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Very interesting! please continue OP
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for centuries the catholic church tried to keep people from reading the bible for themselves, now this pagan organisation wants to corrupt and misslead people into the newage religion, be careful, only rad the king james bible
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The KJV has serious deficiencies. The Gothic / Anglo Saxon bibles are closer to the source, especially the Gothic bible.

Only problem is that there is no good translation for it, so you have to learn Gothic.

I have studied this bible in the original Gothic language and there is so much that is different there. For one, the Hebrews "transmigrated" into Babylon willingly, they were not brought there as slaves. This information has been expunged from modern bibles without exception, as it destroys one of the cornerstones of the victim / redemption message that is the mainstay of the more modern versions.

I did all this in search of light and I'm not even a Christian. You lazy assed pukes who think you are Christians, and have only read the versions of the bible in your own native languages are just allowing the Catholic and Protestant sects that edited the bible to control your mind and faith.

Grow up. Religious beliefs have to be constantly moderated and changed to reflect the reliable research that is coming out regarding ancient texts.

The Dead Sea Scrolls should have been enough to fucking slap the shit out of you and wake you up, but you are all too lazy and more worried about using the Bible to push your political agendas.

Idiots, all of you. Jesus would be ashamed at pretty much all of the various Christian denominations that exist today.
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This is Guido-theology.

Next you will see the Jersey Shore crowd endorsing it :D
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Since your such a hardcore christian I suggest a different thread...
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This is Guido-theology.

Next you will see the Jersey Shore crowd endorsing it :D
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Since your such a hardcore christian I suggest a different thread...
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This guy is not a Christian, he's just deluded. If he was a Christian he'd be interested in both the Hebrew religious history and the period during which the Christians became a separate religion. He's more interested in defending his gold and silver filled sculpture hall and their political and social rules.
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What does he say about spirituality? Afterlife?
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1.- The Origin of Man

Mauro Biglino has found that in the original Hebrew text of the Bible, in the Book of Genesis, it is written that a group of individuals - called the Elohim – made man with a genetic engineering intervention, by mixing their own DNA with the DNA of primates already present on the Earth.

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So who created the, "primates already present on the Earth"?
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Probably not flesh & blood aliens like the Sumerians & whoever else interfered for whatever reasons over our time, but life-forms with substance of energy, or even fully spiritual beings. I'm going for the supreme conscious energy idea.. where God-head split in two & has been splitting ever since into unlimited conscious souls which has also inadvertently created energy with information slowed down to create what we call material energy & biological containers which we interact with, forgetting the wider picture that there is no 'us' & God, but we are part & parcel of God. We're like individual cells who only know the local cells exist.. so bleed energy from around us.. instead of from the original source.. which is male, female & in-between.. the Omnipotent.. similar to Krishna God-head.. but just without the 'girly' accessories & Hawaiian flower round his neck.. tho' fair enough if he's into playing a flute. We are all God-head, but some negative cells of us-God are sick making the 'whole' sick! We need to cure ourselves & God & those miserable Sumerians who think they can just abduct innocent folks at 3.33am.. raise the vibrational level so we can receive the light.

.. or am I scribbling bollox again.. ? just fancy a cuppa & roll my last spliff for bed... & by the way.. God doesen't do religion.. he's not that.. petty-minded & horrible.. it's his 'lost' parts of himself-us that brought 'religion!' Religion is like a big WALL which needs knocking down. I am rather curious tho'.. what aliens will have to say about religion. They're probably best saying nowt.. sort of mumbling n looking down when asked.. sorta thing.. 'sigh.. I 'knewww.. they'd ask us about religion.'
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for centuries the catholic church tried to keep people from reading the bible for themselves, now this pagan organisation wants to corrupt and misslead people into the newage religion, be careful, only rad the king james bible
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The KJV has serious deficiencies. The Gothic / Anglo Saxon bibles are closer to the source, especially the Gothic bible.

Only problem is that there is no good translation for it, so you have to learn Gothic.

I have studied this bible in the original Gothic language and there is so much that is different there. For one, the Hebrews "transmigrated" into Babylon willingly, they were not brought there as slaves. This information has been expunged from modern bibles without exception, as it destroys one of the cornerstones of the victim / redemption message that is the mainstay of the more modern versions.

I did all this in search of light and I'm not even a Christian. You lazy assed pukes who think you are Christians, and have only read the versions of the bible in your own native languages are just allowing the Catholic and Protestant sects that edited the bible to control your mind and faith.

Grow up. Religious beliefs have to be constantly moderated and changed to reflect the reliable research that is coming out regarding ancient texts.

The Dead Sea Scrolls should have been enough to fucking slap the shit out of you and wake you up, but you are all too lazy and more worried about using the Bible to push your political agendas.

