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BREAKING! Obama Has Ordered US Military in Afgahnistan To Fight With No Air Support!

 
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Yesterday a concerned father forwarded to me a letter from his son in Afghanistan. I confirmed authenticity, and republish with permission:

Dad,

I am fed up. I cannot believe the lack of attention the recent changes in this war is receiving by the media or the country. I think I saw one thing on CNN about the following subject, but I had to dig extensively to find it. The purpose of this letter is to let you know of the garbage that our soldiers are going through right now. With this knowledge, I hope that you take action by writing your congressmen.

First, because of the recent green on blue incidents or "insider threats" as the new buzz phrase dictates, all coalition forces in Afghanistan have completely stopped partnering with the ANA, AUP, and ALP in order to prevent the death of anymore CF casualties by ANSF or Taliban disguised as them. This is also greatly spurred by President Karzi's indifferent attitude and lack of action to take measures to prevent further insider attacks.

Second, because of this massive change in policy (and complete change in mission) all U.S. forces are forbidden to actively patrol their AO and are to remain on their respective COPs/FOBs. There are only a few exceptions to this rule and they all pertain to "hardening" highway 1 in our AO. We have received orders that clearly state that all CF will no longer be allowed to drop air to ground munitions within the country of Afghanistan. This preempts Karzi's announcement that will be made shortly that states the above mentioned order, making it a tactical directive that he is ordering.

To the first point: Our mission in Afghanistan is to partner with the ANSF on all levels. Now the policy makers are telling us that we are not allowed to do that and further more we are to take immediate measures to secure ourselves from the ANSF that are co-located with us. So the question now becomes, what is our mission? Furthermore, the implication is that we have absolutely no reason to still be in this country if we are not partnering with the ANSF. So why are we here?

To the second point: I don't think that the American citizens would be happy if they knew that their soldiers were being prohibited from defending themselves in any way because of politically driven orders, but that is precisely what is happening in this war right now even as I write this letter. The soldiers of the U.S. never engage the enemy unless we know that we have will always have the tactical advantage in defending ourselves, that advantage is the use of close air support and air weapons team. To take those weapons away from us is to level the playing field for the enemy and thus exposing our soldiers to more danger. In the school house they teach us that the minimum ratio that we are to engage the enemy with, is a 3:1 ratio. In other words, we have the highest probability of winning because we don’t fight fair. The sound tactical principles behind this teaching have saved lives. The very presence of aircraft over our foot patrols has also saved lives and now our chain of command is being told by our political leadership that this is now not allowed. If we are not partnering with the ANSF and we are not actively patrolling to prevent our enemies from massing their attacks on our COP and we can’t drop a bomb on the enemy that we have positively identified, than what the hell are we doing here?

Give us a mission or send us home. I honestly have no preference on what the politicians decide, as long as they just make a decision. Of course this will be a terrible inconvenience on the current elections so I am sure we will be forgotten, which really does not seem to be too different for how things have been going for the last eleven years.

Do not buy into what the some media outlets have already said about this. Casually saying that this is a frequent occurrence is false, and is an attempt to downplay the major ramifications for these decisions. We have never been so restricted in defending ourselves as we have now. This is not just a stand down. The other implication of this decision is that we will perhaps never regain our relationship with the ANA after we have executed these measures to protect ourselves from them. Essentially, we have left them to die as we watch from our high-tech cameras and UAVs. They will not forget this and I fear the relationship will never be the same.

I love you very much Dad and I don’t want you to worry about me any more than you already are, but I also know that this has to be brought up, someone has to say something about this. It is wrong to keep this hidden away while American soldiers are under constant threat of death and dying. I don’t care if you send this letter directly, this needs to be known.

Your son,

[In Afghanistan]
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fuck the afghan army ... but most of all , fuck the war on terror ... boycott NOW !!!!
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Good post.

If the Admin cannot support our soldiers, or pull them out, we need to get one that will.
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Don't think too much, you didn't join the army to think anyway now did you? Let the masters boss you around as you were trained, all dogs must listen.
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true or not, we will soon be spread so thin that there may be no air support for certain troops. Certain unlucky units may be cut off or even abandoned and slaughtered as we go further into bankruptcy. There's simply no more money to finance these wars. Besides, who wants to fight for hitler? I'd get the hell out of the military as soon as possible......
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Did Obama tell you to post that flag, you tool?
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Don't think too much, you didn't join the army to think anyway now did you? Let the masters boss you around as you were trained, all dogs must listen.
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^^^ I hope that was sarcasm ^^^
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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Good post.

If the Admin cannot support our soldiers, or pull them out, we need to get one that will.
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Amen sister.

And thanks to whoever pinned this. It's important.

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WTG commander...

Here is our policy under Obama...

If it doesn't fuck up the Middle east more than it already is?...Ignore it...If it does?...assist it.
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Then all flag and theater XOs MUST STAND DOWN their Ops & "mission" and abandon any further operations, save for immediate exfil and evac.
The Joint Chiefs must evac them now and to hell with Potus capitulation. They're siting ducks. Get out!
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WTG commander...

Here is our policy under Obama...

