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John Lear may be wrong about Christ

 
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In still later times, Azazel is considered a demon, and is occasionally identified as the devil -- or as one of his chieftains.
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yeah, he was up to no good... it was kind of unpleasant... looked pretty cool, though... wings.

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what clothing was he wearing?
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they looked reddish, with like a golden sash... but it was not a clear dream... I had the feeling I wasn't supposed to remember that one, because it was kind of fuzzy...
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their original job was to watch over mankind and take care of us. but, they are fallen, and even tho they have the skills to visit, communicate and influence us, their agenda is evil and designed to get us to destroy ourselves.

the type they go for are the ones who do not accept Jesus as their king who reigns over them.

they are territorial and have legal right to stand on their own territory.
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personally, i think the dream was a prophetic message that my husband was going to die. which he did, a year ago January
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wow, I am sorry to hear you had to go through that... you are fortunate to have a child from the relationship though...

it may have catalyzed you to fearlessly seek... if you don't mind me saying this... since you seem pretty fearless..
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personally, i think the dream was a prophetic message that my husband was going to die. which he did, a year ago January
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wow, I am sorry to hear you had to go through that... you are fortunate to have a child from the relationship though...

it may have catalyzed you to fearlessly seek... if you don't mind me saying this... since you seem pretty fearless..
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thanks. my daughter is from a previous marriage. but, what was interesting is that when my husband died, my older son (21yrs) was moved out of the nest, which left just my daughter and myself in the picture. that's what was so unusual about the dream for me when i had it back in 2006. i was rarely at an outing with only my daughter.

fearless? lol... i suppose. more like "as close to God as one can get in my position"
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their original job was to watch over mankind and take care of us. but, they are fallen, and even tho they have the skills to visit, communicate and influence us, their agenda is evil and designed to get us to destroy ourselves.

the type they go for are the ones who do not accept Jesus as their king who reigns over them.

they are territorial and have legal right to stand on their own territory.
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yeah, and I think smoking herb somehow disconnects us if we are not careful and may allow our etheric bodies to be used... especially if we are sympathetic types and they can convince us it is for a good purpose... but now that i don't smoke I am more aware in my dreams and though not in control of my dreams, I am more spiritually smart in them...

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personally, i think the dream was a prophetic message that my husband was going to die. which he did, a year ago January
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wow, I am sorry to hear you had to go through that... you are fortunate to have a child from the relationship though...

it may have catalyzed you to fearlessly seek... if you don't mind me saying this... since you seem pretty fearless..
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thanks. my daughter is from a previous marriage. but, what was interesting is that when my husband died, my older son (21yrs) was moved out of the nest, which left just my daughter and myself in the picture. that's what was so unusual about the dream for me when i had it back in 2006. i was rarely at an outing with only my daughter.

fearless? lol... i suppose. more like "as close to God as one can get in my position"
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well, it is disappointing to see how many supposed truth-seekers who talk a big talk when it comes to ridiculing Christ, seem to crumple when truth points the other way...

I think this has something to do with demon spirits empowering some people and as soon as they lose this they are just puddy... stammer-stammering excuse trolls.... :)

have you seen Earthquake Kelly's testimonies? I think when you are close to Christ you have protection that pushes away other people's demons and makes them feel uncomfortable, if they are relying on them for their identity and/or do not have Christ in their lives...

It seems like God orchestrates events for the harvest and one of the hardest things for us is just to remain grateful... :)

it also seems like there are many of His creations who easily deny Him and so these times we are in seem destined to ratchet up in intensity...

that and the technocratic system we have set up seems designed to continue to encroach upon us on a sort of auto-pilot...

crazy reality we live in, wot? at least the food is pretty good...

:)
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Jesus ranks over all of the angels, fallen or otherwise.

i can't profess to say i understand the heirarchy of angels or those in the heavenly realms. but, it is rigid and iron-clad. solomon talked about it quite a bit.

fallen angels are still under rank and there is no moving away from it or getting out from under it. it is supernatural.

the best the fallen can hope for is keeping people away from knowing the Christ.

but, even that will not separate us from God.
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yup. there was a video I posted a while back on one man's experience being shown what's called the "second heaven" where the demon spirits and fallen angels reside...

they basically cannot access us without some kind of lawfulness based on free will--this takes many forms people seem to not be aware of, so they blame God or disbelieve... but Jesus Christ seems to be THE Law... he exhorts us to ask in his name... sometimes it is so difficult to do this or even read the bible... I find myself suddenly sleepy when I pray or try to read, and then 5 minutes later I am wide awake playing with my cats!

