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I am 20, and MOST of my graduating class is going to college.

When I was in school, I thought I would be a failure because I didn't want to go to college. (LOL)

Thats because every single stupid school PRAISES and ADORES and promotes the idea that "if you do not go to college, you will be a FAILURE the rest of your life working as a garbageman"

NO, here is the problem with all of that propaganda:

1.) in a bad economy, there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone. In fact, there are not enough high paying jobs for even 10% of everyone. There ALWAYS has to be 50 junky low paying jobs for every high paying one, because THE LOW PAYING ONES SUPPORT THAT 100$ PER HOUR JOB! You can't have a kingdom without serfs! That is why minimum wage has to be higher, because if nobody worked at McDonalds and everyone was a high paid "professional" there would be no economy or production.

2.) The percentages of people from my graduating class that are going to college is insane, almost everyone goes. Now, tell me how even half or even 25% of the kids in my school are going to get a high paying job? They simply WILL NOT. They will be paying off that degree for the rest of their life, if our currency holds up that long (it probably won't)

3.) No offense to anyone, but in order to benefit from that degree you have to be ABOVE AVERAGE intelligence AND ambitious. Most college kids are neither of those, and they simply scoot past classes and have sex and drink beer and act dumb like they will the rest of their lives.

4.) The courses at colleges are the absolute biggest piles of garbage I have ever seen in my life, almost worse than public school. You are paying over 100$ a day to stay at the school and go to these classes, and most of them are either someone rambling about a topic they are not a true expert in, or something retarded like Yoga or bowling. (no kidding, my friend said he took yoga and bowling classes for college credits.)

It is NOT what it used to be, stop believing the lies of college, the owners of the colleges are in it for the money and that is IT.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, I was able to find (thank you God) a good job at a place that has plenty of opportunity and is paying 11.40 an hour right now, just got a 1$ raise recently after working there for 2 months. I work hard at what I have to do, I try to pay attention the best I can. The other kids my age there are generally lazy and don't try their best.

Most kids that go to college just want an easy pass to a high paying job, it does not and never will work that way.

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From what you've written, I think our decision not to go to college is a good one.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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You're absolutely correct. Every asshat that I know went to college has become a true loser living with mom.

I'm a HS drop out with a GED been working full time since I was 16. I know clear over 115K per year.

College is just the continuation of indoctrination to turn you into a liberal slave.
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You're absolutely correct. Every asshat that I know went to college has become a true loser living with mom.

I'm a HS drop out with a GED been working full time since I was 16. I know clear over 115K per year.

College is just the continuation of indoctrination to turn you into a liberal slave.
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bumphf

It is true, if you work at even Mcdonalds for 5 years making 16k a year, that is 80k$ that you now have to make a down payment on a house and buy a decent car and still have left overs. Shooting for that 100$ per hour job and lavish lifestyle just isn't realistic at all anymore.
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learn how to run a backhoe or get a CDL and you will always find work at good pay
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Hey man get a student loan, buy 20 shacks in Detroit and rent them to crackheads. You'll be rich in 20 years time.
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Have to agree most of the people that are doing really well, never went to collage, what an utter waste of time.
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if you go to college, get a degree in something useful. Doctor, HVAC, computer science , engineer, etc.

communications degrees can be useful, oprah has one. But not many degree's are worth shit.

Buisness isan;t a bad idea either if you plan to go


something like history, or art..you might have a career teaching it..but not in the real world. You don't need college to be a good artist.
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learn how to run a backhoe or get a CDL and you will always find work at good pay
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All I see is ads for CDL drivers, go on craigslist and you will find a job instantly if you have a CDL!
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Frankly, unless you're going to study something like medicine, engineering or architecture, you're not going to be making the big bucks. Even law isn't that great at the moment. Lots of recent graduate lawyers out there who can't finds jobs. College for everyone is a joke.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
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Hey man get a student loan, buy 20 shacks in Detroit and rent them to crackheads. You'll be rich in 20 years time.
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lol

I wouldn't do that if I made 10 million dollars off of it.
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Why don't you look into one of the many trades?

Depending on location, Union Trades have higher paying wages to pull wires, lay flooring, build cubes, build offices, etc. than 95% of the people that work in the offices.

