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REPENT SINNERS...or ELSE..or else what you might ask?

 
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I don't understand why God send his own son back to earth to die for our sins. Wasn't he the one that created sin? Can't he just undo it? He is God right? And if his son is actually him and can't be killed what the fuck does it matter that he sacrificed himself? It is not really sacrificing your life if you don't actually die right?

I follow many of the teachings from jesus, not because I believe the Bible is real or something but simply cause lots of things he said, those philosophical moral shit, does make sense to me. I think the Jesus story is a good story. But nothing more than that. Guy who rebels against the system gets killed by the system, yeah it works, not very original, well, maybe in that time it was, but anyway a good story nonetheless.

I can even understand the shit like giving yourself over to jesus, like giving yourself over to his teachings, really try to adhere by them etc. Just don't take all that vague stuff too seriously like if you don't say the magic words "I repent jesus" you will be tortured for eternity. That is not how it works, it even says so in the fucking Bible, God judges you, he doesn't read from a checklist to see if you spoke the magic words, he judges you as a person as in you better live a life dedicated to doing good cause we will get judged on our lives (and even that should be interpreted more in a present time way, like you will get judged for your actions but not after you are gone, right here and now, you can call that karma, common sense or god, it is your choice)
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REPENT.


GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH THAT HE HAD HIS SON TORTURED TO DEATH SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES WILL GO TO HEAVEN BUT THOSE WHO DONT WILL BE TORTURED ALIVE IN A BLAZING PIT FOR ETERNITY...THAT IN HIS INFINITE MERCY AND LOVE..HE WILL LET YOU FEELY WALK INTO...CAUSE HE WONT FORCE YOU...BUT HE IS QUITE HAPPY TO HAVE GIVEN YOU NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE...LOVE HIM OR BE TORTURED IN THE MOST HIDEOUS MANNER....THATS HOW MUCH HE LOVES YOU!!!!!

REPENT..HIS LOVE AND MERCY ENDURES FOREVER.....



Then..after you have had the living SHIT scared out of you and you have been TERRORISED into "Loving god" or being sadisticallt TORTURED forever...


Then you also have to do this..ALL the chriatians swear by it because its what they DO...so it MUST be right...

1)First ya have to say a sinners prayer. (You already DID that..you know..in sheer TERROR at what awaits if ya didnt..)

2)Then you have to go to church three times a week(At least)..each time giving ten percent of whats in your wallet to the fat dude up the front who drives luxury cars and lives in a mansion.

3)Then you have to learn to hate everyone else thats NOT a fundie seeing them as doomed and not worth your trouble to love or help or feed..as ALL your time and money gets dedicated to the fat greedy pastor up the front..

4)After a while you have to learn to HATE all other fundies or denominations with a PASSION and see THEM as wrong and DOOMED as well..if they so much as disagree with your denominations view on what day to worship..or what to eat..or the rapture debate..or even if adam had a belly button. (Ive seen churches coime apart over this..seriously)

5)You also must LOOK like the world...dress like the world..act like the world...set your church up to look like a rock concert hall..and fornicate and divorce and sleep around with all the women in the church..all the while condemning others of the world who do this. In short..you have to be as CLOSE as possible to what the world IS..but EXCUSE all your "Sins" with the "Im not perfect..just forgiven CRAP"

After doing all of this..THEN..you just might..according to THEM..be worthy of heaven.


But we all KNOW God cant be like this..even though MOST christians ARE..

let me explain...

If someone repents because they heard that God is going to have them satanically tortured forever and ever in a place HE created JUST for that purpose....IS their conversion out of LOVE or TERROR??

Its like me forcing a woman to LOVE me..cause if she does NOT..I am going to have her skinned alive SLOOOOWLY over a period of years.

Where is the LOVE in that??

But thats what YOU are saying is the so called "FREE CHOICE" God is offering us..LOVE him or be HORRIBLY BURNT ALIVE in NEVER ENDING UNTOLD AGONY..

Yeah..thats LOVE..not..

And saying crap like.."WE CHOOSE to go there is CRAP"...

If faced with loving someone or being skinned alive over a period of months..which one would YOU choose???

And if this person TOLD you the alternative..what would you THINK of them??..not much eh??

The whole TURN or BURN makes GOD out to be A BILLION TIMES MORE EVIL THAN SATAN....

TORTURE IS EVIL..yes or NO??

