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Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale

 
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lolz the shark likes the sensation on his teeth

and he obviously isnt hungry when the fish does it the

first time and

if the pain of the sharks gums is getting reduced

it could have been noticable before he decided to give

up and eat teh fish

AFTER ALL THIS

the shark became stronger out breeding the other sharks

they notice he was carrying cleaner fish so they started

to imitate to become stronger themselves or face dying out
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OP I think you have your terms a little mixed up. Evolution is a theory and religion is the fairytale.
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Evolution can be proven wrong, religion can't.
 Quoting: Conservative Conspirator


Creation could easily have been falsified with a working theory of the origin of the living cell. But wouldn't you know, not the slightest hint of a naturalistic explanation.


Evolution predictions have failed miserably, most notably in the fossil record. No transitionals, anywhere.. nothing..

This would have been a deathblow to any real scientific theory. Evolution isn't a theory, though, it is a religion that will not be discarded no matter what the data says.
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lolz the shark likes the sensation on his teeth

and he obviously isnt hungry when the fish does it the

first time and

if the pain of the sharks gums is getting reduced

it could have been noticable before he decided to give

up and eat teh fish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993527


LOL, so this species-wide symbiotic relationship caught on before the shark got hungry again? Turbo-Evolution?
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BENEFICIAL MUTATIONS DO NOT EXIST


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Re: Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale
creation? well, there was a big bang. and before that?
well, we don't know that because the physicists haven't
discovered it yet. (the operative word being "yet")

and, it's just turtles, all the way down.
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The Cleaner Fish

Let's first start with the cleaner fish.

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just because The Great Cosmic Manifestation is truly
wonderous does not mean that you have to invent a "God" to account for it all.
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Big Bang? No such thing.

I like the theory that our universe is a dumping ground of a black hole from another universe. Makes more sense than everything came from nothing.
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Big Bang? No such thing.

I like the theory that our universe is a dumping ground of a black hole from another universe. Makes more sense than everything came from nothing.
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well, physicist are starting to acknowledge that there
a most probably multiple universes, and stuff like 12 dimensions. it all just boggles the mind :)

and, it is ALL mere phenomenae.
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diversity exists within every species, microevolution?
one species does not evolve into another, that's manipulation... god, angels, aliens, maybe all of these...

God is real, something really did start it all somewhere down the rabbit hole, the everything we know and all never will learn...


How your pokemon got bigger!
"My Charamander got to level 16 and evolved into Charmeleon!"
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Re: Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale
The Cleaner Fish

Let's first start with the cleaner fish.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


just because The Great Cosmic Manifestation is truly
wonderous does not mean that you have to invent a "God" to account for it all.
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IQ dosen't matter if you want to live outside of the box.
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Creation could easily have been falsified with a working theory of the origin of the living cell.
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What? No. That's stupid.

Imagine a perfectly plausible explanation of the origin of cellular life.

"Nay," quote the Creationist. "You can't prove it actually happened. So God must have poofed it into existence."

Imagine a not just plausible, but solid to within the best proof possible within any available measure of test.

"Nay," says the Cdesign proponentist. "Even if it did happen that way, it only happened because God set up the original conditions. Besides...there's a test I just dreamed up you didn't make yet. So it still isn't proven beyond any shadow of doubt."

Creationism can't be falsified because it has no limitation. Can you truly imagine being forced to admit either "I know that God would never do it that way, because I understand completely the mind of God," or, "God couldn't do it that way, because he isn't powerful enough?"
But wouldn't you know, not the slightest hint of a naturalistic explanation.
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That's a lie.

Evolution predictions have failed miserably, most notably in the fossil record. No transitionals, anywhere.. nothing..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Another lie. I guess you weren't created with any sort of moral guidance, then?

This would have been a deathblow to any real scientific theory. Evolution isn't a theory, though, it is a religion that will not be discarded no matter what the data says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Common descent is a law. And that's what you are really up against; not the theories of HOW the clear patterns of change over time that are visible in the fossil record, in physical homologies, geographical distribution, genetic relationships, and protein clocks came to be, but the fact that they are clearly observable.

The observation of common descent is the conservative one. It doesn't require an explanation, any more than observing the Brinell point of a steel alloy requires understanding of the metallurgy of steel, or the atomic structure of iron, carbon, and chromium.
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Re: Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale
lolz the shark likes the sensation on his teeth

and he obviously isnt hungry when the fish does it the

first time and

if the pain of the sharks gums is getting reduced

it could have been noticable before he decided to give

up and eat teh fish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993527


LOL, so this species-wide symbiotic relationship caught on before the shark got hungry again? Turbo-Evolution?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Natural selection does not require conscious choice, and it is not in any way responsive to learned behavior. Not even Lysenko went that far.

It is statistical. More of the sharks that for whatever reason of their own didn't chomp went on to breed.

Except that, many cases of cleaner fish are actually social learned behavior; there is no genetic component. Doesn't invalidate the first point; it is still statistically, not built on "hopeful monsters" or other defined single pioneers, and the result does not require consciousness of any causal connection.
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Re: Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale
Creation could easily have been falsified with a working theory of the origin of the living cell.
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What? No. That's stupid.

