To Belgium: I didn't go looking for the "idea" of lucifer... just looking for first-hand testimonials related to Jesus Christ and the lucifer it seems like the banks worship... dig around and see for yourself...

to the other comment: I used to think that Lou (aka "Sleeper) was on to something and have read most if not all of his original thread and done a lot of research not listed, around this topic.

I am posting the general conclusion I have come to by posting this list.

I think if "Sleeper" turned to Jesus Christ he would no longer have dealings with the supposed "ETs"

Although I now follow Jesus Christ, I will allow that someone might say, as regards those the term has helped (see Mufon researcher link on the list) that merely the words "Jesus Christ" are somehow magical incantations that make the phenomenon go away... though I don't think that is the case, especially since it doesn't work for everyone.

I now suspect that Lou and myself and others have been dupes of a luciferian deception...

dido, Hidden Hand, btw

see the list, look through it and do your own research