IF you say YES...you have just called god EVIL...IF you say NO...you are a pshycopathic FREAK..and so is GOD..

SO..the ONLY option which FITS Gods TRUE character..is that there IS NO HELL AS WE HAVE HAD IT TAUGHT...there is NO other option.
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You again?
If you hate God so much why not just stay away from Religion and believers.You not gonna convince me or any other Christian to abandon our faith.Or was that never your purpose.Is this just another atheist circle jerk thread?
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Gee I don't know, what is the point of Christians on here and in real life blabbing about their religion to those of who DON'T CARE. Trust me, we are sick of it.
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Awesome thread OP! Keep it up!
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Exposing the Pagan Roots of Evolution



Atheists are believing the lie of Evolution.

You were created by the One True God of the Holy Bible.

Jesus Christ died on the cross for yours and my sins. Stop worshiping yourself and reach out to him. He is the way, the truth, and the life.

Your lives are like a vapor, you are hurtling towards death.

Stop believing ancient hindu evolution fairytales.

There is one God that holds the universe together. Give Him the Glory. Call out to Christ.
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Exposing the Pagan Roots of Evolution



Atheists are believing the lie of Evolution.

You were created by the One True God of the Holy Bible.

Jesus Christ died on the cross for yours and my sins. Stop worshiping yourself and reach out to him. He is the way, the truth, and the life.

Your lives are like a vapor, you are hurtling towards death.

Stop believing ancient hindu evolution fairytales.

There is one God that holds the universe together. Give Him the Glory. Call out to Christ.
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saw this vid a couple of years ago, i was looking for this but failed to find it.

thanks

hf
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We need people to repent so that no mega doom will come, only mini doom so that will scare the arse entering people and that they may repent.
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Biggest PsyOP ever!
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Through my years of research, I find that the truth is never popular.
From my study I have developed an ear for repetitions and if it's repeated then it is a lie.....as the truth is ...
Satan fell like lightning and deceived the whole world.
Hmmm, I thought if I was going to deceive the whole world I would use "Love", above all over all other methods.
So I also thought where can a get a balance approach on this "Love stuff"?
Love has manipulated the minds and hearts or man.
Love can effect, infect and affect Man's mind and Man's heart therefore it is the ultimate weapon against man.
The thought came to me...go back to the beginning and find when and where love is first mentioned.
I thought ...well God is Love so therefore it will be the among the first words and thoughts of God.
Nope Love is not there...He saw EVERYTHING as being Good and he Loved Nothing.
Depending on the version here is where love is first mention.
Gen_27:4 And make me savoury meat, such as I love, and bring it to me, that I may eat; that my soul may bless thee before I die.

Gen_22:2 And He said, Take now your son, your only one, Isaac, whom you love. And go into the land of Moriah, and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will name to you.

The introduction of Love to the world is based consummation, mastication and devouring of burnt cooked meat and Isaac being a blood Sacrifice would be devoured.

I find that some of the main Roman writings in the NT repeating the mantra that Yahshua came and preached love to me is a picture of His death

It gets very dark here... so I might leave it here. It is a hard subject to talk about cause most if not all minds are programmed to elevate and glorify love.

Cheers

Goodness Justice and Mercy to you
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Through my years of research, I find that the truth is never popular.
From my study I have developed an ear for repetitions and if it's repeated then it is a lie.....as the truth is ...
Satan fell like lightning and deceived the whole world.
Hmmm, I thought if I was going to deceive the whole world I would use "Love", above all over all other methods.
So I also thought where can a get a balance approach on this "Love stuff"?
Love has manipulated the minds and hearts or man.
Love can effect, infect and affect Man's mind and Man's heart therefore it is the ultimate weapon against man.
The thought came to me...go back to the beginning and find when and where love is first mentioned.
I thought ...well God is Love so therefore it will be the among the first words and thoughts of God.
Nope Love is not there...He saw EVERYTHING as being Good and he Loved Nothing.
Depending on the version here is where love is first mention.
Gen_27:4 And make me savoury meat, such as I love, and bring it to me, that I may eat; that my soul may bless thee before I die.

Gen_22:2 And He said, Take now your son, your only one, Isaac, whom you love. And go into the land of Moriah, and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will name to you.

The introduction of Love to the world is based consummation, mastication and devouring of burnt cooked meat and Isaac being a blood Sacrifice would be devoured.