Idiots, all of you. Jesus would be ashamed at pretty much all of the various Christian denominations that exist today.
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^^^^
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Some amazing and mind blowing stuff! Interesting that the original Bible is so similar to the Sumerian text too which Sitchin is known for translating!
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Sitchin's translations are questionable

However, biglino's work is superb
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This is a test of sacred noledge don't lose faith even if most of that faith is transmited to ourselves,the higher power is what works with us. You can veaw faith in your own point of veaw and still see good changes in your life.
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This guy is NOT a "vatican insider" !
The vatican did not even publish his translations.

Fact is, the Vatican and Judaism both had sound
copies and translations of the Torah for untold
centuries BEFORE the Masoretic text (600-900AD)
and the Leningrad Codex (1008AD) ever existed.
The Masoretic Text itself is NOT THE BIBLE.

See Here:

Masoretic Text vs. Original Hebrew


[link to theorthodoxlife.wordpress.com]

Whether you are Judaic or Christian, you must understand
that the Masorites manipulated the Hebrew Scriptures to
their own ends !

Pfff... MAN !!!!!!!
When are these flakes going to give it a rest ?????????????????????????????????????????????
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Ahhh, finally someone who is on the ball.
We will pass through the Seven Years or serve God's Will as martyrs.
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god of love bless you
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for centuries the catholic church tried to keep people from reading the bible for themselves, now this pagan organisation wants to corrupt and misslead people into the newage religion, be careful, only rad the king james bible
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This guy is NOT a "vatican insider" !
The vatican did not even publish his translations.

Fact is, the Vatican and Judaism both had sound
copies and translations of the Torah for untold
centuries BEFORE the Masoretic text (600-900AD)
and the Leningrad Codex (1008AD) ever existed.
The Masoretic Text itself is NOT THE BIBLE.

See Here:

Masoretic Text vs. Original Hebrew


[link to theorthodoxlife.wordpress.com]

Whether you are Judaic or Christian, you must understand
that the Masorites manipulated the Hebrew Scriptures to
their own ends !

Pfff... MAN !!!!!!!
When are these flakes going to give it a rest ??????????????????????????
 Quoting: RDprofessor


Ahhh, finally someone who is on the ball.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Masoretic Text is the original Hebrew having been preserved among the Hebrews until included in the Geneva 1560 & KJV 1611 Protestant Bibles.

KJV OT origins
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

ms history
[link to www.biblebelievers.com]
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Also keep in mind this claim that the Vatican has older copies of OT books than the Masoretic thus they are more reliable does not stand up in textual criticism. Older does not equal more reliable or better translation.

There can be 1000 copies of the original even scattered to many different countries who then make more copies, while the corrupted version lay unused to be discovered. It is older although unused due to corruption.
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ive read this material before and i will tell you this,it is blaphamous.yahuwah is the only god,saying that he and the jewish people are not important is as far from the truth as it gets.try saying that shit about allah(was he a more important elohim lol) and they will behead you.why is it okay to speak this way about god,whilst if you say anything about allah its a crime.?
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Whether this guy knows the truth is anyone's guess.

Fact is we all know the Vatican (hell most religious centers regardless of which flavor) are corrupt and all about power thru fear.

What better way to control people than to convince them if they don't worship this or that fictional being that they will be struck down and be sent to eternal hell. Don't be naive people.

The fact we made such a jump in advancement (ape to human) is in itself enough to make you wonder if there was not some type of intervention. Some asked who put the apes here before that intervention. Who is to say those apes also weren't put here by some other beings and that they (the Elohim) weren't just trying to expand on that work???

Ok, then where did those other beings come from? I don't know but just like here on earth someone else manipulated their DNA to create them... Some would say well at some point some God would have had to be the one to create the original flesh and bone being, right? Well maybe not, could it not have been the right circumstance of elements and environment that spawned life and where the introduction of new elements and conditions caused mutation into a being that ultimately advanced to go on to create life elsewhere?

Remember, just like all ideals which people have Dems vs Reps, Christianity vs Islam, Israel vs Iran and numerous other examples. These things are created and manipulated to control the people and whom they serve.

Don't be a sheep, don't be naive. It is about as silly as believing the world is flat or that we are the center of all things given that we do know there are billions if not trillions other other galaxies and an unknown number of systems in them that all have the ability to support life whether by our definition or another.

Don't be naive... Don't believe in something that was written and twisted to control you the people so someone could have power over you.

Lastly, if you do believe in one of these fictional all powerful beings. Ask them to show themselves and perform a miracle for us all to see today, not something that supposedly happened 4000 years ago written in a book that just as easily could have been a fairytale in someones mind to wow us into believing if we are worthy this fictional tale will come true for us to.

Don't be naive!

