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Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds

 
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Bump for synergy!

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Overload?

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Overload?

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naughty
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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and it is nice to see that you have not lost your touch .peace
Stickyfoot,i think i stepped in something
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Ie. The Vancouver Hockey Riots ?

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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
Every subpart holds the blueprint of the whole.

Congruence between thought, word, action etc etc is what
creates integrity.

All organizations larger than 1 person can be infiltrated.

Now is not time.
It is something else.

Shit.
I have become a "theme-person".

chuckle


peace
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
I'm just not sure Everything could play out in any other fashion.

If existence, then this.

Inevitable since something became discernable from nothing?

Nothing is new under the sun.
People in the Roman Empire complained of politicians losing their
integrity 2000 years ago.

Betcha it's the same everywhere, on all planets.
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Agree. Some say that this is done to better relieve the trauma that ensues to the psyche (spirit) from massive change occurring too quickly.

So, instead of hitting all at once, it is a stepped progression leading up to the massive change.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Change always occurs quickly whether we heed the signs or not.

That is why intent through action is imperative as it is a dynamic interpretation over dried and dead words.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus



but we have all the time in the world :-)

and i cannot pass by a description of words as 'dried and dead' in any sentence and hold my tongue - so forgive me if i miss your point in making mine
but
words have life , potential , a path and a power which cannot be underestimated or considered secondary to the action which interprets them
action begot from wrong thinking , has only one outcome
and if the words that transmit that thought are not correct
the action cannot be correct

words are an imperfect reflection of thought
so it's really the thoughts we should be focusing on, i feel
telepathy isn't globally perceived , so until then - we have to enshrine the power of our words with the respect they deserve , i think
as they are the best we have

although i entirely agree that the departures taken between words and action in all of us reveal a truer refelction of who we really are as opposed to how we see ourselves

what was your point again ? not trying to be facetious btw - genuinely wasn't sure if this was a description of 'all words' or just those of leaders ( who lie)

i'll get my coat
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Words must rival action in that one flows into the next without Irony's bitter twist. Seldom they do. Thus they are not intended with the vibration eminent in them, but the dry crust of deception.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus





'rivalry' between words and action implies a competitiveness which requires 'competitors'

i agree there is a rivalry taking place when words and actions are incoherent-a dry crust indeed
but doesn't that rivalry exist within the realm of thought and become manifest in the realms of words and actions

- words reflect thought , actions reflect thought
if there is rivalry , doesn't it have to spring from incohesion in the realm of thought

so isn't the most efficient way to assist the rebalancing sought best achieved through the realm of thought , individually and thus collectively , both concrete and abstract
and not the realm of action?

which is after all a little slow comparitively speaking ?
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Instead of falling into the arms of relief George Carlin provides, how about Phil Rockstroh (my golden thread of sanity just when I need it) and Rilke:
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The dilemma involves, to paraphrase Rilke, how will you spend the days of this finite life? Will you give into the compulsion to build a construction of ghostly artifice--life lived as a self-perpetuating lie that you are in control, that the caprice you conjure to ward off feelings of despair, regarding your powerlessness over the coursing flow of events, is an accurate description of your true nature? Will you create a bristling fortification of convenient cynicism, allowing you to remain ensconced within a dead womb of bile and ashes?

Or will you risk being the midwife of your own tale, grasping that there exist forces within you, when in dialog with the soul of existence, that are greater than the sum of your assumptions, that exist deeper and beyond life-negating banalities, such as winner and loser, shame and pride, and grief and happiness?

"So don't be frightened, dear friend, if a sadness confronts you larger than any you have ever known, casting its shadow over all you do. You must think that something is happening within you, and remember that life has not forgotten you; it holds you in its hand and will not let you fall. Why would you want to exclude from your life any uneasiness, any pain, any depression, since you don't know what work they are accomplishing within you?" "-Rainer Maria Rilke
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This election cycle, don't be afraid to walk away either if it insults your soul (it insults mine)
..and this on 9-11 moment when it all went bad~

"The television roused itself to life just at the moment of the collapse of the North Tower.