I try to read in the morning and with my wife at night...

I think my persistent prayer and reading the bible had basically closed off access from a lot of negative demon-inspired thoughts... and has empowered me in my dream states as well...

this vid gives another representation of the nature of the reality we are in... echos Earthquake Kelly and Carolyn Hamlett...

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"the basic principle of the demon spirits' operation is to make something evil as desirable, beautiful and non-threatening as possible, so that the person being targeted will lower his guard and be more susceptible..."

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to be gay is not a option, it is demonic possession. the satanic forces who controls this planet is making it ok to be gay, using msm to indoctrinate people and pervert humankind. Its part of the great plan to bring about the antichrist, he himself father of homosexuality, and homosexuals. Only those who saw the light really understands what is happening.

When two people of the same sex have an intercourse, always there are demons in the scene, watching and delighting, satanic energies floating all around, kind of a summoning of spirits, or a portal. Thats why this practice is forbiden by all religions on earth, including spiritism, and this is why god condems the one who practice it and even the one who agrees with it, the only sin you are condemned even if you dont practice, only agree. (romans 1:24-29)

Ever wondered why all satanic rituals always have homosexuals relationships?

You, homosexual, remember: its not you, this kind of desire doesnt comes from you, its a invader of your mind, and you can repel it.. be strong, fight against it.. demad him to leave in name of Jesus Christ. No one is ever born homosexual.
World is full of ex gays, but you never see in msm.. guess why?
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this might be true, but it seems likely that we are all subject to demonic influence in one form or another, and no one is blameless...

seeking a relationship with God and loving our fellow human beings is the most important law, according to Jesus Christ... we cannot hope to be perfect in this life, only made perfect by humility before God and the Lord's prayer...

many hetero men are subject to the same base "lustfulness" that you are referring to as demonic... the more I pray and read the Bible the less I tend to objectify women and feel these types of feelings...

it is true that homosexuality is pervasive in the occult and according to Kay Griggs, it is one of the fundamental means of control over the intelligence agents who are behind the scenes of world events, moving from one side to the other...

sex itself has been overly played up and made perverse... it seems like a truly loving relationship between men can exist without sex, as it can between a man and a woman...

but God's design does seem to allow for a certain amount of demonic influence as a catalyst to free will acceptance of Him and to perpetuate His creations... homosexuality may fall in the former category...

the consciousness of people in the Old Testament seems quite different to AD times, hence the reason it is specifically forbidden in the OT and not the NEw testament...

that said, Christ only speaks of marriage and divorce between men and women... likely since homosexuals are not traditionally a culture seeking to raise children...

free will is not so simple in its expression and God's creation can take many forms... so long as wanton hedonism is not the result, I do not see the issue of homosexuality as anyones business and if they want to marry, it seems like a step in the right direction, provided they live up to the higher values marriage vows imply... every truly loving relationship is not based on sex.

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Adding to the above, one of the things hindering my wife and I from having a child at this time is the idea of having to deal with the society and educational system...

I do not relish having to deal with all the ignorant parents who think my child should be vaccinated so their child can be "safe"... the stupidity of this kind of logic will drive me crazy... I mean, if they believe in vax, then they should be all set then, right? Increasingly, schools tell parents they have to have their kids vaccinated...not true! and they don't tell anyone how much money they get from the pharma for this poison... and that is what it is, sadly.

I used to have a good link on a Navy Seal biologist talking about the link between vax and autism... the crap (squalene, thimerosal, etc) they put in the vax causes microscopic strokes, which is basically what autism is...

a mother who lost her son has a youtube somewhere... she did lots of research on vaccines and found that there are books about how the science is rubbish and in fact the diseases they were vaccinating for were on the decline when before they introduced them, and furthermore, many new diseases arose since they made them widespread...

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So, the vaccine issue, which is definitely ratcheting up--it seems only a matter of time before the WHO (who?) mandates vaccines for everyone...

the reality is this is probably one of the leading causes of strokes in all of us...

there are foods that detox and act as natural statins... I take them every day... when I was sick from 911 I was having daily heart attacks...

the reality is, if you suffer from any illness or dis-ease, yes it is psychosomatic and prayer can heal you, but detoxing is also a path and the bible does say the body is a temple for a reason...

