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Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale

 
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I have had many profound experiences over the years, one of which was to witness the Creation of a new world. A complete description of what I witnessed first hand would fill several posts... explaining HOW such an observation is even possible, much less proving such an experience, to the usual degree of satisfaction, scientifically or otherwise is of course impossible. I did not have a camera to capture the event and I have no idea where or even when this event took place in any sense of normalized space-time coordinates.

This lack of any acceptable, supporting, credible evidence is the problem when witnessing ANY super-natural event or action, while out-side of the conventional norms of awareness, or consciousness as postulated by science or even religious beliefs. My experience does not fall into either category, but does provide a deeper insight into Creation as an Action of explicit intelligence and purpose to the specific results.

Thus, I could easily add several paragraphs to the beginning of Genesis, but I seriously doubt a single established religious order would give me the time of day, not that any scientific order would take that call either, thus neither side gives any respect to any viewpoint not controlled or established by their dogmatic theories.

In a nutshell, I watched a world being Created, much like a fractal quality of shapes, from small then to large, behind a luminous, crystal-clear, blue arching field energy from the depths below to the heights above, from horizon to horizon in a continuous wave-form, where the totality of everything materialized, simultaneously--- lands, seas, atmosphere with all manner of living things seemingly spontaneously emerging in ever greater numbers, already perfectly formed and functioning. I watched complex forests rising up and covering the lands, while the waters below turned into oceans filled with life as well.

This luminous blue wave-form passed right through me even as I was lifted up much like a surfer in front of a very large wave rolling beneath. I could hear and smell everything perfectly as I watched from a height of several hundred feet above the waters along the emerging coast-line. I was there for quite awhile and the light came from the wave-form, but as it passed and continued over the curvature of this new world I also witnessed the sun rising and was then able to see the newly formed world on its first day.

Witnessing one single act of Creation does not make me an expert or provide me with any understanding of the underlying mechanism of how such an Act is even possible. The mind simply does not comprehend such an Act it can only ponder the mystery. When the truth is more profound then men can know... well such imponderables will remain just that.... and I wouldn't call the intelligence of that Act a 'god' as it was quite superior to the very idea itself.
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Just common sense too. Just look around, then look at humans and say it with a straight face that we evolved. Ha! It is all too complicated and perfect. It is common sense. Really. The complicated and detailed creations have one creator, God. Just screams it.
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Just common sense too. Just look around, then look at humans and say it with a straight face that we evolved. Ha! It is all too complicated and perfect. It is common sense. Really. The complicated and detailed creations have one creator, God. Just screams it.
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Agreed, Evolution is absurd on its face.

They know they have to get this nonsense hammered into early gradeschool curriculum because people will simple laugh at it otherwise.
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The average evolutionist would have us believe that all TRUE scientists accept Darwin’s theory as fact. Sir John Huxley, grandson of Thomas Huxley, wrote the following in 1959:

The point to make about Darwin’s theory of evolution is that it is no longer a theory, but a fact. No serious scientist would deny the fact that evolution has occurred, just as he would not deny the fact that the earth goes around the sun.

(Tax, Sol, Ed. “Evolution After Darwin,” Issues in Evolution, Chicago University Press, 1960, Vol. 3, p. 41.)

See how the system works? A scientist cannot be recognized as a SERIOUS scientist unless he REJECTS THE BIBLE and RECEIVES EVOLUTION. Well, there have been, and still are, MANY serious scientists who do not believe in evolution.

For example, Dr. Albert Fleischman, Professor of Zoology at the University of Erlangen in Germany, says,


“The Darwinian theory of evolution has not a single fact to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research, but purely the product of the imagination.”

Professor L.T. More, of the University of Chicago, says,

“Unfortunately for Darwin’s future reputation, everyone of his arguments is contradicted by fact.”

Professor A.C. Steward, from the Cambridge University, says,

A student who takes an impartial retrospect soon discovers that the fossil record raises more problems than it solves.”