Imagine a perfectly plausible explanation of the origin of cellular life.

"Nay," quote the Creationist. "You can't prove it actually happened. So God must have poofed it into existence."

Imagine a not just plausible, but solid to within the best proof possible within any available measure of test.

"Nay," says the Cdesign proponentist. "Even if it did happen that way, it only happened because God set up the original conditions. Besides...there's a test I just dreamed up you didn't make yet. So it still isn't proven beyond any shadow of doubt."

Creationism can't be falsified because it has no limitation. Can you truly imagine being forced to admit either "I know that God would never do it that way, because I understand completely the mind of God," or, "God couldn't do it that way, because he isn't powerful enough?"
But wouldn't you know, not the slightest hint of a naturalistic explanation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


That's a lie.

Evolution predictions have failed miserably, most notably in the fossil record. No transitionals, anywhere.. nothing..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Another lie. I guess you weren't created with any sort of moral guidance, then?

This would have been a deathblow to any real scientific theory. Evolution isn't a theory, though, it is a religion that will not be discarded no matter what the data says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Common descent is a law. And that's what you are really up against; not the theories of HOW the clear patterns of change over time that are visible in the fossil record, in physical homologies, geographical distribution, genetic relationships, and protein clocks came to be, but the fact that they are clearly observable.

The observation of common descent is the conservative one. It doesn't require an explanation, any more than observing the Brinell point of a steel alloy requires understanding of the metallurgy of steel, or the atomic structure of iron, carbon, and chromium.
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yes. i have an altar, and i light a candle for my worm ancestors every night.
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Creation could easily have been falsified with a working theory of the origin of the living cell.
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What? No. That's stupid.

Imagine a perfectly plausible explanation of the origin of cellular life.

"Nay," quote the Creationist. "You can't prove it actually happened. So God must have poofed it into existence."

Imagine a not just plausible, but solid to within the best proof possible within any available measure of test.

"Nay," says the Cdesign proponentist. "Even if it did happen that way, it only happened because God set up the original conditions. Besides...there's a test I just dreamed up you didn't make yet. So it still isn't proven beyond any shadow of doubt."

Creationism can't be falsified because it has no limitation. Can you truly imagine being forced to admit either "I know that God would never do it that way, because I understand completely the mind of God," or, "God couldn't do it that way, because he isn't powerful enough?"
But wouldn't you know, not the slightest hint of a naturalistic explanation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


That's a lie.

Evolution predictions have failed miserably, most notably in the fossil record. No transitionals, anywhere.. nothing..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Another lie. I guess you weren't created with any sort of moral guidance, then?

This would have been a deathblow to any real scientific theory. Evolution isn't a theory, though, it is a religion that will not be discarded no matter what the data says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Common descent is a law. And that's what you are really up against; not the theories of HOW the clear patterns of change over time that are visible in the fossil record, in physical homologies, geographical distribution, genetic relationships, and protein clocks came to be, but the fact that they are clearly observable.

The observation of common descent is the conservative one. It doesn't require an explanation, any more than observing the Brinell point of a steel alloy requires understanding of the metallurgy of steel, or the atomic structure of iron, carbon, and chromium.
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yes. i have an altar, and i light a candle for my worm ancestors every night.
 Quoting: there ain't no God

i've even got a painting of my cousin the Great California Banana Slug on my wall.
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Re: Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale
lolz the shark likes the sensation on his teeth

and he obviously isnt hungry when the fish does it the

first time and

if the pain of the sharks gums is getting reduced

it could have been noticable before he decided to give

up and eat teh fish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993527


LOL, so this species-wide symbiotic relationship caught on before the shark got hungry again? Turbo-Evolution?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Natural selection does not require conscious choice, and it is not in any way responsive to learned behavior. Not even Lysenko went that far.

It is statistical. More of the sharks that for whatever reason of their own didn't chomp went on to breed.

Except that, many cases of cleaner fish are actually social learned behavior; there is no genetic component. Doesn't invalidate the first point; it is still statistically, not built on "hopeful monsters" or other defined single pioneers, and the result does not require consciousness of any causal connection.
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Thank you for that example of total speculation.
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"Junk" DNA: A Product of "Junk" Science


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So-called "Junk" DNA is sometimes used by biased educators as a "proof" for "evolution", but we've just recently recognized that the "junk" actually functions as an operating system - it interprets the genome! Hear Dr. Purdom reveal what the evolutionists DON'T tell you about the repetitive sequences! Those tricksters are hiding something again!
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Junk DNA

[link to creation.com]

Chimp-Human DNA

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But a fictitious man that came from nowhere creating things in one day (even before creating Earth, thus no idea how they managed to count "day") from dirt and spare parts is an OKay, non-fairytale story?
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Creation could easily have been falsified with a working theory of the origin of the living cell.
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What? No. That's stupid.

Imagine a perfectly plausible explanation of the origin of cellular life.

