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Traveling alone makes me suspicious? Harrassed at US/Canada Border

 
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09/27/2012 09:36 PM
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Traveling alone makes me suspicious? Harrassed at US/Canada Border
I am still so pissed off at what happened to me at the US/Canada border this morning I need a place to vent.

I live in Oregon and wanted to take a short trip somewhere by myself to get away for a bit and decided on British Columbia since it is driving distance and I had not been for many years. Going into Canada on Sunday, the border/customs took about 30 seconds to a minute, just as I had thought it would, typical questions like are you traveling alone, how long are you staying, do you have drugs, firearms, etc.

Coming back to the U.S. this morning south of Vancouver (I-5 in the US) I was thinking in my head, given the police state we are in, I bet it is MORE difficult to enter even though I am a US CITIZEN WITH A US PASSPORT (32 years old) and nothing on my criminal record. Here are the questions I was asked (approximate order) I'll leave out the responses:

How long long were you in Canada?
What was the purpose of the visit?
You are alone?
Why did you travel alone?
Where do you live?
Why does your car have Washington plates if you live in Oregon?
Why did you rent a car?
Do you own a car?
Why didn't you drive your own car to Canada?
Do you typically rent cars for long trips?
What is your occupation in Oregon?
How long have you been doing that for?
Did you buy anything in Canada?
Nothing like postcards or souveniers?
Why didn't you buy anything?
Have you traveled outside of the country before?
I see you have visited Mexico and Europe in the last few years. What was the purpose of these trips?
Did you travel alone?
Where did you go in Mexico?
What was the most recent trip to Mexico?
Was that alone or with someone else?
Your passport says you were born in California. When did you move to Oregon?
Why did you move to Oregon?
When was your last visit to Canada?
Why did you decide on Canada for a trip?
(Meanwhile I can tell someone is communicating with her in her ear piece)

This took more than 5 minutes. How are most of these questions relevant to get back into MY COUNTRY? Meanwhile, all the cars (about 80% with British Columbia license plates) are let through easily (30 seconds max) but a U.S. citizen is harrassed for travelling alone!!!! Citizens are guilty until proven innocent, just like at the airports!

Just trying to get back into MY COUNTRY from Canada (not like it was North Korea or something). Amazing.
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10/10/2012 02:29 AM
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10/10/2012 02:39 AM
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Canadian border guards are dicks to their fellow Canadians as well. The worst border guards are the ones that get transfered from the texas-mexico border to Portal North Dakota and don't understand rural small town people aren't smuggling drugs, fruits, vegetables, currency, guns, or other people. They are just going down to shop and buy cheaper stuff.
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10/10/2012 02:45 AM
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>>I was thinking in my head, given the police state we are in, I bet it is MORE difficult to enter<<

thoughts create reality.
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10/10/2012 02:54 AM
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Michigan/Canadian border...

Ok, So Michigan doesn't require, nor recognizes a front license plate on a motor vehicle. I still have my California front plate on my car and a Michigan plate on the rear... perfectly legal to do in Michigan, ... but crossing the border into Canada invokes a shitstorm and crossing back into the US is just as bad.

In general, crossing the border is so fucked up now, I avoid it.
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10/10/2012 03:22 AM
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They have a quota of non-suspicious people to harass each day, so they can hassle the middle easterners with bombs.

The same thing happens at airports. That way when Ali Muhammad Ikeelu sues them for profiling they can show the twenty to one ratio of white people hassled.

You were just helping out your country. God bless you.

OK, so that sounds racist, but it's at least part of why the policy is in place. Plus the majority of people traveling out of the country go in groups.

That's all there is to it.
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10/10/2012 03:41 AM
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I am still so pissed off at what happened to me at the US/Canada border this morning I need a place to vent.

I live in Oregon and wanted to take a short trip somewhere by myself to get away for a bit and decided on British Columbia since it is driving distance and I had not been for many years. Going into Canada on Sunday, the border/customs took about 30 seconds to a minute, just as I had thought it would, typical questions like are you traveling alone, how long are you staying, do you have drugs, firearms, etc.

Coming back to the U.S. this morning south of Vancouver (I-5 in the US) I was thinking in my head, given the police state we are in, I bet it is MORE difficult to enter even though I am a US CITIZEN WITH A US PASSPORT (32 years old) and nothing on my criminal record. Here are the questions I was asked (approximate order) I'll leave out the responses:

How long long were you in Canada?
What was the purpose of the visit?
You are alone?
Why did you travel alone?
Where do you live?
Why does your car have Washington plates if you live in Oregon?
Why did you rent a car?
Do you own a car?
Why didn't you drive your own car to Canada?
Do you typically rent cars for long trips?
What is your occupation in Oregon?
How long have you been doing that for?
Did you buy anything in Canada?
Nothing like postcards or souveniers?
Why didn't you buy anything?
Have you traveled outside of the country before?
I see you have visited Mexico and Europe in the last few years. What was the purpose of these trips?
Did you travel alone?
Where did you go in Mexico?
What was the most recent trip to Mexico?
Was that alone or with someone else?
Your passport says you were born in California. When did you move to Oregon?
Why did you move to Oregon?
When was your last visit to Canada?
Why did you decide on Canada for a trip?
(Meanwhile I can tell someone is communicating with her in her ear piece)

This took more than 5 minutes. How are most of these questions relevant to get back into MY COUNTRY? Meanwhile, all the cars (about 80% with British Columbia license plates) are let through easily (30 seconds max) but a U.S. citizen is harrassed for travelling alone!!!! Citizens are guilty until proven innocent, just like at the airports!

