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Great Comet Of 2013 ISON C/2012 S1 & Asteroid DA14 Update

 
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you people do realise that NASA and these rocket scientists haven't got a fooken clue about anything don't you?
they can't predict the weather this winter yet they know about things a million years ago...ffs
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Agreed.

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Don't put too much hope in comets usually they don't bring the doom at all....

seriously how comet's have passed by? And how much of them posed any threat at all?


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I can think of a couple that changed mankind forever.
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You un greatfull twat
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Don't put too much hope in comets usually they don't bring the doom at all....

seriously how comet's have passed by? And how much of them posed any threat at all?


 Quoting: Mr information 1337378


I can think of a couple that changed mankind forever.
 Quoting: Miggy

Such as?



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Don't put too much hope in comets usually they don't bring the doom at all....

seriously how comet's have passed by? And how much of them posed any threat at all?


 Quoting: Mr information 1337378


I can think of a couple that changed mankind forever.
 Quoting: Miggy

Such as?



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Sorry, Germany.

You're not getting ME to open up that can of worms on this thread. chuckle

I'm pretty sure the OP would like the thread to remain on- topic.

Sorry, Charlie.

hf

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Thankyou T.bar. Much appreciated
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CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!!!!!!! This guys voice makes me want to go out and run over little kittens. I much prefer to hear THAT screaming agony from kittens than this guys VOICE! FUCK ME SILLY AND CALL ME SALLY!!

What a TARD!!!!!!!!!!

You guys can LIVE through this guy's voice to get ANY information?!!?!?!?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus.....
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You're an asshole, dude.
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He's a German.

Whaddya 'spect?

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Get Bruce Willis on the phone now!

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Hmm, only a few hours to whip that tail around the Sun.

We should get a fantastic curving tail. I only wonder what it might look like.

Knowing the tail is debris cast away from solar winds, the tail will be awesome cause the Suns proximity will create a massive tail, that means we may see a dramatic effect around the daylight Sun. Curving halo type effect.
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Don't put too much hope in comets usually they don't bring the doom at all....

seriously how comet's have passed by? And how much of them posed any threat at all?
 Quoting: Mr information 1337378

I can think of a couple that changed mankind forever.
 Quoting: Miggy

Such as?
 Quoting: Hydra

Sorry, Germany.

You're not getting ME to open up that can of worms on this thread. chuckle

I'm pretty sure the OP would like the thread to remain on- topic.

Sorry, Charlie.

hf

Miggy
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Oh, you allready opened up that can of worms on this thread and went off topic.

So I assume, your comment was - as usual when it comes to scientific threads - just hot air.

Sorry, Snoopy


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!!!!!!! This guys voice makes me want to go out and run over little kittens. I much prefer to hear THAT screaming agony from kittens than this guys VOICE! FUCK ME SILLY AND CALL ME SALLY!!

What a TARD!!!!!!!!!!

You guys can LIVE through this guy's voice to get ANY information?!!?!?!?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus.....
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You like that broomstick, Sally?
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Hmm, only a few hours to whip that tail around the Sun.

We should get a fantastic curving tail. I only wonder what it might look like.

Knowing the tail is debris cast away from solar winds, the tail will be awesome cause the Suns proximity will create a massive tail, that means we may see a dramatic effect around the daylight Sun. Curving halo type effect.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--

If we are lucky it could be like Comet McNaught in 2007: [link to www.google.de]



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Hmm, only a few hours to whip that tail around the Sun.

We should get a fantastic curving tail. I only wonder what it might look like.

Knowing the tail is debris cast away from solar winds, the tail will be awesome cause the Suns proximity will create a massive tail, that means we may see a dramatic effect around the daylight Sun. Curving halo type effect.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--

If we are lucky it could be like Comet McNaught in 2007: [link to www.google.de]



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Yes, except this time we will see the arcing directly behind the Sun. So we may not see the curvature but we WILL see the comets tail going through the Sun, especially during sunrise and sunset.

Since the tails debris is on the far side of the Sun we will get the best reflection possible. Illuminating the tail very well.

Since the tail will be curved, there is a good chance we will see some sort of prism effect. Space Rainbow behind the Sun.

There is also the possibility the Comet explodes from rapid heating. If that happens, well, we will see a VERY RARE and beautiful show.

Someone said we will not have a meteor shower from this comet but I have to disagree on this note: The curving tail will eject material across our orbital plane. Roughly 6 months later we will be in a small area that cuts across our orbit. Could be a fantastic meteor shower.



This is gonna be sooooo cool.

