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Arctic Sea Ice Coverage 'At Lowest Level For A Million Years', Says Researcher (PICTURES)

 
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This is the problem I have with Scientists that say statements like this. Million years? Please prove! I'm all ears..I was taught in high school that a scientist can't vomit a statement without proving it! We can't even predict the damn weather tomorrow let alone retro prove what the earth was like a million years ago!!!
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Sea ice in the Arctic has melted to below four-million square kilometres, the lowest it has been for a million years, according to a noted sea ice geophysicist and climatologist.

Professor John Yackel from the University of Calgary said: "This is the smallest minimum ice extent we've ever had, and not just in the satellite record, but probably in the last million years."

“When there’s no longer that sea ice below the air mass and it's just open ocean, that’s when more moisture off the ocean’s surface gets into the atmosphere and the water vapor in the atmosphere makes for more violent storms,” said Yackel.

“We can also expect to see an increase in storm frequency and storm intensity for most of the world's populated places as the Arctic and Earth continues to warm.”

[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]
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This is the problem I have with Scientists that say statements like this. Million years? Please prove! I'm all ears..I was taught in high school that a scientist can't vomit a statement without proving it! We can't even predict the damn weather tomorrow let alone retro prove what the earth was like a million years ago!!!
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My knowledge on this subject is minimal at best. With that said, haven't they only been able to measure this stuff for 20 or 30 years?
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True, but they take deep core samples and are able to tell the history of the region from that.
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Now that is funny.

They have been studying the Arctic for a lot longer than 30 years.
Geez, don't they teach anything in school these days.
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Some people believe their opinions can't be wrong. Those people are usually college students or democrats.

"Remote techniques to monitor sea ice extent in all seasons are well developed – these observations reveal a dramatic decline in summer sea ice extent since 1979, when satellite records became available. Further, they indicate that the decline has been facilitated by a dramatic decrease in the extent of perennial or multiyear ice."

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I'm sure someone will blame my V8 powered SUV...
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Yeah coz he was around a Million years ago taking samples on the rising and falling waters.
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I'm sure someone will blame my V8 powered SUV...
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I work with a Tree-hugging vegan, and I drive a 7 seat Jeep Commander with a V8. She let's me know all the time how I'm killing the planet. She really hates it when I come back from hunting or fishing and tell my tales.
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Sea ice in the Arctic has melted to below four-million square kilometres, the lowest it has been for a million years, according to a noted sea ice geophysicist and climatologist.

Professor John Yackel from the University of Calgary said: "This is the smallest minimum ice extent we've ever had, and not just in the satellite record, but probably in the last million years."

“When there’s no longer that sea ice below the air mass and it's just open ocean, that’s when more moisture off the ocean’s surface gets into the atmosphere and the water vapor in the atmosphere makes for more violent storms,” said Yackel.

“We can also expect to see an increase in storm frequency and storm intensity for most of the world's populated places as the Arctic and Earth continues to warm.”

[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]
 Quoting: Wash


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million years bsflag
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Note the word "probably"

If that storm didn't blow through we wouldn't be talking about this
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The ‘melting’ Arctic Ice Scare must be one of the few remaining Catastrophes that can be viably pushed, so they can all be seen behind it, pushing hard. The fact that the reduction in area was due to severe wind and not temperature must never be mentioned.
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WE ARE ALREADY SEEING AN INCREASE IN STORM FREQUENCY AND INTENSITY.
So we can expect severe blizzards, ice storms, and extended power outages this coming winter. Also the gulf stream currents are messed up and Greenlands ice is melting faster than ever.
I remember a documentary a couple years back that warned us about this, called - An Inconvenient Truth.
 Quoting: LonghairKing


That, like global warming, is a direct result of the Sun's activity and it has nothing to do with man.

Have you walked outside this beautiful autumn, and noticed that the air is cool and that the breeze is even cooler?

Meanwhile you will sweat you ass off on that very same day just by doing a little work in the Sun.