Just trying to get back into MY COUNTRY from Canada (not like it was North Korea or something). Amazing.
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Kinda makes you nostalgic for the Nazi days of "Do you haff yo' pay-puhs, bitte?"
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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10/10/2012 03:41 AM
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I am still so pissed off at what happened to me at the US/Canada border this morning I need a place to vent.

I live in Oregon and wanted to take a short trip somewhere by myself to get away for a bit and decided on British Columbia since it is driving distance and I had not been for many years. Going into Canada on Sunday, the border/customs took about 30 seconds to a minute, just as I had thought it would, typical questions like are you traveling alone, how long are you staying, do you have drugs, firearms, etc.

Coming back to the U.S. this morning south of Vancouver (I-5 in the US) I was thinking in my head, given the police state we are in, I bet it is MORE difficult to enter even though I am a US CITIZEN WITH A US PASSPORT (32 years old) and nothing on my criminal record. Here are the questions I was asked (approximate order) I'll leave out the responses:

How long long were you in Canada?
What was the purpose of the visit?
You are alone?
Why did you travel alone?
Where do you live?
Why does your car have Washington plates if you live in Oregon?
Why did you rent a car?
Do you own a car?
Why didn't you drive your own car to Canada?
Do you typically rent cars for long trips?
What is your occupation in Oregon?
How long have you been doing that for?
Did you buy anything in Canada?
Nothing like postcards or souveniers?
Why didn't you buy anything?
Have you traveled outside of the country before?
I see you have visited Mexico and Europe in the last few years. What was the purpose of these trips?
Did you travel alone?
Where did you go in Mexico?
What was the most recent trip to Mexico?
Was that alone or with someone else?
Your passport says you were born in California. When did you move to Oregon?
Why did you move to Oregon?
When was your last visit to Canada?
Why did you decide on Canada for a trip?
(Meanwhile I can tell someone is communicating with her in her ear piece)

This took more than 5 minutes. How are most of these questions relevant to get back into MY COUNTRY? Meanwhile, all the cars (about 80% with British Columbia license plates) are let through easily (30 seconds max) but a U.S. citizen is harrassed for travelling alone!!!! Citizens are guilty until proven innocent, just like at the airports!

Just trying to get back into MY COUNTRY from Canada (not like it was North Korea or something). Amazing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14816749


Imagine answering "Go f*ck yourself" to every one of the questions lol
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
Anonymous Coward
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10/10/2012 12:33 PM
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You mean you managed to answer all questions without going to the secondary inspection? Lucky. I git screwed up on about the first 10 questions, then he just told me to go to secondary (my "status" was in question). He complained my car left a large pool of transmission fluid outside his booth. LOL
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10/10/2012 12:37 PM
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Re: Traveling alone makes me suspicious? Harrassed at US/Canada Border
they thought you were a mule, obviously
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10/10/2012 12:59 PM
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they thought you were a mule, obviously
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No, it's routine. But any unusualness will initiate a barrage of new questions, such as OPs license plates. The most difficult for me is "Why?" Fuck!, I dont know! Just because. Still cant prepare for that one..
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10/10/2012 01:06 PM
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The funny thing is they no doubt had access to the answers to anything they asked you and more.
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10/10/2012 01:17 PM
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They have a quota of non-suspicious people to harass each day, so they can hassle the middle easterners with bombs.

The same thing happens at airports. That way when Ali Muhammad Ikeelu sues them for profiling they can show the twenty to one ratio of white people hassled.

You were just helping out your country. God bless you.

OK, so that sounds racist, but it's at least part of why the policy is in place. Plus the majority of people traveling out of the country go in groups.

That's all there is to it.
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And Bingo was his name-0.
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10/10/2012 01:25 PM
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Canadian border guards think they're all special service Jason Borne and karate experts ready to save the world, harrasing hippies for a joint while terrorists drive through the border. They were all checking on my criminal record from when I was a teenager, asking me details about some party that the cops busted like I was a menace to society 10 years later and lying to them for not telling them about it. Then they're all like, "where's your Facebook?" - why the fuck are they checking my Facebook? I told them I didn't have one and that really freaked them out. They eventually told me I could volunteer to not come into Canada and that if I didn't they would make my life a living hell, which I took as them wanting to stick their fingers up my ass. The "woman" guard was obviously coked up on Aderall or some pharmaceutical, kept twitching and looking like she would reach for her gun in a heartbeat. Fuck Canada because of their border and guards.
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12/07/2012 10:38 PM
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Yeah OP, you got off easy compared to some others.

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