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NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador

 
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"Today the consequences of Fukushima threaten the world. Unit 4 contains 10 times more cesium 137 than Chernobyl. A strong earthquake could mean collapse.

Ignoring the conditions of the Fukushima nuclear reactors continue to be promoted at home and abroad. Fukushima must not be forgotten.

Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima are no less dreadful than atomic bombs. Nuclear reactors are potential “super bombs." No single weapon can compete with the potential damage that can be caused by Fukushima unit 4.

The Fukushima accident could have been more catastrophic for Japan and the world. The still present danger of a collapse of unit 4 after an intensity 7 earthquake must be broadcast the world over.

Sound judgment would not have permitted construction of 54 nuclearreactors in a Japan menaced by frequent earthquakes and tsunamis.Only the lack of ethics and responsibility made it possible. Money and the corruption of power plant management sow the seeds of catastrophe. This is not limited to Japan.

The lack of ethics and responsibility is highlighted by the absence of a solution for nuclear waste that threatens future generations.

Today mankind faces a crisis of civilization. The true cause is lack of ethics. Fundamental ethics would prohibit the abuse and exhaustion of natural resources leaving, permanently poisonous waste and enormous debt in its wake. Global ethics requires maternal culture, respecting the environment and interests of future generations.

The critical situation at Fukushima requires the mobilization of human wisdom on the widest possible scale. The pressing need for setting up a neutral assessment team as well as an international technical cooperation team is evident.

The fuel rods in the decaying cooling pool of unit 4 must be moved to another place as soon as possible. It is a global security issue requiring maximum efforts which regrettably are not being made.

( Mitsuhei Murata, Former Japanese Ambassador to Switzerland )
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Re: NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador
"Today the consequences of Fukushima threaten the world. Unit 4 contains 10 times more cesium 137 than Chernobyl. A strong earthquake could mean collapse.

Ignoring the conditions of the Fukushima nuclear reactors continue to be promoted at home and abroad. Fukushima must not be forgotten.

Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima are no less dreadful than atomic bombs. Nuclear reactors are potential “super bombs." No single weapon can compete with the potential damage that can be caused by Fukushima unit 4.

The Fukushima accident could have been more catastrophic for Japan and the world. The still present danger of a collapse of unit 4 after an intensity 7 earthquake must be broadcast the world over.

Sound judgment would not have permitted construction of 54 nuclearreactors in a Japan menaced by frequent earthquakes and tsunamis.Only the lack of ethics and responsibility made it possible. Money and the corruption of power plant management sow the seeds of catastrophe. This is not limited to Japan.

The lack of ethics and responsibility is highlighted by the absence of a solution for nuclear waste that threatens future generations.

Today mankind faces a crisis of civilization. The true cause is lack of ethics. Fundamental ethics would prohibit the abuse and exhaustion of natural resources leaving, permanently poisonous waste and enormous debt in its wake. Global ethics requires maternal culture, respecting the environment and interests of future generations.

The critical situation at Fukushima requires the mobilization of human wisdom on the widest possible scale. The pressing need for setting up a neutral assessment team as well as an international technical cooperation team is evident.

The fuel rods in the decaying cooling pool of unit 4 must be moved to another place as soon as possible. It is a global security issue requiring maximum efforts which regrettably are not being made.

( Mitsuhei Murata, Former Japanese Ambassador to Switzerland )
Read full speech..

[link to www.nuclearfreeplanet.org]

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: taniatarn


I didnt think it would explode as such- so not sure why it is being called a super bomb...unless he means a super bomb of radiation?
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burnit burnit burnit
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Re: NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador
Well..lets think for a minute...how often does Japan get earthquakes over 7 magnitude...

here is a link to a map showing Japans seismic history...

[link to www.newscientist.com]

That alone should be enough to get action on the urgent need to remove these fuel rods asap....but the world seems to be ignoring this very real massive disaster just waiting to happen...
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THESE ARE LIES, STAR FLEET HELPED SHUT DOWN THE MESS AND REMOVED THE CORES, ROD, REACTORS AND DUMPED THEM IN THE SUN.
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I didnt think it would explode as such- so not sure why it is being called a super bomb...unless he means a super bomb of radiation?
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When you drop a nuclear bomb on something, what are you left with? Lots of radiation.

What is Fukushima leaking, and in danger of leaking in even greater quantity? Lots of radiation.