If it doesn't fuck up the Middle east more than it already is?...Ignore it...If it does?...assist it.
 Quoting: SHR


yes
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Jan 1st the military will be cut back by $600 billion. So it's coming.....
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Jan 1st the military will be cut back by $600 billion. So it's coming.....
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No doubt Obama will sign an executive order deducting the cost of ammo from soldiers' paychecks.
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Then all flag and theater XOs MUST STAND DOWN their Ops & "mission" and abandon any further operations, save for immediate exfil and evac.
The Joint Chiefs must evac them now and to hell with Potus capitulation. They're siting ducks. Get out!
 Quoting: Top Hat


Agreed.

Obama is in full-on demoralization mode, first allowing flagrant faggotry in the service, then making the rules of engagement a death sentence for our people, and now cutting off air support.

He wants the Taliban back in charge of the 'stan. They will work nicely with the Muslim Brotherhood.

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I agree... every word sounded like a professional writer... who ends a letter "your son"?

From the first paragraph to the 'your son, fake, fake, fake!

Very SHILLY
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Yeah because there are no articulate people in the military, that's what your programming dictates, so that is how it must be.

You Obamatards are in such deep denial it is really astonishing sometimes...or you just want a quasi-communist America...either conclusion is disgustingly pathetic.
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Jan 1st the military will be cut back by $600 billion. So it's coming.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


No doubt Obama will sign an executive order deducting the cost of ammo from soldiers' paychecks.
 Quoting: The Governor


I have a feeling that they'll soon be spending their own money for better gear than what is issued. As we further bankrupt they will not receive the long term healthcare required. Their families will have to be the healthcare provider.
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"Lack of attention"??

since when did those wars cause the people of the US to rise up in protest and demand they stop them?

never


They don't even talk about them on my local news ; for many many months


Those who continue to sign up need to seek mental health first
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Endless war built into the economy...didn't you get the memo.......non-support for soldiers..yes if you want to eliminate loyal american patriot soldiers who may come home and defend the homeland you must frag them.....just like general custer was by grant!!
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A soldier on the ground refers to themsives as "our troops"?
This may be happening and that sucks, but that letter is


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true or not, we will soon be spread so thin that there may be no air support for certain troops. Certain unlucky units may be cut off or even abandoned and slaughtered as we go further into bankruptcy. There's simply no more money to finance these wars. Besides, who wants to fight for hitler? I'd get the hell out of the military as soon as possible......
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Get ready for the draft.
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"Lack of attention"??

since when did those wars cause the people of the US to rise up in protest and demand they stop them?

never


They don't even talk about them on my local news ; for many many months


Those who continue to sign up need to seek mental health first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23487446


Actually, Americans have protested against the wars....the Iraq war in particular.

The protest never made it to the main stream media.

All western media is subservient to TPTB.

There is no true "freedom of the press".
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 Quoting: juiceman


I agree... every word sounded like a professional writer... who ends a letter "your son"?

From the first paragraph to the 'your son, fake, fake, fake!

Very SHILLY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044


Yeah because there are no articulate people in the military, that's what your programming dictates, so that is how it must be.

You Obamatards are in such deep denial it is really astonishing sometimes...or you just want a quasi-communist America...either conclusion is disgustingly pathetic.
 Quoting: SHR


clappa
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A soldier on the ground refers to themsives as "our troops"?
This may be happening and that sucks, but that letter is


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Soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines. "Troops" is a shorter generic term.

And you're silly.
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Jan 1st the military will be cut back by $600 billion. So it's coming.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


No doubt Obama will sign an executive order deducting the cost of ammo from soldiers' paychecks.
 Quoting: The Governor


I have a feeling that they'll soon be spending their own money for better gear than what is issued. As we further bankrupt they will not receive the long term healthcare required. Their families will have to be the healthcare provider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


Obastard already wants soldiers to pay for their own healthcare.

We need to exit that sand pit and leave the Tuscan Raider koranimals to their goats & little boys.

Let Karzi play the cards he's chosen & wall that hellhole off for good.
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Obama's rules of engagement are getting good Americans KILLED.
Lots of them...

But, that's OK, because the media no longer reports soldier deaths the way they did under Bush.

NBC Evening NEws has only mentioned the total number killed in the wars THREE TIMES since election night 2008.

Up to then, they reported the total killed EVERY SINGLE NIGHT for three years.
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Jan 1st the military will be cut back by $600 billion. So it's coming.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


No doubt Obama will sign an executive order deducting the cost of ammo from soldiers' paychecks.
 Quoting: The Governor


I have a feeling that they'll soon be spending their own money for better gear than what is issued. As we further bankrupt they will not receive the long term healthcare required. Their families will have to be the healthcare provider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


Obastard already wants soldiers to pay for their own healthcare.

We need to exit that sand pit and leave the Tuscan Raider koranimals to their goats & little boys.

Let Karzi play the cards he's chosen & wall that hellhole off for good.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


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Obama wants to kill or maime as many American soldiers as possible.

The scum that support Obama only want a free cell phone or free trillion dollar bank bail outs.

We are fucked.
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I REALY WISH our troops would all pack up their shit and come home, with it without being told to do so. I really think Obama is trying to kill as many of our soldiers as he can so there won't be anyone left to help us out when he declares himself high ruler... Or turns our country over to the UN.
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The compulsive liar was supposed to be bringing them home from the day he was elected according to his own words. He's already claimed to have killed Osama for the 2nd or 3rd time now so according to the supposed reason we were there in the first place is done and over with. There's no more reason to be there tormenting impoverished civilians, enough innocent people have been killed already.
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