The Sun is HOTTER than it usually is. It's sending much more energy our way (heat is a measure of energy) which is creating more ENERGETIC storms. Surely man cannot cause an increase in volcanic or seismic activity. There is an underlying cause, and I believe that it is the Sun.
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Why does it matter how it is happening more than the fact that it is happening?
Expect drastic climate change.
It happened before, it will happen again, soon enough.
Now you know. How you deal with living without modern tech is up to the individual. Rock on.
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I'm sure someone will blame my V8 powered SUV...
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I work with a Tree-hugging vegan, and I drive a 7 seat Jeep Commander with a V8. She let's me know all the time how I'm killing the planet. She really hates it when I come back from hunting or fishing and tell my tales.
 Quoting: Wash


LOL dumb bitch probably doesn't even realize that hunting is good for certain animal species... like deer for example.

If we didn't hunt deer, when they experience a food shortage in the winter, the un-hunted deer population will STARVE. Would you tree-huggers rather the deer starve to death? Or would it better if we kill them while they're still healthy and respectfully use their bodies to feed and clothe our families?
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Why does it matter how it is happening more than the fact that it is happening?
Expect drastic climate change.
It happened before, it will happen again, soon enough.
Now you know. How you deal with living without modern tech is up to the individual. Rock on.
rockon
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What do you mean?

Of course it matter what is causing it. The parasitic governments of the world want to tax us because we're 'causing global warming' when in reality we have nothing to do with it.

Global warming is entirely beyond our control and we should just accept it as is and adapt as necessary.
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I don't care. That simple.
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quietest tornado season ever so far this year.
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Two words-

Polar Shift
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I am still not going to pay a carbon tax EVER!
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Suuuure.... everything is a carbon taxes conspiracy!

rolleyes

We're affecting our climate, HUMAN ACTIVITY IS PARTLY RESPONSIBLE, continue denying, soon enough there will be nothing to be denied anymore.
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Yeah and if a big, fat volcano decides to erupt and cool everything off? Oh well...
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Sea ice in the Arctic has melted to below four-million square kilometres, the lowest it has been for a million years, according to a noted sea ice geophysicist and climatologist.

Professor John Yackel from the University of Calgary said: "This is the smallest minimum ice extent we've ever had, and not just in the satellite record, but probably in the last million years."

“When there’s no longer that sea ice below the air mass and it's just open ocean, that’s when more moisture off the ocean’s surface gets into the atmosphere and the water vapor in the atmosphere makes for more violent storms,” said Yackel.

“We can also expect to see an increase in storm frequency and storm intensity for most of the world's populated places as the Arctic and Earth continues to warm.”

[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]
 Quoting: Wash


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I agree..

The bolded statement has me wondering.
Why make it a point to emphasize by characterizing the effects as such... ' for most of the world's populated places'..?
Storms don't singularly hit populated areas.

Shows some kind of bias, at the least. Ultra-green, would be my guess.
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Sea ice in the Arctic has melted to below four-million square kilometres, the lowest it has been for a million years, according to a noted sea ice geophysicist and climatologist.

Professor John Yackel from the University of Calgary said: "This is the smallest minimum ice extent we've ever had, and not just in the satellite record, but probably in the last million years."

“When there’s no longer that sea ice below the air mass and it's just open ocean, that’s when more moisture off the ocean’s surface gets into the atmosphere and the water vapor in the atmosphere makes for more violent storms,” said Yackel.

“We can also expect to see an increase in storm frequency and storm intensity for most of the world's populated places as the Arctic and Earth continues to warm.”

[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]
 Quoting: Wash


bsflag

Anyone can write anything for their psychopathic agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 831016


I agree..

The bolded statement has me wondering.
Why make it a point to emphasize by characterizing the effects as such... ' for most of the world's populated places'..?
Storms don't singularly hit populated areas.

