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Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale

 
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Fossils of Birds of Flight discovered in the Triassic. (Oops they weren't supposed to have "evolved" from dinosaurs till at least 50-100 million years later!)


"The presence of flight trace fossils (Volichnia), i.e. footprints with elongated hallux impressions that are interpreted as representing low angle landing, associated with probing marks and a similar morphology of Gruipeda dominguensis with tracks of modern shorebirds, strongly suggest an avian affinity for the producers of the fossil tracks." 2009

[link to www.arn.org]


Darwinism falsified yet again. But of course they can never admit it. Just keep going with that poker-face guys. Hopefully nobody will notice your non-existent hand.
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were there any bone fossils found? otherwise, we dont know what these things were or if they were even flying...
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Fossils of Birds of Flight discovered in the Triassic. (Oops they weren't supposed to have "evolved" from dinosaurs till at least 50-100 million years later!)


"The presence of flight trace fossils (Volichnia), i.e. footprints with elongated hallux impressions that are interpreted as representing low angle landing, associated with probing marks and a similar morphology of Gruipeda dominguensis with tracks of modern shorebirds, strongly suggest an avian affinity for the producers of the fossil tracks." 2009

[link to www.arn.org]


Darwinism falsified yet again. But of course they can never admit it. Just keep going with that poker-face guys. Hopefully nobody will notice your non-existent hand.
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were there any bone fossils found? otherwise, we dont know what these things were or if they were even flying...
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read the article. there are distinct tracks made when a bird is landing from flight. and other details.
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The same protein mechanism "evolves" in widely distant species.


"Surprising" Convergent Genetic Evolution in Insects

What are the odds that two genes would independently converge on a similar DNA sequence? Well, they're so low that molecular systematists make one of their ground rules the supposition that any two genes that have molecular homology MUST have shared a common ancestor. The odds of two genes independently arriving at the same sequence are simply too low.



"The researchers carried out a survey of DNA sequences from 29 distantly related insect species, the largest sample of organisms yet examined for a single evolutionary trait. Fourteen of these species have evolved a nearly identical characteristic due to one external influence -- they feed on plants that produce cardenolides, a class of steroid-like cardiotoxins that are a natural defense for plants such as milkweed and dogbane.

Though separated by 300 million years of evolution, these diverse insects -- which include beetles, butterflies and aphids -- experienced changes to a key protein called sodium-potassium adenosine triphosphatase, or the sodium-potassium pump, which regulates a cell's crucial sodium-to-potassium ratio. The protein in these insects eventually evolved a resistance to cardenolides, which usually cripple the protein's ability to "pump" potassium into cells and excess sodium out."

[link to www.evolutionnews.org]
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And the bible has NOOO place in the debate. This isn't a game, and please don't indoctrinate kids with your horse shit!

If you can come up with another explanation other than the bible, then I think people might listen.

The bible is piddly squat medieval propaganda, nothing more. The human mind is powerful enough to do amazing things like make it appear that GOD is real. Don't you see!???

Get it through your fat head. It does not define how much you are worth, FFS man.

Aliens, pre-designed universes, et al., those might have more to argue than a primitive book of flawed history showing mostly the traits of the human condition than anything else!
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This is the Hate of the Un-saved...lost....reprobate mind that the Creator of the Universe will execute in the lake of fire..........

You have been warned......You travel down your life deluded by false science when GOD has given you a perfect refutaion to your lies in the world around you.

You have eyes but can't see, ears but can't hear:

Just where will you be on your deathbed ?(assuming you have a deathbed and don't drive off a cliff or meet an ignominious end in some bar or at the end of another man's gun or knife)

The LOST MAN (or woman) doesn't contempate their fate at the end of their lives because they have no revelation from GOD that the END will come. They rant and rail and teach other men to do so as well.......They say God isn't real and is a fairy tale......but they don't consider the error of such actions

Will you ever consider there is a CREATOR GOD out there that made everything in this Universe.......and that God isn't some ET or BIG BANG/BLACK HOLE force ?

Have it your way if you want to go into that BLACK HOLE in the end of your life......which might be far sooner than NORMAL.