See the analogy here?
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It's all going to plan hehehe! How else would there be a 90% depopulation of useless feeders and breeders?
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Because the fuel rods have already been destroyed and Our govern ya know we are already doomed. Or perhaps maybe they ate making no action because a catastrophe is upon us and only the rich and powerful will be spared, so in their minds, why waste the time or money?
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/yawn

If Fukushima was so bad people would be dying by now, and we have nothing but rad numbers lowering, so move on.
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Because the fuel rods have already been destroyed and Our govern ya know we are already doomed. Or perhaps maybe they ate making no action because a catastrophe is upon us and only the rich and powerful will be spared, so in their minds, why waste the time or money?
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I suspect you may be right...on both points...i bet there would be a lot more action if you could actually 'see' the radiation...its already spread far beyond Japan....the invisible death..
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Published on Sep 8, 2012 by firebombclipper

Sept 8th 2012, Eastern Ontario 11:45 am 4.63 micro-sieverts divided by 0.14 micro-sieverts {My normal average background} = 33.7 X background. A new record in screaming high rads for me. It had been raining steady here from about 6 am so I really wasn't expecting to catch anything like this. Since I began our rain and snow here {November 2011} the number have shown a steady increase.
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Radioactive Rain 9-13-12 260 Cpm milwaukee, wi


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Gamma Ray Bursts & Fallout At 37 Times Background Radiation


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The events were as follows:

1pm RAIN 10x over background
5pm STORM 20x over background
11pm STORM 37x background

The value recorded in the chart is a one minute average reading. Our radiation alarm triggers off of a 30 second moving average for anything over 50 CPM. We estimate that the instantaneous Gamma burst detection peaked at 600 counts.
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I am already in your air your water and your food. I am already inside all of mankind and I will only grow stronger as you continue to get weaker over time and wither away in sickness to your pathetic death. I run on and on like a run on sentence of death. I am in your kids, in your husbands and wifes. You can't escape me and you won't.

Enjoy this time for death is kicked down the front door. I have moved in and await the day of your decay.

Its too late to stop me.

Truly yours,

PLUMEY
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Nah.... it's just a triple reactor-core meltdown.
Happens every day. Nothing to worry about.

Bask in the glow of fukushima-daiichi...

glow
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Was no accident. Predictive Programming. Count'em four Reaktors.

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Re: NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador
It sucks that this has happened...it should never have happened. A country with a seismic history like Japan has should never have had reactors in the positions they are in. The ambassador was right on the money when he said the people in power have NO ETHICS. ANd this is true in nearly every country of the world.
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THESE ARE LIES, STAR FLEET HELPED SHUT DOWN THE MESS AND REMOVED THE CORES, ROD, REACTORS AND DUMPED THEM IN THE SUN.
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Oh brother.. more freaking starfleet bs. I thought'd you'd been beamed up already.
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Re: NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador
those spent fuel pools have been sitting there for over a year and a half...

why haven't they melted through the containment vessel? is there still coolant in the pools? it just feels like these nuclear rods are not in the same condition they were before the 9.0

What's the gameplan going forward? Will these rods eventually burn through the coolant and burn into the Earth? or are we just waiting for a nuclear explosion of some kind?
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according to republican science via Anne Coulter radiation is good for you
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/yawn

If Fukushima was so bad people would be dying by now, and we have nothing but rad numbers lowering, so move on.
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[link to dissensus-japan.blogspot.com]

[link to enenews.com]

People are dying. Have been dying. Will continue to die.
Animals too.
[link to enenews.com]

One more for you. [link to optimalprediction.com]

Ok, two.. [link to optimalprediction.com]

Look around you and take a moment to notice the condition of the plant and animal life around you.
We got a fuku'n problem.

Thanks for the thread OP.
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oh look its this thread again
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Re: NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador
That alone should be enough to get action on the urgent need to remove these fuel rods asap....but the world seems to be ignoring this very real massive disaster just waiting to happen...
 Quoting: taniatarn

why don't you go over there and remove the fuel rods?

or does the fact that it's impossible and you will surely die put you off?
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Was no accident. Predictive Programming. Count'em four Reaktors.