Dr. Austin Clark, F.R.G.S., of the American Geophysical Union, opposes evolution by saying,

“The great groups of animal life do not merge into one another. They are and have been fixed from the beginning.”



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THE STUPID!! THE OCD!! THE PAIN IN CHANGING PARADIGMS!! it hurts!!! ... It pains me to see people living like you OP. But it tells me there are many like you.

Hard headed noob holier-than-thou with a total lack of common sense. Yes, evolution is abstract for the simple-minded, and yes there are mechanisms within evolution we don't fully comprehend but they are minimal compared to the enormous evidence out there.

... magic man done it... has no basis except if you say that the universe is a simulation and was designed only since the big bang. There is a huge possibility still for that.

If you haven't figured it out by now, I would assume you are a lost cause.

You are soooo important to the universe, yet have such little self-worth that when you realize you exist by fluke chance you flip out and cannot imagine how such a big ego can fit in such a beautiful explanation as evolution.

You want a purpose to exist? Hows this: be smart and happy! Stay off the meds and koolaid and read some proper books!
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And the bible has NOOO place in the debate. This isn't a game, and please don't indoctrinate kids with your horse shit!

If you can come up with another explanation other than the bible, then I think people might listen.

The bible is piddly squat medieval propaganda, nothing more. The human mind is powerful enough to do amazing things like make it appear that GOD is real. Don't you see!???

Get it through your fat head. It does not define how much you are worth, FFS man.

Aliens, pre-designed universes, et al., those might have more to argue than a primitive book of flawed history showing mostly the traits of the human condition than anything else!
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science has brought modern man many wonderful things which are sometimes taken for granted...real miracles. science can admit when its wrong. science can adapt. many things in science are testable and not strictly theory or faith. many thing that were once theory are now fact. and while there may be a creator who made an evolving universe, evolution carries more weight imo than believing that zeus got someones fiancee pregos.
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science has brought modern man many wonderful things which are sometimes taken for granted...real miracles. science can admit when its wrong. science can adapt. many things in science are testable and not strictly theory or faith.
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This is a non-sequitor. Nobody is criticizing science, but the religious, largely unfalsifiable dogma of Darwinism.

It is an antiquated idea that has not held up to the test of time. Adhered to for obvious psychological and socioe-conomical reasons now more than anything. Think about all the careers that depend on keeping the bluff of Darwinian Evolution going.
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What Are the Top Ten Problems with Darwinian Evolution?


1 Lack of a viable mechanism for producing high levels of complex and specified information. Related to this are problems with the Darwinian mechanism producing irreducibly complex features, and the problems of non-functional or deleterious intermediate stages. (For details see: "The NCSE, Judge Jones, and Bluffs About the Origin of New Functional Genetic Information," "Do Car Engines Run on Lugnuts? A Response to Ken Miller & Judge Jones's Straw Tests of Irreducible Complexity for the Bacterial Flagellum," "Opening Darwin's Black Box," or "Can Random Mutations Create New Complex Features? A Response to TalkOrigins");

2 The failure of the fossil record to provide support for Darwinian evolution. (For details, see "Punctuated Equilibrium and Patterns from the Fossil Record" or "Intelligent Design Has Scientific Merit in Paleontology");

3 The failure of molecular biology to provide evidence for a grand "tree of life." (For details, see: "A Primer on the Tree of Life");

4 Natural selection is an extremely inefficient method of spreading traits in populations unless a trait has an extremely high selection coefficient;

5 The problem that convergent evolution appears rampant -- at both the genetic and morphological levels, even though under Darwinian theory this is highly unlikely. (For details, see "Convergent Genetic Evolution: 'Surprising' Under Unguided Evolution, Expected Under Intelligent Design" and "Dolphins and Porpoises and...Bats? Oh My! Evolution's Convergence Problem");

6 The failure of chemistry to explain the origin of the genetic code. (For details, see "The origin of life remains a mystery" or "Problems with the Natural Chemical 'Origin of Life'");