This was before the image was fetishized in the American imagination, was exploited by two U.S. presidential administrations to justify thousands of acts of military aggression on people of distant lands who only share one trait in common--they were born of the Islamic faith.

This was before George W. Bush played dress-up in military costumes and pranced about at military bases and the decks of naval vessels. This was before President Obama's brandishing of kill lists, his normalization and codification into law of Bush era war crimes and constitutional and human rights violations."


No good guys here, not then and certainly not now.
Does this all insult your soul? It does mine.
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
[link to www.freakonomics.com]

Just a funny podcast...called Riding the herd mentality...
Found it interesting.

I think if we inject more humor back into daily life we'd be far better off than the fear tactics that are currently driving things...

1dunno1
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Lol! Heard is not a place.

Later dude!

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Addiction simulation has taught me much. Im leaving, i am not. I am leaving, i am not.

Interesting escape mechanisms.

Gotta suck being stuck inbthe hotel california.

But there is more to life then sucking.

;)
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"We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one new delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first.
…Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."


-– Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1852
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..... Thought is difficult and painful. The difficulties and pain are due to confusion. From time to time, with enormous intellectual effect, someone creates a little order - a small spot of light in the dark sea of confusion. At first we are all dazzled by the light because we are used to living in the darkness. But when we regain our senses and examine the light we find it comes from a farthing candle - the candle of common sense. To change the metaphor, the sages chase their own tails through the ages. A little child says 'Gentlemen, you are chasing your own tails.' The sages gradually lose their angular momentum, and, glancing over their shoulders, see what they are pursuing. But most of them cannot believe what they see, and the tail chasing does not die out until a generation has passed.....

- S.y.n.g.e
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“Why is it that experts can sometimes be so entirely wrong, and yet so emphatic in their convictions? My own belief is that some of the reason lies in the success of "principles of impotence," particularly in modern physics. Somehow it seems part of the scientific approach to postulate impotence.”
—R V Jones, The Scientific Intelligencer
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We are not hopelessly isolated in time and space on a tiny rock, orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant galaxy. We are hopefully connected with the power and intelligence of the universe.
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 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals
Just wondering what your opinion or thoughts might be now that the elections are over.
There's nothing like Miami's heat....
...Padre Island, TX does beat it!
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
reminds me of what one german wrote of those enamored by hitler

"these people are enamored, captivated, they are absolutely insane"

Same can be said of modern day partisans in the USA. They are insane.
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bump
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
"A good man draws a circle around himself and cares for those within. His woman, his children.

Other men draw a larger circle and bring within their brothers and sisters.

But some men have a great destiny. They must draw around themselves a circle that includes many, many more.

Your father was one of those men. You must decide for yourself whether you are, as well. "
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
this has something to do with this thought. it goes like what if this were all there was? what if this life you live at this time was it. there is no after life well star dust that's for sure.i wonder if we didn't have all this after life/religion and we lived like this is it how different would even our madness be?
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
this has something to do with this thought. it goes like what if this were all there was? what if this life you live at this time was it. there is no after life well star dust that's for sure.i wonder if we didn't have all this after life/religion and we lived like this is it how different would even our madness be?
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who cares since it isn't the case...

?

not I
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
this has something to do with this thought. it goes like what if this were all there was? what if this life you live at this time was it. there is no after life well star dust that's for sure.i wonder if we didn't have all this after life/religion and we lived like this is it how different would even our madness be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36769466




who cares since it isn't the case...

?

not I
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exactly and prove that it isn't
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Mad crowd dis-ease.
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There's nothing like Miami's heat....
...Padre Island, TX does beat it!
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Re: Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds
"A good man draws a circle around himself and cares for those within. His woman, his children.

Other men draw a larger circle and bring within their brothers and sisters.

But some men have a great destiny. They must draw around themselves a circle that includes many, many more.

Your father was one of those men. You must decide for yourself whether you are, as well. "

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37054192


damn, I really like that.
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buseyjak
There's nothing like Miami's heat....
...Padre Island, TX does beat it!
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buseybump
There's nothing like Miami's heat....
...Padre Island, TX does beat it!

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