I find that some of the main Roman writings in the NT repeating the mantra that Yahshua came and preached love to me is a picture of His death

It gets very dark here... so I might leave it here. It is a hard subject to talk about cause most if not all minds are programmed to elevate and glorify love.

Cheers

Goodness Justice and Mercy to you
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Are we (meaning you) talking about agápe, or something else?
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I don't want to be tortured, so I feel like I should cover all bases just in case it's true. Ever heard of Pascal's wager? Is it wrong to admit that I was scared into it?
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big lol on that dude!!
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I don't want to be tortured, so I feel like I should cover all bases just in case it's true. Ever heard of Pascal's wager? Is it wrong to admit that I was scared into it?
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Very common. A lot of us started out this way.

cheers
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First of all, most people who claim to be a christian are not christians. A christian is a disciple. A disciple follows their master in obedience. How many of pretenders follow the way, truth, and life? For the bible says god is mocked due to such hypocrites or something like that. Not everyone who says lord lord will go to heaven.


The bible says that he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy. Compassion on whom he will have compassion. He sent his son to die for his ENEMIES, so that they could become FAMILY. The wrath of god has always been upon the traitors who have betrayed their creator. His son was like a peace offering admist a great war. He doesn't want to harm you but save you. That does not mean he will not destroy his enemies. He does what is best for those who choose to love him for love cannot be forced. Most who claim to love god are mere liars. They do not know him nor have they seen him. How can they love god who they have not seen if they cannot even love their neighbors who they have seen? We must fear the wrath of god as his enemies. If your enemy apologized and asked for your forgiveness...would you have pity on them? However, those who love god do not fear him. Only the enemies of god should fear him. For perfect love drives out fear because fear has to do with punishment. ALL HAIL THE MOST HIGH GOD! MAY ALL HIS ENEMIES BOW BEFORE HIM EITHER BY FREE WILL OR BY FORCE! HE ALONE IS GOD!

Yes, there is a second death. We are suppose to promote the fear of god to his enemies mixed with mercy. We are suppose to constantly warn about the wrath of god. It was commanded of us to do so. Repent or perish! For a dog who bites its master may be put to sleep!



You don't have to go to "church." You become the church. For the kingdom is inside them and among them. Not in stone or wood. We worship in spirit and truth. It is a life style. Not three days a week but everyday. Keep the sabbath holy! As for the tithe, you must sacrifice more than that to avoid idolatry. The pastors are suppose to give the money to the apostles chosen by god. A pastor has no true power in the church. They get greedy because there church is not built upon the correct foundation. There is one way, truth, and life; it hates no one. Most of these false churches belong to satan. Many do sunday and I believe the correct sabbath is saturday. They are blind goats lost in the woods.


Yes, the motives in our heart must be love. Some lust after heavenly things and covet the fathers stuff. They seem to have turned a reward into a bribe. Some of us seek his heart and our home is whereever he is. Yet some are all about heaven this and heaven that. If you truly loved your neighbor, would you want to abandon them for heaven? If you truly loved god, would you seek to abandon your duties here on earth?
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You do know that you are blind and your father is the devil? You do not love god, nor do you know him or seen him. You are a child of the devil and gods wrath and curse is upon all sinners.
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You do know that you are blind and your father is the devil? You do not love god, nor do you know him or seen him. You are a child of the devil and gods wrath and curse is upon all sinners.
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Well..YOU are a sinner..so you are doomed as well going by what you said.

We are all sinners.

What makes YOU holier than anyone else and give you the right to look down your nose at everyone threatening them with doom when you are NO worthier to escape doom than I or anyone else?
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This thread again?

Hey OP...you can start a thread like this every 3 days, let it get to 20 pages where Theists embarrass you, you scurry away for 3 days, only to start it all again with the exact same angle.

Definition of insanity? YOU

You have a lot of hate and emotional problems based on this behaviour and talking to you about God or anything else is a bit like talking Particle Physics with Charles Manson.

You don't want to join the party? It's cool, we're all doing just fine without your bag of chips and six pack.

Run along.
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Biggest PsyOP ever!
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ohyeah

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I don't want to be tortured, so I feel like I should cover all bases just in case it's true. Ever heard of Pascal's wager? Is it wrong to admit that I was scared into it?
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Nope...But it's good that you can acknowledge that it was FEAR from your MIND that led you down that path and not INTUITION from your HEART. Try standing outside of the fear and seeing if you are still following the path of wisdom and 'truth' (as you perceive it to be).

hf

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I don't want to be tortured, so I feel like I should cover all bases just in case it's true. Ever heard of Pascal's wager? Is it wrong to admit that I was scared into it?
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No.