7 The failure of developmental biology to explain why vertebrate embryos diverge from the beginning of development. (For details, see: "Evolving views of embryology," "A Reply to Carl Zimmer on Embryology and Developmental Biology," "Current Textbooks Misuse Embryology to Argue for Evolution");

8 The failure of neo-Darwinian evolution to explain the biogeographical distribution of many species. (For details, see "Sea Monkey Hypotheses Refute the NCSE's Biogeography Objections to Explore Evolution" or "Sea Monkeys Are the Tip of the Iceberg: More Biogeographical Conundrums for Neo-Darwinism");

9 A long history of inaccurate predictions inspired by neo-Darwinism regarding vestigial organs or so-called "junk" DNA. (For details, ] see: "Intelligent Design and the Death of the 'Junk-DNA' Neo-Darwinian Paradigm," "The Latest Proof of Evolution: The Appendix Has No Important Function," or "Does Darrel Falk's Junk DNA Argument for Common Descent Commit 'One of the Biggest Mistakes in the History of Molecular Biology'?);

10 Humans show many behavioral and cognitive traits and abilities that offer no apparent survival advantage (e.g. music, art, religion, ability to ponder the nature of the universe).


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science has brought modern man many wonderful things which are sometimes taken for granted...real miracles. science can admit when its wrong. science can adapt. many things in science are testable and not strictly theory or faith.
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This is a non-sequitor. Nobody is criticizing science, but the religious, largely unfalsifiable dogma of Darwinism.

It is an antiquated idea that has not held up to the test of time. Adhered to for obvious psychological and socioe-conomical reasons now more than anything. Think about all the careers that depend on keeping the bluff of Darwinian Evolution going.
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it is about science, because physics and cosmology meet similar resistance from those devoted to their religious beliefs. and they hold on to their beliefs "for obvious psychological and socioe-conomical reasons". heck, joel osteen converted a professional basketball stadium into a church...id love to see the just the annual electricity bill.

What Are the Top Ten Problems with Darwinian Evolution?

10 Humans show many behavioral and cognitive traits and abilities that offer no apparent survival advantage (e.g. music, art, religion, ability to ponder the nature of the universe).

[link to www.evolutionnews.org]
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reasons 1 through 9 are negated by the shallow mindedness and failure of reason 10. do you concur that religion and the ability to ponder the universe do not contribute to man's survival?

and it probably doesnt matter anyway cause i think we will eventually find signs of extraterrestrial life and the game will change. maybe curiosity will find something on december 21st...
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science has brought modern man many wonderful things which are sometimes taken for granted...real miracles. science can admit when its wrong. science can adapt. many things in science are testable and not strictly theory or faith.
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This is a non-sequitor. Nobody is criticizing science, but the religious, largely unfalsifiable dogma of Darwinism.

It is an antiquated idea that has not held up to the test of time. Adhered to for obvious psychological and socioe-conomical reasons now more than anything. Think about all the careers that depend on keeping the bluff of Darwinian Evolution going.
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it is about science, because physics and cosmology meet similar resistance from those devoted to their religious beliefs. and they hold on to their beliefs "for obvious psychological and socioe-conomical reasons"
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You're being very disingenuous here. obviously religious beliefs can hinder empirical science, but legitimate scientific dissent can not simply be labeled as religious anti-science just for convenience. It may work that way in Richard Dawkins books, but not in reality.

What Are the Top Ten Problems with Darwinian Evolution?

10 Humans show many behavioral and cognitive traits and abilities that offer no apparent survival advantage (e.g. music, art, religion, ability to ponder the nature of the universe).

[link to www.evolutionnews.org]
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reasons 1 through 9 are negated by the shallow mindedness and failure of reason 10. do you concur that religion and the ability to ponder the universe do not contribute to man's survival?

and it probably doesnt matter anyway cause i think we will eventually find signs of extraterrestrial life and the game will change. maybe curiosity will find something on december 21st...
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humans are self-evidently different than the rest of the animal kingdom. you can call the works of Mozart the result of random brain mutations that originated with a fish millions of years ago, but that really amounts to no more than rather absurd speculation.

and I'm sure the Darwinists are going to collectively shift to Panspermia very soon, as the comical abiogenesis thing is just not going to hold up to the public. There is a pervading illusion that we figured out some hints through molecular biology, but the reality is that it just got 100x worse for Naturalistic origins.

