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The U.S. Military Thinks Israel Might Strike Iran Using The Dangerous 'Entebbe Option'

 
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Y'all have a unrealistic view of Israeli military prowess. The Israelis are filthy cowards, they I'll never intentionally run into battle. However they are good at tricking others to fight for them...
Remember, how bad the hezbullahs kicked ther ass
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Israel is currently led by the brother of the guy who planned/led the Entebbe Raid...
OF COURSE it is an option.

Me thinks you might be an idiot.
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Currently, the "Entebbe" and airstrike options are currently slated to both take place simultaneously.

A large and operation specific commando unit will be sent in two groups. The main force and one smaller forward reconnaissance group. The reconnaissance force will also be involved in a misdirection strategy and will most likely face heavy losses in comparison with the main strike force.

The airstrike will take place when the reconnaissance group begins its misdirection attack. The airstrike will initially provide close air support in combination with the commando raid in addition to removing air defences. The secondary wave will be responsible for remnant target destruction and extraction protection.

The commando unit still may be removed at the last moment depending on final intelligence (but left on hot mission standby) if Israel decides to employ a pure airstrike option and expend a large portion of their Deep Throat arsenal.
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well, not sure if this is the real 535, but if it is, long time no hear, though I have to admit I haven't frequented here in a while...

I would surmise this is a suicide mission, with so many things required to operate with swiss watch precision. We found out about landing in the desert in 1979, and THAT aspect alone doomed that mission. Landing a C-130 is entirely a different matter than a few helicopters, and that would ASSUME they have no radar, advanced warning, SAM's or other defensive weapons...

regardless, I would think the whole damn world will come down on the Iranians like a beast from hell the moment the "test" their device...

otherwise, it will be a mexican standoff, and that is not a good outcome, regardless of who is pointing what, at who...

as for all us watching with baited breath, I wonder of your past threads and what you talked about your group, and what they were preparing to do, to save humanity, from what is coming..

any comments on that?
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What a joke, Iran hasn't attacked any other country or threatened to in over a century, only defended itself. They do not have nukes, yet Israel does and has attacked their neighbors and their own citizens. Hell they've even attacked the US(USS Liberty) and have killed Americans in many other terror plots carried out by Zionists posing as Jews.
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Calm down. Have a bacon cheeseburger!
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Currently, the "Entebbe" and airstrike options are currently slated to both take place simultaneously.

A large and operation specific commando unit will be sent in two groups. The main force and one smaller forward reconnaissance group. The reconnaissance force will also be involved in a misdirection strategy and will most likely face heavy losses in comparison with the main strike force.

The airstrike will take place when the reconnaissance group begins its misdirection attack. The airstrike will initially provide close air support in combination with the commando raid in addition to removing air defences. The secondary wave will be responsible for remnant target destruction and extraction protection.

The commando unit still may be removed at the last moment depending on final intelligence (but left on hot mission standby) if Israel decides to employ a pure airstrike option and expend a large portion of their Deep Throat arsenal.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


well, not sure if this is the real 535, but if it is, long time no hear, though I have to admit I haven't frequented here in a while...

I would surmise this is a suicide mission, with so many things required to operate with swiss watch precision. We found out about landing in the desert in 1979, and THAT aspect alone doomed that mission. Landing a C-130 is entirely a different matter than a few helicopters, and that would ASSUME they have no radar, advanced warning, SAM's or other defensive weapons...

regardless, I would think the whole damn world will come down on the Iranians like a beast from hell the moment the "test" their device...

otherwise, it will be a mexican standoff, and that is not a good outcome, regardless of who is pointing what, at who...

as for all us watching with baited breath, I wonder of your past threads and what you talked about your group, and what they were preparing to do, to save humanity, from what is coming..

any comments on that?
 Quoting: Enigma 24579731


Desert One failed because it was poorly planned, and the forces involved had no desert experience of any kind. That became PAINFULLY obvious during execution.

The Israeli's, on the other hand, are the best-trained desert warriors on the planet, with a history of pulling off the impossible, many times. They have the best equipment, and more importantly, the REQUIRED equipment.