In fact its refreshing to see the honesty there.

BUT..if you only bow to god because you are afraid of torture and pain..you did it for selfish self serving reasons..just to save your own butt..NOT because you actually loved God.

If the gospel was preached without the blackmail..you would have turned and walked away and not given a toss..like most christians would have IF not for the blackmail of torture.

So you have fallen for a stanic LIE based on fear..and self.

But thats how satan works..through fear..and LOVE of self.

thats why most christians are loveless heartless arrogant hypocrites..they DONT follow god at all..thay follow themselves.
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for he that loves the smallest of the weeds goes the kingdom.


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BUT..if you only bow to god because you are afraid of torture and pain..you did it for selfish self serving reasons..just to save your own butt..NOT because you actually loved God.

If the gospel was preached without the blackmail..you would have turned and walked away and not given a toss..like most christians would have IF not for the blackmail of torture.

So you have fallen for a stanic LIE based on fear..and self.

But thats how satan works..through fear..and LOVE of self.

thats why most christians are loveless heartless arrogant hypocrites..they DONT follow god at all..thay follow themselves.
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Turning to God will bring you to god regardless of what turned you there. Christ will work out the kinks of the deal in due time. Christ is our mediator, not our executioner.
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This thread again?

Hey OP...you can start a thread like this every 3 days, let it get to 20 pages where Theists embarrass you, you scurry away for 3 days, only to start it all again with the exact same angle.

Definition of insanity? YOU

You have a lot of hate and emotional problems based on this behaviour and talking to you about God or anything else is a bit like talking Particle Physics with Charles Manson.

You don't want to join the party? It's cool, we're all doing just fine without your bag of chips and six pack.

Run along.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Guy, he's just repeating the same exact stuff genuine churchbots teach.
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This thread again?

Hey OP...you can start a thread like this every 3 days, let it get to 20 pages where Theists embarrass you, you scurry away for 3 days, only to start it all again with the exact same angle.

Definition of insanity? YOU

You have a lot of hate and emotional problems based on this behaviour and talking to you about God or anything else is a bit like talking Particle Physics with Charles Manson.

You don't want to join the party? It's cool, we're all doing just fine without your bag of chips and six pack.

Run along.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Guy, he's just repeating the same exact stuff genuine churchbots teach.
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Believe that if it makes you happy, and run along.
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This thread again?

Hey OP...you can start a thread like this every 3 days, let it get to 20 pages where Theists embarrass you, you scurry away for 3 days, only to start it all again with the exact same angle.

Definition of insanity? YOU

You have a lot of hate and emotional problems based on this behaviour and talking to you about God or anything else is a bit like talking Particle Physics with Charles Manson.

You don't want to join the party? It's cool, we're all doing just fine without your bag of chips and six pack.

Run along.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Guy, he's just repeating the same exact stuff genuine churchbots teach.
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YEP.
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for he that loves the smallest of the weeds goes the kingdom.


Until your last breath, free will granted, yet when this breath shall come remains a mystery.


Odd are in favor of the house.

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Oh? Then what of Jesus, when he wanted figs and came upon a fig tree and it had no fruit, and so Jesus cursed it? Forget that it wasn't even in season for the fig to produce fruit...why didn't he bless it so that it would, like he cured so many people? Are plants not worthy?
I'd never do such a thing to tree, a weed or any living thing. I love nature and understand it, respect it. Yet I'm to accept that what Jesus did was okay?
I'd love to have this explained to me. And no "but, you don't understand God's mercy" business. Like any decent person, I know a good act from a bad act.
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This thread again?

Hey OP...you can start a thread like this every 3 days, let it get to 20 pages where Theists embarrass you, you scurry away for 3 days, only to start it all again with the exact same angle.

Definition of insanity? YOU

You have a lot of hate and emotional problems based on this behaviour and talking to you about God or anything else is a bit like talking Particle Physics with Charles Manson.

You don't want to join the party? It's cool, we're all doing just fine without your bag of chips and six pack.

Run along.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Guy, he's just repeating the same exact stuff genuine churchbots teach.
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YEP.
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I'm glad you think you know something about me.
Believe that if it makes you happy, and run along.

"Yep" lmao
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I'm glad you think you know something about me.

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