Reserve your seats at a dark sky site now while there is still vacancy. Cherry Springs PA is a great place to vacation and watch this show unfold.
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Hmm, only a few hours to whip that tail around the Sun.

We should get a fantastic curving tail. I only wonder what it might look like.

Knowing the tail is debris cast away from solar winds, the tail will be awesome cause the Suns proximity will create a massive tail, that means we may see a dramatic effect around the daylight Sun. Curving halo type effect.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--

If we are lucky it could be like Comet McNaught in 2007: [link to www.google.de]

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Yes, that would be what one would expect.

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Someone said we will not have a meteor shower from this comet but I have to disagree on this note: The curving tail will eject material across our orbital plane. Roughly 6 months later we will be in a small area that cuts across our orbit. Could be a fantastic meteor shower.
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 Quoting: --Voltaic--

It was me in another thread - I looked only for the time after perihelion, not before.

You are right: Around Nov. 1, 2013 the comet will cross Earth orbit only slightly (some million km) above the ecliptic.

Depending on the activity at that time it will leave a more ore less dense dust tail behind him. At that time Earth is 1.32 AU (185 million km) from the comet (Doom off).

Earth will enter this tail around Jan. 19, 2014. As said above, depending on the activity of C/2012 S1, a higher count of meteors is possible - if we are lucky it's also possible, that we get a new meteor stream like the Leonids or Perseides.

At that time C/2012 S1 is allready on its way out of the solar system, 0,76 AU (115 million km) behind Earth (Also doom off).



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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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A few changes since the Video. They now have a 'comet nuclear magnitude' of 10.0 listed here [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] If you plug that 10.0 in here [link to www.minorplanetcenter.org] You get a nucleus size of about 20 kilometers. This just happens to be the 'default' comet size for Starry Night Pro. When there isn't a 'known' comet size, Starry Night uses 20 km and an Absolute magnitude of 6. Those numbers give a current Apparent Magnitude of around 17.9, which pretty much agrees with the observations here [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] So, I'm going to say this Comet's size is around 20 km, pretty much a normal size for a Comet.

Sorry Jim... [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]
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Great info T, very interesting. Looking forward to this guy!
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me too



imagine it looking like this beauty back in the 1700s...

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A few changes since the Video. They now have a 'comet nuclear magnitude' of 10.0 listed here [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] If you plug that 10.0 in here [link to www.minorplanetcenter.org] You get a nucleus size of about 20 kilometers. This just happens to be the 'default' comet size for Starry Night Pro. When there isn't a 'known' comet size, Starry Night uses 20 km and an Absolute magnitude of 6. Those numbers give a current Apparent Magnitude of around 17.9, which pretty much agrees with the observations here [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] So, I'm going to say this Comet's size is around 20 km, pretty much a normal size for a Comet.

Sorry Jim... [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]
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Here's the updated video;

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Here's the Orbit as of now. Note the close pass by Mars and the missing "Condition Code" at JPL [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
This should be interesting....



Well, it's a Hyperbolic Comet. Meaning, it's not expected back, hence, no Condition Code. Oh well... [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

1dunno1
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It is Nibiru and is heading straight towards earth.
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Talking of Nibiru, where is it? its like what nearly the middle of October, and it still hasnt made an appearance in the Sky?
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Comet info starts just after 12:30

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Comet info starts just after 12:30
 Quoting: whiteangel

From the McCanney webpage:
"... the mass of this comet which could rival little mars ..."
1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

And again the alignment bullshit.




Nothing more too say.


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Comet info starts just after 12:30
 Quoting: whiteangel

From the McCanney webpage:
"... the mass of this comet which could rival little mars ..."
1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

And again the alignment bullshit.




Nothing more too say.

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 Quoting: Hydra

Listen to McCanney today on the Moore show. Even though McCanney has some 'strange' ideas, they are nothing compared to the Moore faithful. I could almost see the smile on his face as he was answering the questions from the faithful...

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I made a video of the New Asteroids since January 2011. The only anomaly I see is that we haven't caught up to where the observations began. This gives the appearance of a 'thin' spot directly ahead of the Earths Orbit. I don't see an 'abundance' in any certain direction.

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Where's astronut?
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Another Automatic update a couple days ago...
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
A comparison with other Hyperbolic Comets; [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
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An update to Asteroid 2012 DA14. Right now it looks like it will be in the Florida NE sky around 21:00 Feb 16th at magnitude 8. You will need optics.

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T-Bar is BACK !

Must be Astronuts turn at the knothole !

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