Opposing them is an untested security force of Muslims, whose combat history, though sometimes quite brave, shows a severe lack of leadership ability. Decapitation of local leadership will prove quite easy, and the Israeli's aren't looking to own the place.

Given that scenario, I know where I'd bet my money.
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Israel's likely inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity in a single stroke, even in a best-case scenario, has led U.S. war planners to speculate about a second, out-of-the-box, and extremely dangerous military option: what they're calling an "Iranian Entebbe."

In this scenario, the Israelis would forego a massed air attack and instead mount a high-risk but high-payoff commando raid that would land an elite Sayeret Matkal (special forces) unit outside of Iran's enrichment facility at Fordow, near Qom. The unit -- or other elite units like it -- consisting of perhaps as many as 400 soldiers, would seize Iran's enriched uranium for transport to Israel.

The operation's success would depend on speed, secrecy, simplicity, and the credibility of Israeli intelligence. According to the Pentagon war planner, Israel's access to intelligence on Iranian military and policy planning is unprecedented, as is their willingness to share it with U.S. intelligence officials.

The Israeli unit would be transported on as few as three and perhaps as many as six C-130 aircraft (which can carry a maximum of 70 troops) that would be protected by a "swarm" of well-armed F16Is, according to the scenario being considered by U.S. military officers. The C-130s would land in the desert near Fordow. The Israeli commandos would then defeat the heavily armed security personnel at the complex, penetrate its barriers and interdict any enemy units nearby, and seize the complex's uranium for transport back to Israel. Prior to its departure, the commando unit would destroy the complex, obviating the need for any high-level bombing attack. (Senior U.S. military officers say that there are reports that some of the uranium at Fordow is stored as uranium hexafluoride gas, a chemical form used during the enrichment process. In that case, the material may be left in place when the commandos destroy the complex.)

"It's doable, and they have to be thinking along these lines," the highly placed U.S. military officer said. "The IDF's special forces are the best asset Israel has." That said, "In some scenarios," the U.S. military planner who told me of the potential operation said, "there would be very high Israeli casualties because of nearby Republican Guard divisions. This operation could be quite bloody."

Bloody or not, the Israeli leadership may not be quick to dismiss such an operation, given Israel's history of using such units. Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are former Sayeret Matkal officers, and recently Israeli Defense Forces head Benny Gantz (himself a Sayeret Matkal veteran) said the IDF had formed an elite special operations "Deep Corps" to strike far inside hostile territory. And, of course, it bears remembering that Netanyahu's brother Yonatan was the sole casualty in Israel's Entebbe operation.

[link to www.foreignpolicy.com]
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How about this for an option.... Israel will use six C-130's to dump pig blood, manure and lard all over the complex, making it untouchable until obama has his sorry ass canned by the American people, then a real commander in chief (instead of a filthy sodomite) will unleash hell upon the iranian camel humper scum...
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If the OP knows this and I now know this? Why would the Iranians not know this? It will FAIL for sure.
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Israel's likely inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity in a single stroke, even in a best-case scenario, has led U.S. war planners to speculate about a second, out-of-the-box, and extremely dangerous military option: what they're calling an "Iranian Entebbe."

In this scenario, the Israelis would forego a massed air attack and instead mount a high-risk but high-payoff commando raid
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nah, nukes are quick and slick. no muss no fuss.
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Israel's likely inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity in a single stroke, even in a best-case scenario, has led U.S. war planners to speculate about a second, out-of-the-box, and extremely dangerous military option: what they're calling an "Iranian Entebbe."

In this scenario, the Israelis would forego a massed air attack and instead mount a high-risk but high-payoff commando raid
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nah, nukes are quick and slick. no muss no fuss.
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and anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.
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Israel's likely inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity in a single stroke, even in a best-case scenario, has led U.S. war planners to speculate about a second, out-of-the-box, and extremely dangerous military option: what they're calling an "Iranian Entebbe."

In this scenario, the Israelis would forego a massed air attack and instead mount a high-risk but high-payoff commando raid
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nah, nukes are quick and slick. no muss no fuss.
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and anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
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Just bunker buster it already... They are planning a nuke plants in Vietnam now! Grrreat, another concrete can of human RAID spray :(
Fcuk nuclear power! You just know the USA will have it's own Fukushima... the odds are 99%rant
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Just the fact that we are reading this on Foreign Policy and it's on Drudge compromises the (alleged) mission.