I went to college for business, at a good private school. I paid most of it off as I went. Graduated, went to Construction and have not looked back. Will I use my business degree, yes and no. Right now, no. In a few years, when I start my own business, yes. As for now it is work, work, work, to buy multiples of essential tools for the trade.

Nothing wrong with not going to college IF you are motivated, work hard, and are smart.
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If you go to college right after high school, absolutely its a waste of time & money!! Most kids change their majors several times before graduating. Those who go to a 4 year college spend the first 2 years taking core classes before spending their last 2 years taking the classes for their degrees.

Go to work for a few years, save your money & then start taking classes. If you have to take out a loan to go to school, you can't afford to go. I'm in my 3rd year at a community college (2 classes per semester), I have a full ride & a GPA of 3.81.

I've told both of my kids, do NOT take out student loans, there is no guarantee of a job after school & so far my son has held to that & my daughter plans on doing that also.
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Frankly, unless you're going to study something like medicine, engineering or architecture, you're not going to be making the big bucks. Even law isn't that great at the moment. Lots of recent graduate lawyers out there who can't finds jobs. College for everyone is a joke.
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Agree 100%

That is the one hole in what I said, doctors and engineers can still find jobs. But as I also said, it isn't going to be easy to find a job unless you are a doctor, the place I work is medical and they are one of the only companies expanding in my area.

Medical is doing well because more people are sick and dying than ever. I wonder why...

GMO
Fast food
Dumbing down
"walking slowly is exercise"
Lazyness

Etc
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There are MORE water molecules in 1 glass of tap water than there are glasses of tap water in EVERY OCEAN ON EARTH.

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Kids fail to understand that what made a college degree valuable was that not everyone had one. Now there's as many college degrees printed as dollars.
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If you go to college right after high school, absolutely its a waste of time & money!! Most kids change their majors several times before graduating. Those who go to a 4 year college spend the first 2 years taking core classes before spending their last 2 years taking the classes for their degrees.

Go to work for a few years, save your money & then start taking classes. If you have to take out a loan to go to school, you can't afford to go. I'm in my 3rd year at a community college (2 classes per semester), I have a full ride & a GPA of 3.81.

I've told both of my kids, do NOT take out student loans, there is no guarantee of a job after school & so far my son has held to that & my daughter plans on doing that also.
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Yea that is the truth, it is SO much better to go to work somewhere and then take classes for a better position at that job.

The place I work actually gives you FREE schooling if you want to pursue a better position within the company.
GREAT minds talk about IDEAS
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Racism is a crime against humanity.

“A good scientist is a person in whom the childhood quality of perennial curiosity lingers on. Once he gets an answer, he has other questions.” ~Frederick Seitz

There are MORE water molecules in 1 glass of tap water than there are glasses of tap water in EVERY OCEAN ON EARTH.

Thread: THE TRUTH about the "Ancient Astronaut Theory" and Ancient Aliens TV Show AGENDA!
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Why don't you look into one of the many trades?

Depending on location, Union Trades have higher paying wages to pull wires, lay flooring, build cubes, build offices, etc. than 95% of the people that work in the offices.

I went to college for business, at a good private school. I paid most of it off as I went. Graduated, went to Construction and have not looked back. Will I use my business degree, yes and no. Right now, no. In a few years, when I start my own business, yes. As for now it is work, work, work, to buy multiples of essential tools for the trade.

Nothing wrong with not going to college IF you are motivated, work hard, and are smart.
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Ahh, yes, but see you are smart! and you work hard, that is why you are doing well.

a good percentage of kids wouldn't do that, and thus waste that degree. They will only be slightly ambitious, or not work enough, or not know enough about whatever they want to do.
GREAT minds talk about IDEAS
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SMALL minds talk about PEOPLE

Racism is a crime against humanity.

“A good scientist is a person in whom the childhood quality of perennial curiosity lingers on. Once he gets an answer, he has other questions.” ~Frederick Seitz

There are MORE water molecules in 1 glass of tap water than there are glasses of tap water in EVERY OCEAN ON EARTH.

Thread: THE TRUTH about the "Ancient Astronaut Theory" and Ancient Aliens TV Show AGENDA!
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You are right OP, College is a RIPOFF!