"Nay," quote the Creationist. "You can't prove it actually happened. So God must have poofed it into existence."

Imagine a not just plausible, but solid to within the best proof possible within any available measure of test.

"Nay," says the Cdesign proponentist. "Even if it did happen that way, it only happened because God set up the original conditions. Besides...there's a test I just dreamed up you didn't make yet. So it still isn't proven beyond any shadow of doubt."
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Hahaha.. you walked into this one.

Imagine yet another layer of complexity to life that functions with even more computer-like coordination than what we see now.

"Nay" says the Naturalist. There must be a natural explanation if we keep looking. And on and on.


Creationism can't be falsified because it has no limitation. Can you truly imagine being forced to admit either "I know that God would never do it that way, because I understand completely the mind of God," or, "God couldn't do it that way, because he isn't powerful enough?"
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Perhaps, (like ultimate naturalism as I just demonstrated), ultimate creation can not be falsified, but the Christian Creation CAN be falsified.

If we actually found what Evolution predicts: transitional fossils showing visible physiological stages between organisms, it would DESTROY the Christian Creation of Kinds.

Hundred Billions of fossils later: NOTHING except a laundry list of evolutionist errors and frauds.

But wouldn't you know, not the slightest hint of a naturalistic explanation.
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That's a lie.
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Nope, sorry. The living cell defies non-intelligent assembly. I guess you'll have to keep the faith in aliens.

Evolution predictions have failed miserably, most notably in the fossil record. No transitionals, anywhere.. nothing..
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Another lie. I guess you weren't created with any sort of moral guidance, then?
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183


I didn't lie. It's the blatant truth, which is evident by slander being your only refutation.

Common descent is a law. And that's what you are really up against; not the theories of HOW the clear patterns of change over time that are visible in the fossil record, in physical homologies, geographical distribution, genetic relationships, and protein clocks came to be, but the fact that they are clearly observable.
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Hahaha, wow, forget Fact vs. Theory... Darwinian Evolution is a LAW now! Your fanaticism is apparent.

Common Descent is only a premise which has made many failed predictions, and is adhered to much more by faith than science. You would not give it up for all the contradictory data in the world.


The observation of common descent is the conservative one. It doesn't require an explanation, any more than observing the Brinell point of a steel alloy requires understanding of the metallurgy of steel, or the atomic structure of iron, carbon, and chromium.
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Only the Brinell point and atomic structure are based off measurable data, not historical claims.

nomuse, I really love how you throw in these unrelated factoids in an attempt to bolster your arguments. Seems to be a common tactic of yours.
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But a fictitious man that came from nowhere creating things in one day (even before creating Earth, thus no idea how they managed to count "day") from dirt and spare parts is an OKay, non-fairytale story?
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All originating with a supreme intelligence is far more rational than origin from nothing.

"ignorant goat herders" knew it 5,000 years ago, and modern geneticists have confirmed it today.
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But a fictitious man that came from nowhere creating things in one day (even before creating Earth, thus no idea how they managed to count "day") from dirt and spare parts is an OKay, non-fairytale story?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24566455


All originating with a supreme intelligence is far more rational than origin from nothing.

"ignorant goat herders" knew it 5,000 years ago, and modern geneticists have confirmed it today.
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Quite an evolution from ignorant goat herders to modern geneticists. Only in 5000 years..... Or was it predesigned?
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Protein Synthesis

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This is obviously an intelligent design.


Naturalism is a dying religion.
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Wrong your religion is dying this is why you came here to try to teach us what we do wrong i bet you are in a church and still teaching the stupid bible crap.

Nature is winning as you don't have proof why we find always new type of animals.

Ye god or aliens did them i know. please go back to your religion and let us do the same thing.
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The velociraptors' arms and claws are made for grabbing its prey after it runs it down. The motion it used to grab is almost identicle to the flapping of wings, My guess is after millions of years of evolution, the grab motion changes to a foward jump to eventually a short flight.
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But a fictitious man that came from nowhere creating things in one day (even before creating Earth, thus no idea how they managed to count "day") from dirt and spare parts is an OKay, non-fairytale story?
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Jesus? Recorded by all the historians of the day. Fact.

Caveman?
fiction.
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Jesus? Recorded by all the historians of the day. Fact.
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You are either a liar or you believe a liar.

Why do creatards lie all the time?

Caveman?
fiction.
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There are people living in caves today.
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Re: Why Evolution is a ridiculous Fairytale
oh yes, evolution is against common sense.
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Correct.

Faith in Darwinian Evolution dwarfs the amount of faith needed to believe in an Intelligent Creator. Everything points to intelligent design.
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Yes it does, but it does'nt necessarily mean that a christian God was involved.

This subject gets hijacked by christians and aethiests as though there are only two possibilities.

I myself believe that there is some sort of evolution, but it is controlled by an intelligence that we don't yet understand.
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So we have on one side an elaborated and well founded explanation on evolution. Now lets try to summarize creationism.

Introduction:

*Swish*

The end.

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