So much for the element of surprise, now.

WTF!!
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Sounds pretty intense... Do it, do it now!

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I hope they DON'T do this, now that the entire operation has been detailed in this article for the Iranians to read.

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Just the fact that we are reading this on Foreign Policy and it's on Drudge compromises the (alleged) mission.

So much for the element of surprise, now.

WTF!!
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sounds like this ad being aired at the moment
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Sounds pretty intense... Do it, do it now!

5a
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I hope they DON'T do this, now that the entire operation has been detailed in this article for the Iranians to read.

rant
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it would be the same as me reading the plan of a tactical assault on my home. just cause i read it doesn't mean the outcome for me will be better.
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We should all take a good look at Netanyahu's speech to the UN yesterday.

He was pleading for a consensus from all countries to
understand the urgency to draw the red line.

You don't need to sit through the whole speech.

Just listen to him speak from 22:00 to 28:00, you'll
understand there is a timeline with Israel.

He mentions "weeks", that's very important.

Someone on another thread said mid October or the
next new moon as the date Israel will attack.
If no red line is drawn by the UN, I do believe he
gave "his" red line in his speech.

Time will tell.

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I hope they try and every person involved is turned into hamburger
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Israel's likely inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity in a single stroke, even in a best-case scenario, has led U.S. war planners to speculate about a second, out-of-the-box, and extremely dangerous military option: what they're calling an "Iranian Entebbe."
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right. like the commandos are just going to knock on
the doors on these built-up bunkers and say "hello, please
let us in"

will these commando's be carrying 100 kt nuclear satchel-bombs, with really really long timer fuses on them? or what?
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so, anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.


and that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
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I hope they try and every person involved is turned into hamburger
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If all else fails, I guarantee they will try.

Let me ask you this though.

Why does Iran want a nuke?

They (iran) haven't shown aggression to any other country
for eons. There is no threat by any country against them either, but for the fact they are trying to make a nuclear bomb.

Why pursue making a bomb, if there is no true threat?

If they cooperate with the rest of the world,
the threat goes away instantly.
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I hope they try and every person involved is turned into hamburger
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yes, i expect all of the Iranians will pretty much be dead meat, alright.
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so, anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.


and that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Netanyahu says in his speech that most of the
facilities that enrich uranium are above ground.

If they wipe these sites out, it will set them back
for years.

They are soft targets at the moment.
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so, anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.


and that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Netanyahu says in his speech that most of the
facilities that enrich uranium are above ground.

If they wipe these sites out, it will set them back
for years.

They are soft targets at the moment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378340


nah, we're gonna blast them to smithereens just for what their think'in!
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so, anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.


and that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Netanyahu says in his speech that most of the
facilities that enrich uranium are above ground.

If they wipe these sites out, it will set them back
for years.

They are soft targets at the moment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378340


nah, we're gonna blast them to smithereens just for what their think'in!
 Quoting: there ain't no God


There is no doubt, Iran is about to get leveled.

No Mohammed coming to save them!
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so, anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.


and that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Netanyahu says in his speech that most of the
facilities that enrich uranium are above ground.

If they wipe these sites out, it will set them back
for years.

They are soft targets at the moment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378340


right. they're gonna leave their most important stuff right
out in the open where everyone can see. right.

o.k., little miss sunshine.
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Y'all have a unrealistic view of Israeli military prowess. The Israelis are filthy cowards, they I'll never intentionally run into battle. However they are good at tricking others to fight for them...
Remember, how bad the hezbullahs kicked ther ass
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What about the 6 days war? Seems like they fought like madmen during that engagement. I also remember that they managed to win... Maybe todays Israel is not the same as the Israel of 1967, but I have a feeling that in the last 40-odd years they possibly have only gotten better?
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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Sounds pretty intense... Do it, do it now!

5a
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Well it wwon't be the first time that Barak tried to get the entire Seyeret Matkal killed, but this time they won't have the Northern command to back them up or 669 to get them out..

