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Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 4 Corners are the 4 Elements of: Fire, Air, Water and Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069 That is the Perfect Square. These 4 Elements are further reduced to the Alchemical Trinity. Where Fire and Air stand for Sulfur, the Soul. Water for Mercury, the Spirit. And Salt for Earth, the Body. Interesting. I think you're right. That's what's interesting about studying this: One symbol leads to others, which lead to others, and on and on. It's the journey, not the destination. Along the way, you will "know thyself". Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if long ago there were certain adepts (be their high priests in Egypt, astrologers in Babylon, shaman in more tribal societies) who knew the earth was round, their audience, to whom they directed their writings, was the "great, unwashed masses" who knew nothing of celestial mechanics. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
King New Jerusalem Russ User ID: 915833 Canada 09/26/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24026534 United Kingdom 09/26/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. But back in ancient times, that's how they referred to the earth. Even in the Bible, it is referred to as "the four corners of the earth". (Think: map). yea, 2D map, can be whatever shape - just don't add up to me 4 corners, when the earth is physically a roundish shape. |
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Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. But back in ancient times, that's how they referred to the earth. Even in the Bible, it is referred to as "the four corners of the earth". (Think: map). yea, 2D map, can be whatever shape - just don't add up to me 4 corners, when the earth is physically a roundish shape. Remember, we are talking the language of esoterica and symbolism, handed down to us from the Greeks and Romans, who themselves were inheritors of this wisdom from still more ancient cultures in Egypt, Babylon, and elsewhere. Don't think too literally. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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birdbrain User ID: 24026534 United Kingdom 09/26/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. But back in ancient times, that's how they referred to the earth. Even in the Bible, it is referred to as "the four corners of the earth". (Think: map). yea, 2D map, can be whatever shape - just don't add up to me 4 corners, when the earth is physically a roundish shape. Remember, we are talking the language of esoterica and symbolism, handed down to us from the Greeks and Romans, who themselves were inheritors of this wisdom from still more ancient cultures in Egypt, Babylon, and elsewhere. Don't think too literally. hey, thanks for the heads up man. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24453687 Australia 09/26/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not very germane to the conversation. ;) j/k Germaine as in, "the Count of St Germaine"? yes Comte St Germaine. i would propose that even freemason/rosicrucian history has been bastardized so you only have the view some with agendas would want you to have.They did it with the bible, and with a lot more of our history for a reason. look harder.I could post a wanky youtube vid to explain what i know in a few small sentences, it makes all the research easier when someones done it for you.The vid however is not how ive come to this line of thinking personally, but it is a useful tool to show others. Unfortunately people want quick google(if they use google lol)search answers...they dont look as we were intended to look...between the lines. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 09/26/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not very germane to the conversation. ;) j/k Germaine as in, "the Count of St Germaine"? yes Comte St Germaine. i would propose that even freemason/rosicrucian history has been bastardized so you only have the view some with agendas would want you to have.They did it with the bible, and with a lot more of our history for a reason. look harder.I could post a wanky youtube vid to explain what i know in a few small sentences, it makes all the research easier when someones done it for you.The vid however is not how ive come to this line of thinking personally, but it is a useful tool to show others. Unfortunately people want quick google(if they use google lol)search answers...they dont look as we were intended to look...between the lines. And St Germaine was an Alchemist. Masonry is a Veil over the Laboratory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24453687 Australia 09/26/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not very germane to the conversation. ;) j/k Germaine as in, "the Count of St Germaine"? yes Comte St Germaine. i would propose that even freemason/rosicrucian history has been bastardized so you only have the view some with agendas would want you to have.They did it with the bible, and with a lot more of our history for a reason. look harder.I could post a wanky youtube vid to explain what i know in a few small sentences, it makes all the research easier when someones done it for you.The vid however is not how ive come to this line of thinking personally, but it is a useful tool to show others. Unfortunately people want quick google(if they use google lol)search answers...they dont look as we were intended to look...between the lines. And St Germaine was an Alchemist. Masonry is a Veil over the Laboratory. that was never his intention in my understanding. |