Jenny McCarthy's son had autism and she healed him with a very intensive detox regimen you can find online... her testimony is also all over the internet, because she prayed to God for a cure and promised Him if she found the cure she would tell everyone... no surprise when she did she and Jim Carry broke up... they were probably targeted... demonically would have been sufficient, if they were not praying every day and spiritually smart...

toxins open us up to demonic spirits in the same way that hallucinogens can...

I am not saying hallucinogens have to have this result--my jury is still out... I have had incredible spiritual experiences and felt closer to God at times, on entheogens... but for now, I choose to be without this kind of consciousness...

lsd has been known to cure people of alcoholism, and I would guess mushrooms would do the same, under the right circumstances, I think there may be an important reason these things grow naturally...

:)
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The evidence suggests that the diseases that run rampant are by design... why were ufos always seen in the sky above cities in Europe before outbreaks of the plague?

there are simple herbs that can protect the elite, and eating with real silverware also probably protected, by allowing mono-atomic silver into the diet...

the Spanish flu, rampant lime disease, swine flu, HIV--all have evidense leading to man-made origins...

God allows these catalysts... just read an article by an ad exec who was dying with cancer writing about what a waste of time his occupation is... many of his peers read this and were scandalized... but some may have woken up from the stupor of their Godlessness...

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Jesus says: wo to those with children in the end times...

this made my heart sink to read and think about the times we are in... to some extent nothing has changed... but technocratically, and in many ways, these times are different... no less the Brzynski said it is easier to kill masses of people than to control them nowadays...

Bill Gates has dedicated his billions to open population control... many elite talk about this...

so to have a child in these times?

I dunno... we are pretty happy with cats... this is, of course, probably by design...

part of me wants to have a large family and set them loose on the system...

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But for those who worry about homosexuals having children... I say, what about the State? I would worry more about the technocracy hell-bent to microchip and control my children...

for that matter, gays have a longer history of butting heads with the system and they seem to like it!

so I would enjoy having some gay brothers and sisters by my side when we argue with the school system about vaccinating our children and fluoridating and chlorinating the water and the shite foods when studies show grades go up when nutrition does...

I see a lot of sheep accepting a lot of sheering in this system...

a man can't even grow a weed in this system without the law coming down... how free are we really?

the elite think we are lazy and they are right... so long as we allow our children to be murdered and poisoned and made ignorant by this system...

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Youtube--All Known Footage of Second plane impact (WTC tower)

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This footage has a couple of interesting anomalies that point to the "no plane" theory...

1) the nose obviously looks like it goes through the building from certain angles... whoops! someone forgot to turn the projector off...

2) when I first saw this footage I thought they did it in post-production within minutes of the event actually happening, and the fcp editor screwed up... but many of the images have this anomaly in it.

3) sometime after the 8 minute mark you can see a strange black craft moving very fast and mirroring the plane's flight path, then veering 90 degrees away after impact... was this craft somehow involved? Perhaps it was cloaked while it was projecting and then uncloaked to avoid shrapnel from the explosion... in the ensuing need to make haste and hit the petal to the metal, they screwed up the holograph of the plane slightly??

4) there is another youtube out there of a camera crew in a helicopter who pan over to see a small craft hovering near one of the towers... were they making some last minute measurements or taking a dry run? the craft in the above video appears much bigger than the one I am speaking of, but if they had Navy Space Command involved, they likely had multiple scouts and observers nearby.

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I am posting a video I made in the months after 911... it was supposed to be in an art show in 2003, but the gagosian gallery and others let it be known that artists were not supposed to make art about 911 and many artists who wanted a career fell in line... Louise Bourgeoise personally called me to ask me (albeit indirectly) not to put this in a group show she was kind enough to take part in...

I liked Louise a lot and she did not directly ask me, she simply asked me repeatedly if the curator was my friend until I said yes and promised not to show it... Louise was one of the most established artists who was trying to help me "get up" in the arts... we hd a real affinity for each other that always made me wish we had more time together... she is one of the best artists I have ever known and one of the best of the 20th century. rest in peace Louise!

