Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge(Gnosis) & End Times Deception-That old serpent-(Kundalini) was cast down to Earth with his angels and they dece

fruit of life:
a little magnetic plasma
container for fusion,
lighting up the sky.

it seems contradictory that the devil wants us to open our third eye. if you look at how the government and big corporations conspire to poison us, they actually close off our pineal gland/thalamus with fluoride and other toxins.

unless you think they do this so that we will want to purify ourselves of this when we become too toxic.

which still doesn't make sense because it seems like you're advocating eating unhealthy food, regardless of what it does to our pineal gland.

it doesn't add up.

but maybe it's not a simple matter of addition.

but there do appear to be contradictions in what you're saying and what's going on.

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What contradiction? Point them out please. As far as flouride "califiying" our pineal gland I dont know if that is true. I belive that may be information put out for the purpose to use "reverse psychology"on the masses and get us trying to open up a so called third eye, which is the eye of lucifer. Part of his genetic makeup. Hence Daniel 2:43 about them mixing THIER SEED with THE SEED OF MEN. I believe aiming to open and opening the third eye is to worship his image.
I don't think it part of our original genetic makeup. I believe It's a corruption of our DNA and image. Not part of the image God created us/man in.
Does flouride calify the pineal? I dont know but I do know that after coming into that information many people will go and seek to "decalcify" and then go onto meditation which is the means by which "chakras" and the "third eye" are opened. These are portals we open to the devil and his demons to posess and incarnate in us. Not a GOOD thing at all!!

Like consider isaiah 30:7 For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose: therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit still. [link to www.biblegateway.com] Thier strength is to sit still. Sounds like the new age right? Meditation, sitting upright, all of these teachings come from Egypt, ultimately. Yes you can leave your body through sitting still and meditation but only with the help of Demons. Do you really want that? Freedom comes through the spirit of the LIVING Creator, not by looking inside ourselves as "they" our advasaries would propagate and lead us to believe..
Proverbs 18:1-2 Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom.2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. Yeah doesnt that sounds familiar? Am I the only one who gets into this stuff? 500 friends almost? I know I'm not the only person seeking intangible things, i.e. spiritual things.

Interesting to note is the gematria equivalant(the numerical value of a word) of the following things...."ajna(third) eye open" in English Gematria Equals: 666, as does "open Chakras", as does "demon inside", as does "mark of beast" as does "image of satan" as does "forehead eyes" as does Lustful, stubborn, image of satan, sanskrit, illusion, the eden snake and much more. Coincidence? Ha! I highly doubt it.

Okay, pretty plain and simple is the mystery at this point in time. The "image the whole world will Worship, aside from the elect" Rev 13:8, Is that of The Pharoahs Image, From Ancient Egypt, with it's SNAKE Mark of the Forhead, symbolic of an "open third eye" or rather demon infestation/worship. This is I belive the current You know who...Who was cloned....Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
This is Anti-Christ-As fortold, who comes with all lying signs and wonders, 2 thessalonians 2:1-10. Now you know why there is a pyramid on the back of the dollar bill with an eye on top and much encoded on the dollar bill. It's all been mapped out from long ago and now everybody will be given a choice. Some have already made it. If you havent been sealed in water baptism with a genuine annointing of the holy spirit you will be given over to strong delusion and made to worship this thing when it comes out in full view. You may not take the mark in the forhead but the monetary Chip will be mandatory or it's off with your head, Rev 20:4. Hope any of you may benifit from this.

People just need to be born again by The Blood of Jesus/Messiah no matter who you are or where you came from !

you said it.

it's absolutley true what he is saying. But since your mind is already made up, and you would never consider that you have it backwards, you'd probably never research that. You'll find plenty of evidence of your truth of course. Isn't it funny that religion is the ONE truth yet everything else discussed on this website is lies. Has it ever dawned on you that even that is distorted as well. Even though if you look up the chemicals in the food, water etc. the evidence if irrefutable.

The question here (and excuse me i didnt read this whole thread) is.. Is your third eye open? Because if not, then you are NOT basing your opinions on first hand experience. You are basing it on what you read, or heard. That is a belief, not an experience.

Never seen a copy & paste shill before.

What constitutes an open third eye if there is no such thing as a third eye? Aside from a demon coming into your mind and giving you sight. the so-called myth of the third eye being located in the pineal gland region is only a fabricated myth. That was designed only to get people to empty their minds, thus lowering their natural defenses, and open up doorways to possession. That comes from a former illuminati memeber himself.

Exactly

It doesn't add up because you are equating truths and untruths.
"Going within"...meditation....seeks to quiet and silence the conscience. It's practitioners are sold on the idea that this benefits us in many supposed ways - calming, finding "god", finding "hidden knowledge", learning to love oneself, gaining psychic powers, realising that you are "god"...those who try meditation are perceiving those things to be of value. Eve perceived the fruit to be good via the senses, did she not? This perception by the senses and it's subsequent desire produced her action which was forbidden (eating the fruit). I saw, I coveted, I took...I sinned.

Adam had the Truth. He was her conscience, the part which knows right from wrong, which she overruled by the desires which she believed were more true and right. . Of course, she was deceived into eating. Adam wasn't. He ate.

So let's look at meditation and drug induced trips which are the rage today. What they both do is the same - they silence the rational conscious knowledge which most of know as "right and wrong, good and evil" and which keeps many of us on a relatively even path. If a desire wells up in someone to steal, usually the conscience prevents us from acting out on that desire. But what happens when that rational part of us is suppressed through drugs or silenced in meditation? What then is the "check" on our inner most desires? Well, it's no longer there doing it's job.

So many studies on meditation and drug fuelled trips show three common outcomes of these practices
1) the "inner" thoughts lead it's hearers to believe that we ALL are part of a global oneness, a global "consciousness"
2) the "inner" thoughts" lead it's hearers to believe that they are actually divine, a god
3) the "inner" thoughts" then lead it's hearers to believe that there is no such thing as rational objective duality such as good and evil and male and female for example. Out of this for example, they become convinced that murder isn't really an evil but something that man defined as evil. Or that pedophilia is a societally designated evil, instead of a real evil. Likewise, male and female is no longer real either!

Our God equates the heart to thoughts. So when He states that "All men's hearts are evil" you may understand what He is truly saying. Now look above at those common outcomes of "going within" and imagine that a sizeable percentage of the world starts to believe that taking human life is not really an evil. Or that pedophilia is not really an evil. Can you not see how it is going to lead to mass murder and mass wickedness unleashed on innocent children, as we are seeing rise in this world today? Our emergency rooms and mental wards are flooded with patients, people are eating other peoples faces....and yet are leaders are claiming drugs and bath salts. Yet nobody is raising the awareness of these hidden dangers of meditation? That meditation is being crept into our schools and unleashed on the minds of children? If you certainly can't imagine the horror of living with millions of your neighbours thinking that they are god and thinking that true evils "are really not evils" so therefore they can love up your five year old or kill you thinking that it's not really wrong.....

Opening the "third eye" today, in the condition inherited from our first parents, is tantamount to becoming the son of perdition sitting in the temple of God (your body) proclaiming yourself to be god. And if you to fully believe God, then you will define your own good and evil, and guess what THAT's going to based from? Your inner wicked thoughts! So if you have secret desires to have sex with a five year old, what do you think that your "inner voice" is going to tell you about pedophilia ? That it's an abomination or that it will actually benefit the child? The latter.

We are all witnessing and living in the times that Our Loving God said would happen. The OP is right, if you are listening to the mouthpieces of wicked men about pineal gland calcification, it's simply reverse psychology. These wicked men are simply drugging us to keep us in la la land is more like it, pacifying that rational thought which leads to psychosis. God doesn't need you to seek opening that gland because He is all powerful.

Thanks..

Whos the shill? That's YOUR NAME.

What happens, O.P. is that your original message was so HUGE and complex that few people cared to READ ALL and even fewer were able to understand what you were trying to say. I think I did.

My thinking is we're caught in some part of the kaleidoscopic jigsaw puzzle, we're trapped in this 3D dimension running and spinning like hamsters in the wheel of this reality.
All civilizations depict the same tree of life and water of life and Eden images. The shamans SAW this reality which requires no explanation. It's like that in that invisible realm in interdimensional reality. However, as you wrote from the beginning,the Illuminati and others who practice esoterism and opening of the third eye CAN'T LIVE FOREVER so we are banned from that OTHER tree, the tree of everlasting life. We can have access to the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE only. That's the problem because Satan, the winged-snake ancient dragon hanashash (and not just a flesh and bone snake nahash) said we could be like gods knowing good and evil and God confirmed that. Shamael snake said we wouldn't die and God confirmed if Adam and Eve had access to that everlasting fruit WE INDEED COULD LIVE, so after expressing his concern, he banned them from Eden.
Fact is that Eden and Adam and Eve belong to other reality beyond earth, perhaps androgyn creature male-female and not flesh and bone.. the same reality of Eden.
Hence the transgresion with the dragon perhaps happened in THAT realm and when later on we became humans like we are, now we have two hemispheres in the brain and we are SPLIT in two, we have a tree and a snake even within our brain and we have the kundalini energy inverted as well.

Christ indeed mentioned the opening of the SINGULAR EYE but it seems unlike Eve's opening of her eye... it is not based upon the twisted snake wrapped around sex but maybe has to be awaken FROM THE HEART which is something perhaps 0.0001 % of mankind could do, so narrow is the path. If a gnostic doesn't spill his SEED or semen he would probably have a hell of a headache and doesn't mean he developed his heart chakra. Who can actually?

Not even Illuminati can stretch our miserable life. Parrots and swans have a better lifespan. That means evolution is crazy and has no purpose or God is sadistic. I don't think he (or shall I call it she or he/she or it?) is but because the INTERVENTION we are a stage for the whole universe. The outcome of freewill. Every creature in the universe is a witness of our disgrace which in their view maybe mankind lifespan is like butterflies' lifespan.

In Revelation it's said Lord was crucified IN SODOMAH AND EGYPT... could it be he had to get rid of hand, foot, an eye and sexual organs purpose or what?

Your post is seen as something confusing because people are not prepared and never cared to read the Bible in first place. The meditation within is seen as something evil from New Age. They never read Mathew with Christ's word talking about praying to the HIDDEN FATHER... hidden is occult. They never understood what was the meaning of the seed buried in the "soil", the pearl beneath the depth of the sea, the mustard seed which ought to be sprinkled to grow like a tree FROM INSIDE US, they lack the understanding of the kingdom WITHIN in original Greek.

Groups of wise men like the Shemsu Hor (the Followers of Horus) absolutely could and did maintain a brotherhood of initiates that continued for thousands of years and brought knowledge and secret leadership to many people.

There is a huge undercurrent of hidden wisdom in the Bible for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear and understand parables.


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You want to know what the tree of knowledge is? This is from a post in another thread. Here's an intriguing passage from our Father. KJV biblegateway.com John 16:12-13 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

At the time of the apostles, the full truth could not be borne. So; at some point it must be told, and all will be revealed including the secrets of Daniel. The sad thing has been, if we could not bear the truth, then did we bear a lie? I have meditated on this many times, and ask Father why we must bear a lie when the truth will set you free, and he has requested that we worship our God in truth and spirit.

It is time to ask for the spirit of truth and to do as Jesus said in Matthew 21:21
" Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done."
Clearly, from Judges 9:11 (interesting it is 9/11)
King James Version (KJV) biblegateway.com
11 But the fig tree (a tree has the power to speak) said unto them, Should I forsake my sweetness, and my good fruit, and go to be promoted over the trees?
and the commentary Jesus made on the fig tree, it is the cursed tree of knowledge. When we make a conscience decision to worship God in truth in spirit, and reject the false fruit of the fig tree, we are well on our way to speaking for the truth in spirit.

If the Kingdom is amidst you, and God dwells on Mount Zion then where would this mountain be cast, and where would the road for the prodigal son be to go home? If the multitude is gathered in the air before God, then is this solid ground we head to or do we stand on air? The half hasn't been told.

Wow thats alot mixed together
I red some and then came the textwall and i had to stop.

I believe the origins of gnosis and all that religion and also the occult etc. is meant to help those that are lost half way or simply needs help, because we as people here on this strange beautiful terrifying planet have basically lost our memory and relation to the invisible in other words.

Some people including me have had a VERY VERY hard time mentally, psychologically, spiritually and so forth and we have gone around blindfolded with books with half truths around us where ever we looked, our search to find God or something extra we could have to comfort us in has been our only real hope to try to understand the why,what,when and who, especially why we are here.

It is natural to cling to religion and faith and try to have something to grasp after when it all seams darker than coal.

But then again so Manny books written and so Manny words, and each book that each person reads gives a slight different perspective of what the words mean

And the danger from a preacher of any kind that mis interprets those words, because the author that did write the books are no longer present in human form to talk to that preacher etc.

Missing links

Anyway i like this line from your text
Never quite understanding that we are living and reliving the choreography of one primary narrative structure.
And that rings true to me

Those that find something often get insane, just like you state all that third eye and kundalini stuff can cause brain damage and insanity, or the forbidden fruit etc.
Somewhere i remember it is written that, the tree is guarded by a flaming sword maybe it is not for all.


A simple life is golden
Protect people from God? is that it?

I would just like to add that i did believe in some god when i was a child, BEFORE i started in school and plunged into the internet, then serious shit happened.

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There are two trees in the garden: the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil", which refers to the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"; and the "Tree of Life" (Genesis 3:24) which is, specifically, a reference to the Vision of the "Son of man", which represents the non-dualistic consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27)

The "Tree of Life", by the way, is guarded by "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword."

The words from the Book of Daniel that have remained "secret and sealed until the time of the End", by the way, can be 'unsealed' only by someone who has received both the "Vision of Knowledge" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which includes the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives. That is, the "time of the End" (Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel) must be understood as being the same as "time will be no longer" in Revelations 10:5-7. That is, the Revelation of Truth occurs in the absence of time; time originating in the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker'.

Michael

lol spinning backwards .. But dunno about the kombo.

...i have a smelly willy syndrome atm with egg shell that fades nicely after a while i think.

just shine like a star and bring light from within(5D-INFINITY) towards outside in this world(3d-4d)
the inner world is bigger than the outside world
all the outside parallel realities are just the past
God Is Unconditional Love(He Loves Us All No Matter What=Stop The Fear..You Are With God)
We Are All His Children With Equal Rights But Different Perspectives
We Already Have God Inside Our Hearts
The People Who Told You what To do(Governments, Religion etc) are in fact not listening to God.

They Don't Obey God Cause They Are Telling You(Part Of God) What To Do..So They Believe That They Are Greater Than God (The Original Sin: To Be Better Than God)

So God Tells You: Do Everything That What Makes Happy And Fulfilled And Stop Listening What The Others Are Telling You(Aliens, Governments, Rational Thinking, People)

You Can't Be God, Not Above Him, Not Under Him..ONLY FOREVER WITH HIM

LOVE PEACE AND BALANCE TO EVERYONE

But you dont understand .. You need to find a new home when i dont get 20000,- euro.

Yesterday btw ... So that you can do the interiour by yourself.

Even ancient Chinese ideograms confirm there were TWO TREES:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
However Ezekiel 28 indicates the watcher cherub was kicked out from Eden..

(the text compared the king of Tyrus who was as cocky as that creature was and we know in Tyrus they worshipped Mars god of war)

... due to his arrogance and I don't think this is something just within our heads but from other interdimensional realm. The FXs of such fallen creature mentioned in other cultures we have seen in our bodies now...

Time will be no longer... well, that also happens while we dream, no notion of sequence or time. I guess this is also what happens with the people who have glimpses of the opening of the third eye, whatever they see which is as colorful as fascinating, makes them believe they have achieved something which is also part of the deception because after that vision they recover the everyday mortal awareness and will day like everyone else.
As I said we are trapped in this 3D reality and we don't have access to the everlasting fruit of the other tree.

Oops, I wanted to write "and will die..."

Michael. You are correct. The beginning of sin was for satan to tell Eve she could be as God. That is lie number 1. In this effort doubt is created within the earthbound of what our Great God can do.

That's why Matthew 21:19-21 is key as follows from biblegateway.com KJV: 19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!

21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

He says if you have faith and DOUBT NOT!!!! Judges 9:11 and the above passage proves that the fig tree is the tree of knowledge. Christ is telling you to follow him and rebuke the false fruit of the fig tree. When that is done, you will be on a path to have total faith in God restored, and all will be given to you because you live for the Kingdom of God instead of for the world.

No.

The "time will be no longer" mentioned in the Revelation of John is specifically with regards to the receiving of the Vision of the "Son of man". The person is fully awake. The Vision occurs in no "time". And the Knowledge conveyed by the Vision is beyond the thoughts of the 'thinker' all of which occur during time. ("As high as the heavens are above the earth are My thoughts above your thoughts."--Chapter 55:9 of the Book of Isaiah)

We live in this 3d reality, yes. Specifically, the consciousness of the "self" is a 3d 'spatiality' of consciousness which is extended in time by the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

But there is also a third dimension of consciousness which is both non-spatial and non-temporal (by which it is capable of conveying memories of previous lives, Prophecies and predictions of the future, and information by way of telepathy). Thus, while we must live in the 3d reality, we also have access to information from a non-spatial and non-temporal consciousness which exists prior to 'the Fall'.

Michael

You are attempting to trivialize a Revelation into nothing more than a fairy tale. There were no words between Satan and Eve. That is not what the symbols mean.

What there was was a differentiation from the non-dualistic consciousness Created by and in the image of God into the 'fallen' dualistic consciousness of the "self". This occurred by means of the 'movement' of self-reflection, symbolized by the "great dragon, the primeval serpent, known as the devil or Satan who had deceived all the world." (Revelations 12:9) prior to the thoughts of any 'thinker'.



There is no such thing as the "tree of knowledge". The tree is the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" which refers to the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self".

You cannot simply cut off the last four words of the term as if they have no meaning.

Michael