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O.M.G.
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That alone should be enough to get action on the urgent need to remove these fuel rods asap....but the world seems to be ignoring this very real massive disaster just waiting to happen...
 Quoting: taniatarn

why don't you go over there and remove the fuel rods?

or does the fact that it's impossible and you will surely die put you off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24421571


Oh..okay then cause i really know all about how to remove fuel rods that would be a flippen fantastic idea aye sherlock....or better still lets just ignore the problem then and all put our head up our arses instead and just pretend Fukushima doesnt exist.....hows that?? Better?
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It's all going to plan hehehe! How else would there be a 90% depopulation of useless feeders and breeders?
abomb
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We're all Fuked!
It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?
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Published on Sep 8, 2012 by firebombclipper

Sept 8th 2012, Eastern Ontario 11:45 am 4.63 micro-sieverts divided by 0.14 micro-sieverts {My normal average background} = 33.7 X background. A new record in screaming high rads for me. It had been raining steady here from about 6 am so I really wasn't expecting to catch anything like this. Since I began our rain and snow here {November 2011} the number have shown a steady increase.
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I'm going to have to say UMMMMMMMMT There is another potential cause or flaw in his rainwater theory.

[link to bizarrelabs.com]

Some meteors are so tiny that they fall through the atmosphere without burning up. They are so small in fact that they float around in the atmosphere, eventually reaching the ground with rain droplets or heavier dust particles. The best times to collect micrometeorites are after meteor showers.

Stuff you need:

Two glass or Pyrex dishes or pans
a magnet
hot plate
microscope and slides
distilled water
needle or pin
small plastic or cellophane bag
Use a small glass dish, such as a glass pie pan, to collect rainwater. The dish needs to be very clean. Let it sit outdoors long enough to fill. If you don't live where it rains very much, fill the pan with distilled water and let it sit outside for a few days
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Gamma Ray Bursts & Fallout At 37 Times Background Radiation


[link to www.youtube.com]

The events were as follows:

1pm RAIN 10x over background
5pm STORM 20x over background
11pm STORM 37x background

The value recorded in the chart is a one minute average reading. Our radiation alarm triggers off of a 30 second moving average for anything over 50 CPM. We estimate that the instantaneous Gamma burst detection peaked at 600 counts.
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Re: NO SINGLE WEAPON COMPETES with potential damage from Fukushima— potential ‘super bomb’..says ex Japan Ambassador
That alone should be enough to get action on the urgent need to remove these fuel rods asap....but the world seems to be ignoring this very real massive disaster just waiting to happen...
 Quoting: taniatarn

why don't you go over there and remove the fuel rods?

or does the fact that it's impossible and you will surely die put you off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24421571


Oh..okay then cause i really know all about how to remove fuel rods that would be a flippen fantastic idea aye sherlock....or better still lets just ignore the problem then and all put our head up our arses instead and just pretend Fukushima doesnt exist.....hows that?? Better?
 Quoting: taniatarn


well obviously you don't know anything about it.

they CAN'T remove the fuel rods, because anybody that tries WILL DIE.

they CAN'T use robots to do it, because any robot that tries to do it WILL BE DESTROYED.

so "remove the fuel rods ASAP" might actually mean "wait twenty years or wait 100 years or wait 1000 years, then remove the fuel rods".

it would be pointless to send people to try to remove the fuel rods if they are just going to die trying, then you have a pile of radioactive corpses next to the fuel rods. then you would need to find a way to remove the corpses AND the rods.
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That alone should be enough to get action on the urgent need to remove these fuel rods asap....but the world seems to be ignoring this very real massive disaster just waiting to happen...
 Quoting: taniatarn

why don't you go over there and remove the fuel rods?

or does the fact that it's impossible and you will surely die put you off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24421571


Oh..okay then cause i really know all about how to remove fuel rods that would be a flippen fantastic idea aye sherlock....or better still lets just ignore the problem then and all put our head up our arses instead and just pretend Fukushima doesnt exist.....hows that?? Better?
 Quoting: taniatarn


well obviously you don't know anything about it.

they CAN'T remove the fuel rods, because anybody that tries WILL DIE.

they CAN'T use robots to do it, because any robot that tries to do it WILL BE DESTROYED.

so "remove the fuel rods ASAP" might actually mean "wait twenty years or wait 100 years or wait 1000 years, then remove the fuel rods".

it would be pointless to send people to try to remove the fuel rods if they are just going to die trying, then you have a pile of radioactive corpses next to the fuel rods. then you would need to find a way to remove the corpses AND the rods.
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Sounds like a good job for the muzzies. Send them in, they like playing with radiation.
It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?