BTW i didn't see mention of Matkal in Benny Gantz's bio. He was commander of Shaldag when they rescued 14,000 Ethopian Yidden in one day. That took negotiating skills. He is too smart to go along with this.

Also, Seyeret Matkal is one unit that has the option of refusing orders without penalty. If they determine that the mission is not doable, they don't do it.
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Israel's likely inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity in a single stroke, even in a best-case scenario, has led U.S. war planners to speculate about a second, out-of-the-box, and extremely dangerous military option: what they're calling an "Iranian Entebbe."

In this scenario, the Israelis would forego a massed air attack and instead mount a high-risk but high-payoff commando raid that would land an elite Sayeret Matkal (special forces) unit outside of Iran's enrichment facility at Fordow, near Qom. The unit -- or other elite units like it -- consisting of perhaps as many as 400 soldiers, would seize Iran's enriched uranium for transport to Israel.

The operation's success would depend on speed, secrecy, simplicity, and the credibility of Israeli intelligence. According to the Pentagon war planner, Israel's access to intelligence on Iranian military and policy planning is unprecedented, as is their willingness to share it with U.S. intelligence officials.

The Israeli unit would be transported on as few as three and perhaps as many as six C-130 aircraft (which can carry a maximum of 70 troops) that would be protected by a "swarm" of well-armed F16Is, according to the scenario being considered by U.S. military officers. The C-130s would land in the desert near Fordow. The Israeli commandos would then defeat the heavily armed security personnel at the complex, penetrate its barriers and interdict any enemy units nearby, and seize the complex's uranium for transport back to Israel. Prior to its departure, the commando unit would destroy the complex, obviating the need for any high-level bombing attack. (Senior U.S. military officers say that there are reports that some of the uranium at Fordow is stored as uranium hexafluoride gas, a chemical form used during the enrichment process. In that case, the material may be left in place when the commandos destroy the complex.)

"It's doable, and they have to be thinking along these lines," the highly placed U.S. military officer said. "The IDF's special forces are the best asset Israel has." That said, "In some scenarios," the U.S. military planner who told me of the potential operation said, "there would be very high Israeli casualties because of nearby Republican Guard divisions. This operation could be quite bloody."

Bloody or not, the Israeli leadership may not be quick to dismiss such an operation, given Israel's history of using such units. Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are former Sayeret Matkal officers, and recently Israeli Defense Forces head Benny Gantz (himself a Sayeret Matkal veteran) said the IDF had formed an elite special operations "Deep Corps" to strike far inside hostile territory. And, of course, it bears remembering that Netanyahu's brother Yonatan was the sole casualty in Israel's Entebbe operation.

[link to www.foreignpolicy.com]
 Quoting: DL


Let's tell the truth as it is, Israeli troops are used to fight weak Palestinians, when they crossed over to Lebanon in the last war, Hizbolla kicked their ass, and guess who trained Hisbolla's fighters?---> Iran
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so, anyway, it's gonna take 100 kt nuclear bunker busters
to take out all these built-up areas.


and that's why the U.S. and Israel are being so hesitant about
doing this thing: because using nuclear weapons is going
to be a big embarrassment for them. but, Iran has given them
no choice. they have to do it.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Netanyahu says in his speech that most of the
facilities that enrich uranium are above ground.

If they wipe these sites out, it will set them back
for years.

They are soft targets at the moment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378340


right. they're gonna leave their most important stuff right
out in the open where everyone can see. right.

o.k., little miss sunshine.
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Looks like your comments are real popular here.

Not every target is in a mountain...dipshit!
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Y'all have a unrealistic view of Israeli military prowess. The Israelis are filthy cowards, they I'll never intentionally run into battle. However they are good at tricking others to fight for them...
Remember, how bad the hezbullahs kicked ther ass
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What about the 6 days war? Seems like they fought like madmen during that engagement. I also remember that they managed to win... Maybe todays Israel is not the same as the Israel of 1967, but I have a feeling that in the last 40-odd years they possibly have only gotten better?
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"but I have a feeling that in the last 40-odd years they possibly have only gotten better?"

ya think?

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