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Frankly, unless you're going to study something like medicine, engineering or architecture, you're not going to be making the big bucks. Even law isn't that great at the moment. Lots of recent graduate lawyers out there who can't finds jobs. College for everyone is a joke.
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Agree 100%

That is the one hole in what I said, doctors and engineers can still find jobs. But as I also said, it isn't going to be easy to find a job unless you are a doctor, the place I work is medical and they are one of the only companies expanding in my area.

Medical is doing well because more people are sick and dying than ever. I wonder why...

GMO
Fast food
Dumbing down
"walking slowly is exercise"
Lazyness

Etc
 Quoting: ExpertOfSound


I work in healthcare also. You're right, it is a growing field, but definitely one of the few.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Kids fail to understand that what made a college degree valuable was that not everyone had one. Now there's as many college degrees printed as dollars.
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So true! And they get suckered into having to pay off student loans for the rest of their lives.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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If you really need a degree for something buy one .... its a safe bet no one will ever check.
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I went back to school at 22, 3.5 years later degree with a 3.85 GPA in IT.. got out in 1996 (and only owed $1,800) hired out of school at $35k, changed jobs in 8 months for 46k, at 12 months, got an offer for $65k and made my employer match it.at 18 months, I was an independent contractor at $55 an hour, then 2 years out of school I landed a local contract for $165 an hour cause I had skills in a certain software package over the previous year that was very rare.. that contract lasted 28 months until late 2000. Did a 3 months contract after that, then went back as a full time employee at $85k a year cause of the tech crash. That job lasted 2 years, then was unemployed for about 4.5 months.. that sucked.. landed my current job where I work now for over 9 years.. working at home..

I pity kids getting out of school now.. I feel sorry for my kids. I have had a great ride.
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OP, you are a moron !!
It is all about your study field and attitude !!
Every year your 500 Fortune Corp. come to Mexico to hire between 500-750 graduates students , most of them 80% in computer sciences or related fields , the pay 6-8K/month for starting , why they come here ?? they can't find enough ppl in your country .
Meanwhile , Americans are graduating in Liberal Arts ,Sociology , Politics, English , History and stuff like that.

Why aren't American students getting into Engineering or Sciences Degrees anymore ??

Well , this article may help you !!

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"I work hard at what I have to do, I try to pay attention the best I can."

Keep doing this and cultivate it continually.
This may not go rewarded in the corporate world. If you are not rewarded for hardwork and intellect by your employer - employ yourself.

That's what I did. Almost 10 years ago, and now I'm officially a millionaire.

Go your own way.
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college is a ponzi scheme
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College feels good for most that are there.

All REAL responsibilities are not really theirs.

If you need to work to be able to go to college, you'll understand how little it is worth it.

Just a few are really there with intention and goals in life.
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Meh. Not true if you get a real degree. I went through an Engineering Program, and make like 40/hour @ 25 years old. It's worth it if you get a real skill.
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Ditto OP,

I went to a trade school for sound engineering and music production instead of the status quo college. Paid far less for that too.

Currently am 23 years old, making my music on the side as well as working in a trade skill profession for 100 dollars a day.

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LAW School is even worse... what a scam... I have 150k in loans I can only hope to payback...

Currently work in Insurance/Collision industry and wish I went into this in my 20's and I would have no debt.

Learn a trade or goto work for a company with an associates and have them pay for the rest of your schooling.
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I'm in college now after a decade of struggling like a slave to get a business off the ground. I got it up nicely and was earning a nice income...finally. I had three employees who were able to make a living, too. Then the economy jerked it all out from under me.

After thinking about it for a while I decided to go to college on grants and student loans. I am tired of going shopping after work looking like a dirty bum. I'm tired of going to bed every night with the stress and worry of being a business owner. I'm tired of working 70 hours a week (20 or more of it at night after work keeping up with expenditures and payroll and taxes).

Fuck it. I'll go in debt and try for a white collar job that I want to do. Not an insurance salesman or a business man, but a scholar.

The best part is that all those loans will inflate away to chump change when the economy goes bust. LOL!!! I win!!!

And Ph.Ds are welcomed into every country in the world. Everybody wants scholars.
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I went to college....

I was in a sorority...

I was a little sister in a fraternity...

I don't remember it....but I am sure it was worthwhile....