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And what makes this most interesting is that this guy worked for the Vatican, translating the original Bible texts, and THIS is what he found out about them! Says some about how perverted and deceitful the public Bible is, completely distorted from its true story.
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bump I have always know that. How much time did I told you that the bible is just a story book. ET's created Us.
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Very interesting OP
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No this is really old tired stuff. This heresy has been around long before this italian jesuit douche bag even was born.

It's been soundly refuted and crushed.
But then these Vatican clowns are always many years behind.

For example his understanding of the word Elohim is pathetic to say they least.
[link to www.gci.org]

It is the word for the Trinity in hebrew, that is it is Three in One.
This italian is such a dago.

And by crushing this first idiocy he spout his entire tower of babel collapsed.
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Yeah, linking to a Christian site will of course explain everything - considering it is THEIR religion that is torn apart by this information.

LOL assclown.
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Biased nincompoop. Rather than examine the evidence presented there or consider the argument, you just brush it off BECAUSE it's a Christian site, as if Christians can't do valid research... yet this ALLEGED "Vatican Insider" (no doubt somebody's "uncle") is technically a CHRISTIAN.

Idiot.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Thanks for bringing this
Ponder, DNA :o)

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You see, it wasn't God that created mankind. It was aliens as we call them. But what the aliens created in the first places were merely walking shells, and the Cosmic Engineer "installed" souls into these shells, thus making them real living beings - us.

Call the Engineer god if you like...after all, the ultimate collective intelligence that IS the living universe ITSELF. It is everything. Air, water, fire, trees, animals, planets, suns, you. It is the basic energy - the building block that forms everything, and we are all part of the it in the same manner as cells to a living body.

Hard to grasp this concept? Come on now, it's not that difficult if you consider this in the manner of a droplet realizing the existence of an ocean it is contained within. And do you have to worship the Engineer? No, because you are one of the countless ways the Engineer manifests itself. Does a droplet worship the ocean? No, it does not. Because a droplet is only a form of an ocean.

I've seen the Engineer.

It showed itself to me in the form of the Eye of Providence, in the sky. If you looked for the medieval woodworks of the Eye, you would find it.

It talked to me. It said that the time of darkness is DONE, that WE WILL RECEIVE LIGHT, and this light will never be taken away from us.

It doesn't even matter if you believe this or not. Cling on to your Yahweh if you like.

I sit, wait, and witness what's about to come.
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No this is really old tired stuff. This heresy has been around long before this italian jesuit douche bag even was born.

It's been soundly refuted and crushed.
But then these Vatican clowns are always many years behind.

For example his understanding of the word Elohim is pathetic to say they least.
[link to www.gci.org]

It is the word for the Trinity in hebrew, that is it is Three in One.
This italian is such a dago.

And by crushing this first idiocy he spout his entire tower of babel collapsed.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Yeah, linking to a Christian site will of course explain everything - considering it is THEIR religion that is torn apart by this information.

LOL assclown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24515879


Biased nincompoop. Rather than examine the evidence presented there or consider the argument, you just brush it off eBECAUSE it's a Christian site, as if Christians can't do valid research... yet this ALLEGED "Vatican Insider" (no doubt somebody's "uncle") is technically a CHRISTIAN.

Idiot.
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GLP is not a christian site but a conspiracy one. So get over your bible.
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1.- The Origin of Man

Mauro Biglino has found that in the original Hebrew text of the Bible, in the Book of Genesis, it is written that a group of individuals - called the Elohim – made man with a genetic engineering intervention, by mixing their own DNA with the DNA of primates already present on the Earth.

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So who created the, "primates already present on the Earth"?
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jebuz...
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Thanks for the thread OP. Interesting. I would however suggest that in some way the original account of creation is accurate, although perhaps not on this planet, through the process of guided evolution.

It depicts the evolving species reaching a point of self awareness, leaving the natural environment behind and the individualization of an indwelling spirit versus something more akin to a group soul.

So it quite artfully, when view from a certain perspective, not to say that there aren't others equally as true, depicts the involution of spirits descent into matter, with an eventually return. There would appear to be many levels of understanding all of which hold some truth and perhaps that is the cause of much of the argueing we find in regards this subject, each once again thinking that they are in sole possesion of the only valid view point. sk
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GLP is not a christian site but a conspiracy one. So get over your bible.
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Idiot! I'm referring to the site someone linked to above that REFUTES the OP claim, NOT to GLP!

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I've seen the Engineer.

It showed itself to me in the form of the Eye of Providence, in the sky. If you looked for the medieval woodworks of the Eye, you would find it.

It talked to me.

I sit, wait, and witness what's about to come.
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Taiwan, can you tell us more about your experience?
How did it happen?
What´s about to come?

Thanks
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Some amazing and mind blowing stuff! Interesting that the original Bible is so similar to the Sumerian text too which Sitchin is known for translating!
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No this is really old tired stuff. This heresy has been around long before this italian jesuit douche bag even was born.