Manifest Destiny

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Video includes my personal footage of Mayor Guiliani, 911 tower 2 implosion from a few blocks away, as well as close up footage of tower 7 after it imploded...
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Louise Bourgeois was one of the coolest ladies I have ever met... her art is amazing and she was someone often feared by others... she had a presence about her that was incredible and when she wanted to make a point sometimes she would open her eyes wide and you could easily get lost in the beautiful blue orbs of her soul... if I had been smarter and not so self-destructive I would have asked her if I could work for her... but then, if I had been less of an artist we probably would never have connected the way we did... we really liked each other and this chemistry is rare.

It is sad and ridiculous that many female artists who think they know art do not know her work... she was the Picasso of her day... I think conceptually she was maybe better than Picasso...

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If anyone else had asked me to remove a piece of art from a show I would have told them to f-off...

I don't think she really cared--it was the curator who asked her to intervene and she, being a kind-hearted person, did.

I actually showed this piece at her salon first. Greta Garbo's grandson was there and we shared a smoke outside and he told me crap was going to hit the fan because of some of the other people there that day... yup, crap hit the fan. just after i showed this to the other artists there the room erupted and some dude got in my face and before I knew it Louise's son got involved and I didn't know it was her son and so we got into it and he kicked me out!

That was the first time I was kicked out of her salon... :)

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Before that happened Louise had great fun putting me in "the hot seat" directly across from her, so she could ask me questions and watch as people got pissed off by my replies! She loved to see human passions and drama--I think it inspired her.

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we have been mind controlling the globe since 43 way down south, so our robots might say anything misleading,lol...Tesla invented voice to skull technology..not only can it beam voices into your head,it can also read your brain patterns from birth and log your brain patterns as you use your 5 senses...if that's not enough,dummy signals of your brain patterns can be sent to your brain...i gave everyone the keys to get out of our experiments in my 777 thread..my title> Vertretungen...me came out of operation paperclip...that's our CIA,started by SS officers whom were thought to be dead...you sheep have no clue unless you choose to wake up with the keys i was authorized to give everyone...history isn't how you think it is,thanks to the set up...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Louise Bourgeois' Salon was one of the best kept secrets in the art world of NYC.. people from all around the world and from many different backgrounds came and showed work there. Curators would come to be inspired and artists who didn't mind a potentially competitive and/or highly critical environment, could show their work...

it was a place where media types, curators and artists could come together in an informal and yet intense classical setting...

one time an artist came and showed us video of how she could channel demon spirits and smash her mother's good china she had apparently inherited...

Louise asked if she could do this on command and she said 'yes.'

So Louise asked her to show us and the artist took a flower I had brought for Louise and walked around the room muttering all kinds of insanities, all the while holding the flower in her hand rather protectively... when she was done Louise asked me what I thought.

I stood up, took the flower from the vase and turned to the artist and asked: "Why didn't you smash the flower like you smashed your mother's china?" And then I proceeded to smash the flower against Louise's desk and turn to her and say: "Cut the bullshit!"

And Louise turned to the artist and said: "Yeah, cut the bullshit!"

The artist started crying and I decided maybe I had gone too far and went out front for a smoke, at which point Louise's son kicked me out for the second time...

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we have been mind controlling the globe since 43 way down south, so our robots might say anything misleading,lol...Tesla invented voice to skull technology..not only can it beam voices into your head,it can also read your brain patterns from birth and log your brain patterns as you use your 5 senses...if that's not enough,dummy signals of your brain patterns can be sent to your brain...i gave everyone the keys to get out of our experiments in my 777 thread..my title> Vertretungen...me came out of operation paperclip...that's our CIA,started by SS officers whom were thought to be dead...you sheep have no clue unless you choose to wake up with the keys i was authorized to give everyone...history isn't how you think it is,thanks to the set up...
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Hi Rad... I will check out your keys... but you might want to try my key: Jesus Christ... I know, I know... all the reasons: he didn't really exist, he is part of the matrix of control, he is the epitome of mind control used since Babylon, etc etc...

but my research says otherwise, my friend...

and I am very well aware of the damage being done with EMFs, ELFs and the amazing technologies afforded our controlling brothers in the three-letter world... especially regarding mind-control and the millions, potentially, who are in sleeper mode waiting to be activated for end times fun...

but there are rules, my friend... everyone has to go by the rules... and I don't really want to be here in this 3d forever anyway... Jesus Christ is the LAW around these parts, cowboy...