I've seen it before.....railers like you......usually die an unnatural death far earlier than most or are most hateful in their "retirement years" if they do make it into their 60-70-or 80's
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As opposed to a magical man with a beard popping everything into existence... Yeah huge fairytale right their evolution...
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Fossils of Birds of Flight discovered in the Triassic. (Oops they weren't supposed to have "evolved" from dinosaurs till at least 50-100 million years later!)


"The presence of flight trace fossils (Volichnia), i.e. footprints with elongated hallux impressions that are interpreted as representing low angle landing, associated with probing marks and a similar morphology of Gruipeda dominguensis with tracks of modern shorebirds, strongly suggest an avian affinity for the producers of the fossil tracks." 2009

[link to www.arn.org]


Darwinism falsified yet again. But of course they can never admit it. Just keep going with that poker-face guys. Hopefully nobody will notice your non-existent hand.
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were there any bone fossils found? otherwise, we dont know what these things were or if they were even flying...
 Quoting: Edge Rider



read the article. there are distinct tracks made when a bird is landing from flight. and other details.
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i did read the article. yes, they do "look" like bird tracks.

was this thing landing or was it hopping around giving the appearance of landing? did it have feathers? did it have wings? could it even fly? what was it?
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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The Cleaner Fish

Let's first start with the cleaner fish. This fish will swim into a shark's mouth and eat remnant food particles from the shark's teeth. The cleaner fish departs with a satisfied appetite, and the shark is happy because his teeth are cleaned in the process. The shark does not allow any other kinds of fish into its mouth without chomping down for a good lunch. Indeed, what other fish would dare attempt to swim into a shark's mouth! This type of relationship is called a symbiotic relationship. Creationists point out that these relationships clearly represent a design that could not have occurred by chance. Evolutionists have a very difficult time explaining how these types of relationships could evolve with time.

Nevertheless, an evolutionist will somehow have us believe that the cleaner fish eventually figured out he could go in the shark's mouth, and the shark eventually figured out that he should let him so as to maintain proper dental hygiene. The following illustrations portray the likely repercussions of this ill-advised bravery.

Nobel Prize winner and evolutionist Albert Szent-Gyorgyi acknowledged that time, chance, and random mutations could never produce the numerous symbiotic relationships we see all around us (He went on to postulate an impersonal creative force, an "innate drive in living matter" in an attempt to make peace with his faith in evolution)1.

Let's face it, symbiosis clearly points to a Designer. The lengths an evolutionist must go to explain away this one is beyond fairy tale!

"If it could be proved that any part of the structure of any one species had been formed for the exclusive good of another species, it would annihilate my theory, for such could not have been produced through natural selection." - Charles Darwin


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Are you fucking serious? That's a horrible example that proves nothing. Over hundreds of millions of years, it is completely obvious that two animals could form a symbiotic relationship. Little fish start eating scraps near large sharks, little fish get closer and closer, they learn to tolerate each other. Shark brains start to recognize little fish as harmless, and little fish recognize already full and satiated sharks as harmless. Little fish start grabbing food scraps from right next to shark's mouth. Sharks swim around with mouths open to allow little fish to do their thing. Little fish eventually swim into shark mouths to grab snacks. Over HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of fucking years, this type of relationship happens. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. There is so much time involved your religion-atrophied brain cannot comprehend it. What is the problem of seeing some sort of "creation" (likely genetic engineering from extraterrestrials) as the "hardware" and evolution as the "software" or the rules of the game of life? I think that is the most logical, intelligent answer and poses zero threat to anyone's beliefs. Life evolves in long processes of adaptation that take so much time we cannot imagine the slow pace it takes. Goddamn you relgious tards you are going to be the death of us ALL!
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Origins - Evolution - The Grand Experiment - Part 1 with Dr. Carl Werner


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Great video touching on the total lack of transitional fossils for major animal groups, bats, seals, dinosaurs, etc.
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[link to www.darwinspredictions.com]

EVOLUTION'S FAILED PREDICTIONS


Great document revealing how Evolutionists' predictions have constantly been wrong and have led to dropping the predictions, and adding new models and hypothesis to fit the data, instead of ever applying criticism to the Evolutionary premise itself.
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Tetrapod tracks discovered nearly 20 million years before Tiktaalik.