When in doubt: Aliens.
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The Absurdities of Whale Evolution

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50 Peer-Reviewed articles refuting Neo-Darwinism as an explanation for life and biodiversity


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In 2011, the ID movement counted its 50th peer-reviewed scientific paper and new publications continue to appear. The current boom goes back to 2004, when Discovery Institute senior fellow Stephen Meyer published a groundbreaking paper advocating ID in the journal Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. There are multiple hubs of ID-related research.

Biologic Institute, led by molecular biologist Doug Axe, is "developing and testing the scientific case for intelligent design in biology." Biologic conducts laboratory and theoretical research on the origin and role of information in biology, the fine-tuning of the universe for life, and methods of detecting design in nature.

Another ID research group is the Evolutionary Informatics Lab, founded by senior Discovery Institute fellow William Dembski along with Robert Marks, Distinguished Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Baylor University. Their lab has attracted graduate-student researchers and published multiple peer-reviewed articles in technical science and engineering journals showing that computer programming "points to the need for an ultimate information source qua intelligent designer."

Other pro-ID scientists around the world are publishing peer-reviewed pro-ID scientific papers. These include biologist Ralph Seelke at the University of Wisconsin Superior, Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig who recently retired from the Max Planck Institute for Plant Breeding Research in Germany, and Lehigh University biochemist Michael Behe.


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Scientists Observe New Genes Evolving from Mutated Copies...

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Scientists Observe New Genes Evolving from Mutated Copies...

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Yea? And what functions did those "new genes" go on to accomplish?
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Read about the endless and major differences between Humans and the "great apes"

[link to carta.anthropogeny.org]
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bump for clearing up inept theories of origins
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Scientists Observe New Genes Evolving from Mutated Copies...

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

[link to www.biosciencetechnology.com]
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Yea? And what functions did those "new genes" go on to accomplish?
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the new genes began to make tryptophan which the original gene wasnt coded for. something changed...
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Read about the endless and major differences between Humans and the "great apes"

[link to carta.anthropogeny.org]
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good site.

i think our evolution began at the time of the big bang from simple atoms. our evolution was happening even before the earth was formed.
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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Read about the endless and major differences between Humans and the "great apes"

[link to carta.anthropogeny.org]
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good site.

i think our evolution began at the time of the big bang from simple atoms. our evolution was happening even before the earth was formed.
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There was no 'big bang' as 'science' claims. It has been discredited & debunked by other scientists.

Also if there are so many differences between man and the apes, then are we really primates at all? Wouldn't that be like putting the dogs and bears in the same genus?
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Read about the endless and major differences between Humans and the "great apes"

[link to carta.anthropogeny.org]
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good site.

i think our evolution began at the time of the big bang from simple atoms. our evolution was happening even before the earth was formed.
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There was no 'big bang' as 'science' claims. It has been discredited & debunked by other scientists.

Also if there are so many differences between man and the apes, then are we really primates at all? Wouldn't that be like putting the dogs and bears in the same genus?
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actually, the big bang is still the prevailing scientific theory for the origin of the universe. what would you propose as an alternative theory?

would you agree that humans, apes, dogs and bears are mammals?


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Fossils of Birds of Flight discovered in the Triassic. (Oops they weren't supposed to have "evolved" from dinosaurs till at least 50-100 million years later!)


"The presence of flight trace fossils (Volichnia), i.e. footprints with elongated hallux impressions that are interpreted as representing low angle landing, associated with probing marks and a similar morphology of Gruipeda dominguensis with tracks of modern shorebirds, strongly suggest an avian affinity for the producers of the fossil tracks." 2009

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Darwinism falsified yet again. But of course they can never admit it. Just keep going with that poker-face guys. Hopefully nobody will notice your non-existent hand.

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