected we are F'd.

The only hope I see is somebody like Ron Paul, Allen West or Jesse Ventura IE some president that will take us back to the root of the constitution and stop all the BS in Washington and do away with all the wasteful spending.

TPTB will never let anyone like that near the presidency.

Its sad to see such a great country go down the drain.

that sounds true.
lets hope we can put the wolf in the cooking pot

Yea, the only partial solution is individual and involves living as isolated from the system and the people as you can.

The last honorable President, though JFK was one heck of a guy too. When your President stands up as Ike did, (class of '15) and tells you that there are greedy bastards out there that will abuse your system, your children, and you as well, then the next guy comes along and gets shot, well I put it to you that our hopes died along with John F. Kennedy that day in Dallas.