It's been soundly refuted and crushed.
But then these Vatican clowns are always many years behind.

For example his understanding of the word Elohim is pathetic to say they least.
[link to www.gci.org]

It is the word for the Trinity in hebrew, that is it is Three in One.
This italian is such a dago.

And by crushing this first idiocy he spout his entire tower of babel collapsed.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


lol there is no word for trinity in hebrew, and yes Elohim is plural as anyone with a small understanding of Hebrew knows.
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for centuries the catholic church tried to keep people from reading the bible for themselves, now this pagan organisation wants to corrupt and misslead people into the newage religion, be careful, only rad the king james bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22775281


The KJV has serious deficiencies. The Gothic / Anglo Saxon bibles are closer to the source, especially the Gothic bible.

Only problem is that there is no good translation for it, so you have to learn Gothic.

I have studied this bible in the original Gothic language and there is so much that is different there. For one, the Hebrews "transmigrated" into Babylon willingly, they were not brought there as slaves. This information has been expunged from modern bibles without exception, as it destroys one of the cornerstones of the victim / redemption message that is the mainstay of the more modern versions.

I did all this in search of light and I'm not even a Christian. You lazy assed pukes who think you are Christians, and have only read the versions of the bible in your own native languages are just allowing the Catholic and Protestant sects that edited the bible to control your mind and faith.

Grow up. Religious beliefs have to be constantly moderated and changed to reflect the reliable research that is coming out regarding ancient texts.

The Dead Sea Scrolls should have been enough to fucking slap the shit out of you and wake you up, but you are all too lazy and more worried about using the Bible to push your political agendas.

Idiots, all of you. Jesus would be ashamed at pretty much all of the various Christian denominations that exist today.
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No, he would be ashamed that you would call his precious children idiots, actually.
You could be nice, lose the attitude, and share your insights with curious people instead of letting your pride and arrogance make you look foolish. There are a good many Christ-followers out there that have only read the english Bible. Because we only speak english. I am not able to learn another language personally. I look for others that have tried to get more accurate translations to learn from what they find. You dont need to be so condemning in your accusations.
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ive read this material before and i will tell you this,it is blaphamous.yahuwah is the only god,saying that he and the jewish people are not important is as far from the truth as it gets.try saying that shit about allah(was he a more important elohim lol) and they will behead you.why is it okay to speak this way about god,whilst if you say anything about allah its a crime.?
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He admits openly that there are other gods in Genesis and other places.

Anyway he's not the creator of the universe anyway, the Babel Bible's god is the Semitic hilltop deity known also as ISH-KUR. He was promoted by the Semites who later became known as Jews into the position of supreme godhood. You will see the truth of this if you read the Elephantine Papyri.
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for centuries the catholic church tried to keep people from reading the bible for themselves, now this pagan organisation wants to corrupt and misslead people into the newage religion, be careful, only rad the king james bible
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22775281


The KJV has serious deficiencies. The Gothic / Anglo Saxon bibles are closer to the source, especially the Gothic bible.

Only problem is that there is no good translation for it, so you have to learn Gothic.

I have studied this bible in the original Gothic language and there is so much that is different there. For one, the Hebrews "transmigrated" into Babylon willingly, they were not brought there as slaves. This information has been expunged from modern bibles without exception, as it destroys one of the cornerstones of the victim / redemption message that is the mainstay of the more modern versions.

I did all this in search of light and I'm not even a Christian. You lazy assed pukes who think you are Christians, and have only read the versions of the bible in your own native languages are just allowing the Catholic and Protestant sects that edited the bible to control your mind and faith.

Grow up. Religious beliefs have to be constantly moderated and changed to reflect the reliable research that is coming out regarding ancient texts.

The Dead Sea Scrolls should have been enough to fucking slap the shit out of you and wake you up, but you are all too lazy and more worried about using the Bible to push your political agendas.

Idiots, all of you. Jesus would be ashamed at pretty much all of the various Christian denominations that exist today.
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No, he would be ashamed that you would call his precious children idiots, actually.
You could be nice, lose the attitude, and share your insights with curious people instead of letting your pride and arrogance make you look foolish. There are a good many Christ-followers out there that have only read the english Bible. Because we only speak english. I am not able to learn another language personally. I look for others that have tried to get more accurate translations to learn from what they find. You dont need to be so condemning in your accusations.
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No, he wouldn't be ashamed at me calling you idiots. You're not any more precious than any other slob anyway, especially since you can't be assed to even figure out what it is you believe by picking up the DSS or the Elephantine Papyri in *translation*!

It's not enough to just have faith that the English language Bible is good enough. It clearly isn't, as we are finding out more and more as time goes on. It's filled with lies, deceits, half-truths, deliberate mistranslations, and even utter falsifications. You can't just "look to others" to do your spiritual and religious work for you. If you do, you'll never be able to even know what you believe!

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