:)
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Hey John--I'm gaining on ya: only 485,000 to go!

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Manifest Destiny

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Space Command

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(I Still Love) America

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Personal 911 footage set to a song I wrote and performed with a friend while living in NYC in the aftermath of the tragedy...

According to mathematician Kurt Godel, within every formal logical system there are problems not solvable nor conclusively determinable.*

Metaphysicist Heinz von Foerster states that the first root of the word "science" is "sci," which is an Indo-European word for "separation." He further states that in this reality there is simply too much information for any theory to be absolutely correct. Science and mathematics is actually a poem written by self-interested parties towards certain goals, by creating systems (to over-come the separation of science) and by promoting them with media. This is why Quantum Physics requires a vacuum and Planck's Constant, that do not actually exist anywhere and why scientists continually make up new particles and theories to justify the dominant paradigm. *

The theory of Evolution is another example of this, as it is a poem designed to make us believe we must and should compete with each other, when that was not the loving design originally intended by God and Christ's teachings. See Walter Veith's extensive videos explaining the absurdities inherent in the science of evolution. 911 is the epitome of this kind of poem, writ large for the masses, yet obviously not what we were told it was. If anything, it should be called "survival of those who cooperate the best."

I first showed this video piece at Louise Bourgeois' Salon in NYC. I did not understand it at the time, but it is an expression of the madness of modern society and culture that has become increasingly Godless and mis-directed by demonic supernatural forces (as can be seen in the smoke itself when the towers collapsed--this is well documented by others). It is also an expression of the profundity of God-given free will. Within the incredible design of this reality there is both intelligence and infinite potential. Our reality can be anything we want it to be under God's laws. The current technocratic poem being written by self-interested elitist people does not reflect Christ, but a supernatural demonic desire to control God's creation and enslave humanity.**

God is in control, and gives us free will to choose Him or not--this is "the harvest" and true purpose of existence here. Yet God allows the horrors of tragedies like 911, in essence, because we do. This is why the untruth is so self-evident in terms of the "poem" of the media story of 911: the truth controlling us must be put out and we must agree to it, for it to continue. It is the abyss gazing back at us when we turn away from God.

*see: The Net - The Unabomber. LSD and the Internet to understand this;
**as well, see: Roger Morneau, Mark Cleminson and Carolyn Hamlett, among others, who speak of this supernatural plan to control humanity and how and why events are unfolding as they are in ways that do not serve us.
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911 Bike Ride

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On September 11, 2001, I awoke to the Fedex man ringing my buzzer. It was around 9 am and the world already knew that something horrible was happening downtown at the World Trade Center.

My first inkling was when the Fedex man gave me my package and he mumbled hurriedly: "You're lucky."

I asked him what he meant and he said: "Haven't you heard? A plane hit the towers downtown."

Being a long-time resident of NYC, I knew that the Empire State Building had been hit by a plane in its past and that aside from one or two deaths, it was a minor event, though historically significant. As someone who loved NYC and often documented things i encountered, especially in the arts, I grabbed my camera and rode down to the site to get some footage. As soon as I got outside I sensed something very odd and by the time I hit China town a few blocks from my apt., I began to shoot video to try to capture what I was experiencing...

This video basically captures this bike ride. I only learned later that by the time I got close enough to take video of the second tower, the first had just fallen. It was unfathomable to consider that this had happened and anyway, I took comfort in the familiarity of being behind the camera capturing what was going on. It was a truly apocalyptic feeling. I have only recently been able to grasp the true implications of that day and the separation from God that it truly represents.

In the aftermath of this event I became seriously ill due to toxicity exposure. Anyone who is ill from this event or for any reason should visit NYDETOX.ORG and read the testimonials--it works! Using this and super nutrition I was able to rid myself of daily heart and chest pains, shortness of breath and knee lock-up/pain.
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David "Icke"


my guess is there are different factions and one of them has been promoting Icke and the other demoting him...

either way, he is "controlled opposition" meant to stir things up... often he uses fear and warns people to wake up or the worst will happen... then in the same breath, that the system is crumbling and we will not be enslaved by it...

it is a joke... we enslave ourselves with our free will... the supernatural element is working through people here and he is misdirecting this towards "lizards" rather than luciferians...

did I mention he is also a Christ denier--he has changed his mind since his early writings... same old same old...





GLP