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Bent User ID: 1441871 United States 09/26/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've also read some say the compass is actually a divider. (a maritime navigational tool) Some say original humans were hermaphrodites and that the genetic manipulators split our species into the two halves, the male and female. And that we are a conquered species. They also talk of the alchemical wedding which is the re-emerging of the two halves to become whole again. Maybe they worship this "God" because it promised them one day that they would be reunited with their other half. But maybe this god actually has no intention of doing this and so they basically have Stockholm Syndrome. I speculate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 09/26/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to mormonmatters.org] Join together the King and the Queen and with the birth of the Rebis is a new Son, a Star, a Stone. |
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Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've also read some say the compass is actually a divider. (a maritime navigational tool) Quoting: Bent Some say original humans were hermaphrodites and that the genetic manipulators split our species into the two halves, the male and female. And that we are a conquered species. They also talk of the alchemical wedding which is the re-emerging of the two halves to become whole again. Maybe they worship this "God" because it promised them one day that they would be reunited with their other half. But maybe this god actually has no intention of doing this and so they basically have Stockholm Syndrome. I speculate. Interesting speculation. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From your first post, where you said the arc and the square combine to form the "G", it made me think of the Golden Ratio. Quoting: Bent YES!!! Outstanding insight! Like the nautilus shell, or the shape of a hurricane, or the beehive, or the shape of a galaxy. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How come freemasons don't know the calendar of their religion? Quoting: King New Jerusalem Russ Wed Sept 7/11/12 Unfortunately, much is lost on its rank and file members, as much is lost on the adherents of many organizations' members. The original raison d'etre has blurred and veered off course. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Thor's Hamster what is the calendar of the Freemason religion? Quoting: King New Jerusalem Russ Wed Sept 7/11/12 The Masonic calendar is designated A.L. (Anno Lucis) = "Year of Light". To obtain this date, add 4,000 years to our current calendar year. So 2012 would be 6012 A.L. The question then becomes: Why do Masons add 4,000 years to the current calendar, and why is that time known as the "Year of Light". :) Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
birdbrain User ID: 24026534 United Kingdom 09/26/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Circle, the Triangle and the Square. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069 Those who read Harry Potter see them as, The Elder Wand, the Cloak of Invisibility and the Resurrection Stone. that's what i mean, to many hear watching ridiculous programming tools like harry potter - be careful what you watch and listen to, the subliminals might not always be benign. |
Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since Freemasons use the Pope Gregory VIII calendar does that make Freemasonry a branch of the Catholic Church? Quoting: King New Jerusalem Russ Wed Sept 7/11/12 It's interesting you mention Pope Gregory VIII. He was Pope for only 57 days in late 1187, before dying from a fever. You say there's a calendar that bears his name. The interesting thing about that is, barely 60 years prior to him being Pope, the Knights Templar (who were answered only to the Pope) set up shop on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and excavated underneath it for a decade. I wonder if what they found down there has anything to do with Pope Gregory VIII's calendar. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Bent User ID: 1441871 United States 09/26/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Squaring the Circle Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069 [link to mormonmatters.org] Join together the King and the Queen and with the birth of the Rebis is a new Son, a Star, a Stone. Maybe we are the stone, and the alien manipulators are the philosophers. So take that compass that many believe is what it is, and make it a divider. What is your interpretation of that image when a divider is used? |
Thor's Hamster (OP) User ID: 1248699 United States 09/26/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since Freemasons use the Pope Gregory VIII calendar does that make Freemasonry a branch of the Catholic Church? Quoting: King New Jerusalem Russ Wed Sept 7/11/12 Do you mean Pope Gregory VIII? Or Pope Gregory the XIII? I think you mean XIII. I've never heard of a calendar attributed to Pope Gregory the VIII. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |