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Sinkhole update................ “Heed evacuation orders”

 
beeches

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Information about methane: I once got a noseful of it
and it really is odorless - from a clean but unused toilet I was trying to unplug.

It felt like inhaling a plastic sheet. All of a sudden my
lungs had no traction, no air, could barely breathe.

I ran out of there so fast I have no memory of it.
At the hospital 15 minutes later my heart rate was over 182.

It stayed up for a while, but I was fine a few hours later.
The staff had never heard of methane from unused toilets, but apparently it does collect in the pipes sometimes.

The treatment was supportive - they had to figure out just what it was, and by then my body was handling it.
 Quoting: beeches


Bad scene.
I'm sure you know this.. but for those who don't..

The modern toilet is designed to block sewer gases by trapping water in the turn built into the toilet. If there is no water in the toilet.. it doesn't block the sewer gases.

The P trap under the sink does the same.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Really, thanks for the info, WB! I would give you karma if I understood the darn system. Maybe plumbing should have some kind of valve to shut if the pipes are going to be dry for any length of time.
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Information about methane: I once got a noseful of it
and it really is odorless - from a clean but unused toilet I was trying to unplug.

It felt like inhaling a plastic sheet. All of a sudden my
lungs had no traction, no air, could barely breathe.

I ran out of there so fast I have no memory of it.
At the hospital 15 minutes later my heart rate was over 182.

It stayed up for a while, but I was fine a few hours later.
The staff had never heard of methane from unused toilets, but apparently it does collect in the pipes sometimes.

The treatment was supportive - they had to figure out just what it was, and by then my body was handling it.
 Quoting: beeches


Bad scene.
I'm sure you know this.. but for those who don't..

The modern toilet is designed to block sewer gases by trapping water in the turn built into the toilet. If there is no water in the toilet.. it doesn't block the sewer gases.

The P trap under the sink does the same.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Really, thanks for the info, WB! I would give you karma if I understood the darn system. Maybe plumbing should have some kind of valve to shut if the pipes are going to be dry for any length of time.
 Quoting: beeches


That isn't a bad idea. I know of no codes that require it.. maybe they should.
Might be a business opportunity in the idea.
Automatic water-activated valve. No water.. valve closes.
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Information about methane: I once got a noseful of it
and it really is odorless - from a clean but unused toilet I was trying to unplug.

It felt like inhaling a plastic sheet. All of a sudden my
lungs had no traction, no air, could barely breathe.

I ran out of there so fast I have no memory of it.
At the hospital 15 minutes later my heart rate was over 182.

It stayed up for a while, but I was fine a few hours later.
The staff had never heard of methane from unused toilets, but apparently it does collect in the pipes sometimes.

The treatment was supportive - they had to figure out just what it was, and by then my body was handling it.
 Quoting: beeches


Bad scene.
I'm sure you know this.. but for those who don't..

The modern toilet is designed to block sewer gases by trapping water in the turn built into the toilet. If there is no water in the toilet.. it doesn't block the sewer gases.

The P trap under the sink does the same.
 Quoting: Waterbug



I have never heard that before....thanks hf
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Information about methane: I once got a noseful of it
and it really is odorless - from a clean but unused toilet I was trying to unplug.

It felt like inhaling a plastic sheet. All of a sudden my
lungs had no traction, no air, could barely breathe.

I ran out of there so fast I have no memory of it.
At the hospital 15 minutes later my heart rate was over 182.

It stayed up for a while, but I was fine a few hours later.
The staff had never heard of methane from unused toilets, but apparently it does collect in the pipes sometimes.

The treatment was supportive - they had to figure out just what it was, and by then my body was handling it.
 Quoting: beeches


Bad scene.
I'm sure you know this.. but for those who don't..

The modern toilet is designed to block sewer gases by trapping water in the turn built into the toilet. If there is no water in the toilet.. it doesn't block the sewer gases.

The P trap under the sink does the same.
 Quoting: Waterbug



I have never heard that before....thanks hf
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This is plumbing 101...are you a homeowner?
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They applied for permits to dispose of radioactive and other waste in cavern below giant sinkhole… and the material is leaking out (AUDIO)


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They applied for permits to dispose of radioactive and other waste claiming it was safe, now everything is up in the air and the material is leaking into the environment
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ahhh
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Send Arnie a email and ask him to tell us what is really going on with the sinkhole, as now it just became his field of expertise hiding
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new oil sheen in the vicinity of the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster
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Last Edited by Digital mix guy Spock on 10/03/2012 01:20 PM
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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Every few days sinkhole gets bigger and gas bubbles spread out” — “My big fear is significant groundwater and aquifer contamination” for that area of Louisiana (AUDIO)

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I wonder if this is connected....