Shows some kind of bias, at the least. Ultra-green, would be my guess.
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Its to scare you does not matter that the actual facts show the complete opposite.
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Please give us a carbon tax so we can reverse this ice melting. Winter is cancelled due to glow-bull warming, please tax my fart gas and let's go back to horse and cart and wood stoves.
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It's really such a shame that so many "scientists" refuse to be educated beyond the narrow scope of what they think matches their idea. They are supposed to be intelligent but intelligent people don't quit at a convenient place, they keep searching for the real truth. Why do they refuse to see that thesee Earth cycle changes that have been happening for billions of years? Money, I guess ot just plain obstinacy.
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meanwhile... at the south pole..
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Contrary to what all global warming deniers think, Antarctica has actually been warming in recent years.
Below there's an explanation about why the ice cap has not stated to decrease yet.
South Pole ice will be sharply decaying very soon and chaos and totally unpredictable catastrophe waits for us when this starts to happen!damned

In fact, the oceans surrounding Antarctica have warmed faster than the global trend, and there has been accelerated melting of ocean-terminating Antarctic glaciers in recent years as a result of warmer waters eating away the glaciers. There is great concern among scientists about the stability of two glaciers in West Antarctica (the Pine Island and Thwaites Glaciers) due the increase in ocean temperatures. These glaciers may suffer rapid retreats that will contribute significantly to global sea level rise.

Despite the warming going on in Antarctica, there has been a modest long-term increase in Antarctic sea ice in recent decades. So, how can more sea ice form on warmer ocean waters? As explained in an excellent article at skepticalscience.com, the reasons are complex. One reason is that the Southern Ocean consists of a layer of cold water near the surface and a layer of warmer water below. Water from the warmer layer rises up to the surface, melting sea ice. However, as air temperatures warm, the amount of rain and snowfall also increases. This freshens the surface waters, leading to a surface layer less dense than the saltier, warmer water below. The layers become more stratified and mix less. Less heat is transported upwards from the deeper, warmer layer. Hence less sea ice is melted (Zhang 2007). As the planet continues to warm, climate models predict that the growth in Antarctic sea ice will reverse, as the waters become too warm to support so much sea ice.
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It's really such a shame that so many "scientists" refuse to be educated beyond the narrow scope of what they think matches their idea. They are supposed to be intelligent but intelligent people don't quit at a convenient place, they keep searching for the real truth. Why do they refuse to see that thesee Earth cycle changes that have been happening for billions of years? Money, I guess ot just plain obstinacy.
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It's really such a shame that so many "scientists" refuse to be educated beyond the narrow scope of what they think matches their idea. They are supposed to be intelligent but intelligent people don't quit at a convenient place, they keep searching for the real truth. Why do they refuse to see that thesee Earth cycle changes that have been happening for billions of years? Money, I guess ot just plain obstinacy.
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"He who pays the piper plays the tune"
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Money.. the universal language.

I think it's 'picks the tune'.
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I'm sure someone will blame my V8 powered SUV...
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I work with a Tree-hugging vegan, and I drive a 7 seat Jeep Commander with a V8. She let's me know all the time how I'm killing the planet. She really hates it when I come back from hunting or fishing and tell my tales.
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LOL dumb bitch probably doesn't even realize that hunting is good for certain animal species... like deer for example.

If we didn't hunt deer, when they experience a food shortage in the winter, the un-hunted deer population will STARVE. Would you tree-huggers rather the deer starve to death? Or would it better if we kill them while they're still healthy and respectfully use their bodies to feed and clothe our families?
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I have tried that angle with her. She does not see it that way at all.
Roll Tide Roll.
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This is the problem I have with Scientists that say statements like this. Million years? Please prove! I'm all ears..I was taught in high school that a scientist can't vomit a statement without proving it! We can't even predict the damn weather tomorrow let alone retro prove what the earth was like a million years ago!!!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


The proof is in the pudding. Preponderance of evidence.
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That's it?? The proof is in the pudding? WTF man Sounds as intelligent as the paid shills that came out with the study!
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This is the problem I have with Scientists that say statements like this. Million years? Please prove! I'm all ears..I was taught in high school that a scientist can't vomit a statement without proving it! We can't even predict the damn weather tomorrow let alone retro prove what the earth was like a million years ago!!!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


The proof is in the pudding. Preponderance of evidence.
 Quoting: Waterbug


That's it?? The proof is in the pudding? WTF man Sounds as intelligent as the paid shills that came out with the study!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


A tad bit touchy, ain't we..?

All I meant was, the scientific study results of ice core sampling and geological evidence is not bullshit. Predicting the weather.. maybe.

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