The fossil record of the earliest tetrapods (vertebrates with limbs rather than paired fins) consists of body fossils and trackways. The earliest body fossils of tetrapods date to the Late Devonian period (late Frasnian stage) and are preceded by transitional elpistostegids such as Panderichthys and Tiktaalik that still have paired fins. Claims of tetrapod trackways predating these body fossils have remained controversial with regard to both age and the identity of the track makers. Here we present well-preserved and securely dated tetrapod tracks from Polish marine tidal flat sediments of early Middle Devonian (Eifelian stage) age that are approximately 18 million years older than the earliest tetrapod body fossils and 10 million years earlier than the oldest elpistostegids. They force a radical reassessment of the timing, ecology and environmental setting of the fish–tetrapod transition, as well as the completeness of the body fossil record.


[link to www.nature.com]


These tracks were caused by walking animals, with jointed knees.


Once again we have evidence of body plans appearing out of nowhere, defeating any notion of gradual transitions. The infamous Tiktaalik / Lade Devonian claims for tetrapod evolution fall flat on their face.
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This is honestly an interesting thread but I have only 1 question. If things can't randomly come into existence than what created GOD? Surely he is more complicated than humans yet he mysteriously popped into existence. The answer I always see is "Well GOD is just all powerful and has always just been". Which of course seems like a cop-out as well.


Riddle me that...
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Just because one man thinks he has it figured out doesnt mean shit. How many times have we been wrong about things in the past?
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Theres this crazy thing caterpillars do, almost as if by instinct or, in your words, magic! They spin a coccoon and, after some time, come out of the coccoon as a completely different creature. Either theres no such thing as butterflies or you are a closed-minded idiot. You choose.
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Does anyone really believe an organic peptide bond(protein) is going to remain intact for 80 million years?


[link to www.sciencemag.org]

Protein’ in 80-Million-Year-Old Fossil Bolsters Controversial T. rex Claim

A controversial finding that protein fragments can be recovered from dinosaur fossils has been replicated for the first time. Two years ago, a team of paleontologists stunned the community when they reported discovering intact protein fragments in a fossil from a Tyrannosaurus rex that died 68 million years ago. The claim has remained contentious, because proteins in tissue normally degrade quickly after an animal dies. On page 626 of this week's issue of Science, however, the team reports finding an even larger number of protein fragments from an 80-million-year-old fossil from a duck-billed dinosaur, or hadrosaur, known as Brachylophosaurus canadensis.



Link to the updated journal article.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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This is honestly an interesting thread but I have only 1 question. If things can't randomly come into existence than what created GOD? Surely he is more complicated than humans yet he mysteriously popped into existence. The answer I always see is "Well GOD is just all powerful and has always just been". Which of course seems like a cop-out as well.


Riddle me that...
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Only the physical universe(the Beginning) is restricted to cause-effect relationships.

The Creator is beyond cause-effect. There is no reason to think God would be bound to any restrictions we find in His creation.

At least on some abstract level we recognize the logic of this. Try and find the beginning of a circle. There is none, but it exists.

People used to believe the universe was eternal, but then we found overwhelming evidence that it began from a single source.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth
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Theres this crazy thing caterpillars do, almost as if by instinct or, in your words, magic! They spin a coccoon and, after some time, come out of the coccoon as a completely different creature. Either theres no such thing as butterflies or you are a closed-minded idiot. You choose.
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Yep and caterpillars have always done this. Another amazing design that defies evolution.
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Just because one man thinks he has it figured out doesnt mean shit. How many times have we been wrong about things in the past?
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Scientists believed maggots and other creatures spontaneously generated out of thin air for hundreds of years.

Of course they are still dragging that belief along, pretending Abiogenesis makes any sense at all.

Evolution a.k.a. 'Gaia Religion' really does not have a good track record.

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