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if you are following developments with this then you MUST read this thread:
Thread: ***TRIPLE THREAT***Jack Reeds Theory--Sink Hole, New Madrid, St. Lawrence Seaway
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map of bubble sites, by Home Landhidingmany
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They applied for permits to dispose of radioactive and other waste claiming it was safe, now everything is up in the air and the material is leaking into the environment
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ahhh
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that's true. but the reason that cavern turned into such
the mess it is today is because high pressure natural gas
is seeping up from a deposit deep down in the crust (it
screwed up the cavern) and now it's saturating the ground and the air in all of Assumption Parish.
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They applied for permits to dispose of radioactive and other waste claiming it was safe, now everything is up in the air and the material is leaking into the environment
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ahhh
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that's true. but the reason that cavern turned into such
the mess it is today is because high pressure natural gas
is seeping up from a deposit deep down in the crust (it
screwed up the cavern) and now it's saturating the ground and the air in all of Assumption Parish.
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and, some of the more imaginative-types here at GLP think
it might grow to saturate the ground and the air in the
whole state of Louisiana.
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I've been following both the 100+ page thread and this one. For those who don't, or haven't seen it, RadChick put together an amazing show covering this problem. It's an hour long, but very much worth the time to listen. If this is a double post in this thread, my apologies- if not, take some time to listen please.




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Part 2 is airing today.
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They applied for permits to dispose of radioactive and other waste claiming it was safe, now everything is up in the air and the material is leaking into the environment
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ahhh
 Quoting: Goofy for God


that's true. but the reason that cavern turned into such
the mess it is today is because high pressure natural gas
is seeping up from a deposit deep down in the crust (it
screwed up the cavern) and now it's saturating the ground and the air in all of Assumption Parish.
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bump
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It's Henry Ford's fault.. assembly line production, cheap cars for the masses. the american dream..
In a market economy, consumerism trumps reason.
Materialism is a narcissistic lifestyle promoted and marketed by the majors.. and welcomed by the consumer.

The major corporation covey involved in this fossil fuel energy enterprise in La Louisiane have scattered like quail.
This isn't like the BP well.. there is no accountability here.
Blame one.. blame them all.

Or, we could blame ourselves.
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It's Henry Ford's fault.. assembly line production, cheap cars for the masses. the american dream..
In a market economy, consumerism trumps reason.
Materialism is a narcissistic lifestyle promoted and marketed by the majors.. and welcomed by the consumer.

The major corporation covey involved in this fossil fuel energy enterprise in La Louisiane have scattered like quail.
This isn't like the BP well.. there is no accountability here.
Blame one.. blame them all.

Or, we could blame ourselves.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Mother Nature's revenge. She put all of the hydrocarbons
deep underground because it was all the worst of
the garbage on the planet -- and then we come along and dig it
all up and start swimming in it. is it any wonder?
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It's Henry Ford's fault.. assembly line production, cheap cars for the masses. the american dream..
In a market economy, consumerism trumps reason.
Materialism is a narcissistic lifestyle promoted and marketed by the majors.. and welcomed by the consumer.

The major corporation covey involved in this fossil fuel energy enterprise in La Louisiane have scattered like quail.
This isn't like the BP well.. there is no accountability here.
Blame one.. blame them all.

Or, we could blame ourselves.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Mother Nature's revenge. She put all of the hydrocarbons
deep underground because it was all the worst of
the garbage on the planet -- and then we come along and dig it
all up and start swimming in it. is it any wonder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24857213


No wonder at all.
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It's Henry Ford's fault.. assembly line production, cheap cars for the masses. the american dream..
In a market economy, consumerism trumps reason.
Materialism is a narcissistic lifestyle promoted and marketed by the majors.. and welcomed by the consumer.

The major corporation covey involved in this fossil fuel energy enterprise in La Louisiane have scattered like quail.
This isn't like the BP well.. there is no accountability here.
Blame one.. blame them all.

Or, we could blame ourselves.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Mother Nature's revenge. She put all of the hydrocarbons
deep underground because it was all the worst of
the garbage on the planet -- and then we come along and dig it
all up and start swimming in it. is it any wonder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24857213


bump
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Watch: New area nearby giant sinkhole saturated with water (VIDEO)

Published: October 4th, 2012 at 4:13 pm ET
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Boat seen floating outside boundary of giant sinkhole (VID

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mysterious loud earthquakes flooding in to Louisiana towns — “Of course the sinkhole comes to mind” — Dozens of miles away — So rare, no seismic monitors in area

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A little before 2 p.m. Wednesday, reports began flooding in to officials of tremors accompanied by a loud noise. The Lafourche Parish Sheriff’s Office and Office of Emergency Preparedness received reports, but nobody has been able to narrow down a cause.
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hi, early morningbump

Still thinking and praying for the safety of your grandson.

Beeches
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There, logged in.

It simply does not end for Louisiana.
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I still don't get it, why is this so bad, because its geting bigger?

I have just been to read about sink holes to try and grasp the doom, but they seem to be a pretty normal thing no? Help me out a bit here.
 Quoting: Ladydoom


GLP doomtards blowing things out of proportion. Remember the worlds gonna end hysterics over...oil spill, dead birds, Arkansas earthquakes,...
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hi, early morningbump

Still thinking and praying for the safety of your grandson.

Beeches
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thankshf
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