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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolution of Flight There is nothing quite like the sight of an evolutionist squirming and tugging at his collar after being asked to explain how flight "evolved"! Like all tenets of mud-to-man evolution, you'll get plenty of "may have's", "could have's", and "uh's" but no facts or credible evidence. The reason is simple - there is no evidence of how this amazing mutational process occurred! Presently the general consensus among evolutionists is that birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs. This hypothesis has proven so weak, though, that it has recently come under serious scrutiny from within the secular evolutionist scientific community2. With the dinosaur-to-bird hypothesis on the verge of extinction, what will our evolutionist story-tellers dream up next? The whole idea that an arm could evolve into a wing is patently absurd, since the arm would become completely useless and a hindrance long before it could possibly become a functional wing. Even the leading evolutionist Stephen J. Gould recognizes evolution by gradual changes (neo-Darwinism) as a pipe-dream: "Of what possible use are the imperfect incipient stages of useful structures? What good is half a jaw or half a wing?" The fossil record certainly doesn't help the evolutionist's position. Considering the quantity of avian (bird) and especially bat fossils that have been unearthed, if evolution were true there should be hundreds of thousands of examples of transitional forms demonstrating a gradual limb-to-wing development over time. But there are none! Instead, birds and bats appear fully formed in the fossil record, as would be expected if creation were true. Indeed, the oldest fossil bat (called Icaronycteris by long-winded evolutionists) is supposedly 50 million years old, yet is indistinguishable from a modern bat! (see Glenn Jepson, Science 154:1333-1339, 1966). Additionally, both non-flying and flying insects are found in the fossil record, without a trace of intermediate insects in the process of obtaining the ability to fly. Where are the ancestors to the flying insects, and where are the intermediate steps? The answer is simple - they don't exist because evolution is a fairy tale! [link to www.evolutionfairytale.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you use 1 example as "proof" of creation, when you ignore 10,000 other examples that support evolution? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22771242 It's more about logical argument and scientific evidence demonstrating that Darwinian Macro-Evolution could not have happened. The obvious alternative explanation is intelligent design, but it is currently banned from consideration within the Church of Naturalism. Scientists supporting Intelligent Design, testifying to Naturalist dogma blocking research. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States09/28/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolution of Flight Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519 There is nothing quite like the sight of an evolutionist squirming and tugging at his collar after being asked to explain how flight "evolved"! Like all tenets of mud-to-man evolution, you'll get plenty of "may have's", "could have's", and "uh's" but no facts or credible evidence. The reason is simple - there is no evidence of how this amazing mutational process occurred! Presently the general consensus among evolutionists is that birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs. This hypothesis has proven so weak, though, that it has recently come under serious scrutiny from within the secular evolutionist scientific community2. With the dinosaur-to-bird hypothesis on the verge of extinction, what will our evolutionist story-tellers dream up next? The whole idea that an arm could evolve into a wing is patently absurd, since the arm would become completely useless and a hindrance long before it could possibly become a functional wing. Even the leading evolutionist Stephen J. Gould recognizes evolution by gradual changes (neo-Darwinism) as a pipe-dream: "Of what possible use are the imperfect incipient stages of useful structures? What good is half a jaw or half a wing?" The fossil record certainly doesn't help the evolutionist's position. Considering the quantity of avian (bird) and especially bat fossils that have been unearthed, if evolution were true there should be hundreds of thousands of examples of transitional forms demonstrating a gradual limb-to-wing development over time. But there are none! Instead, birds and bats appear fully formed in the fossil record, as would be expected if creation were true. Indeed, the oldest fossil bat (called Icaronycteris by long-winded evolutionists) is supposedly 50 million years old, yet is indistinguishable from a modern bat! (see Glenn Jepson, Science 154:1333-1339, 1966). Additionally, both non-flying and flying insects are found in the fossil record, without a trace of intermediate insects in the process of obtaining the ability to fly. Where are the ancestors to the flying insects, and where are the intermediate steps? The answer is simple - they don't exist because evolution is a fairy tale! [link to www.evolutionfairytale.com] Isn't it obvious how flight evolved it started as jumping, which led to controlled and extended jumping and ended with flight. Look at a flying squirrel compare the design to a bat. You can also observe a behavior in birds where they actually use their wings for increased foreword thrust increasing their running speed, just observe and you will see clues. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Multi-dimensional Genome--impossible for Darwinism to account for-- by Dr Robert Carter Lecture starts at 10 minutes in. [link to www.youtube.com] The human genome is an incredibly complex computer program that operates in at least four dimensions. This includes the 1-D linear string of DNA, the 2-D interactions between different parts of the 1-D string, the 3-D conformation of the DNA in the nucleus, and the changes to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dimensions over time (making the genome 4-D). The complexity of the genome was not predicted by evolutionary theorists and their resistance to an increased understanding of this complexity has hindered scientific advancement. Not only that, but the level of complexity, even as currently understood, is extremely difficult for evolution to explain, and our knowledge of this complexity is increasing daily. In The Origin of Species, Darwin famously said, "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down." My challenge to the evolutionist is to explain the origin of the genome using a workable scenario that includes the source of informational changes, an account of the amount of mutation necessary, and a description of the selective forces necessary, all within the proper time frame. I claim the genome could not have arisen through naturalistic processes and, therefore, Darwin's theory absolutely breaks down. Presented by Dr Robert Carter Dr. Carter also deals with the claim that humans and chimps are 99% identical, the myth of the 1%(starting near ~33:00). The facts are that: --Chimp genomes are 13% larger. --6.4% of our genes are not shared (689 extra genes in humans) --There are 35 million base pair changes --Chimp Y chromosome only 70% --tens of thousands of rearrangements |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't it obvious how flight evolved it started as jumping, which led to controlled and extended jumping and ended with flight. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Look at a flying squirrel compare the design to a bat. You can also observe a behavior in birds where they actually use their wings for increased foreword thrust increasing their running speed, just observe and you will see clues. You mean, Observe, and you will use your imagination to concoct whatever science-fiction stories will support your Faith in Evolution. How interesting that there is not a shred of fossil evidence depicting your 'say-so' speculations, where we should have thousands of generations of these "wing-growing" creatures. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States09/28/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bible teaches creation through evolution. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: So god created the base creature and the waters brought for all the others after its kind. It doesnt say god brought forth abundantly each and every kind. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States09/28/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't it obvious how flight evolved it started as jumping, which led to controlled and extended jumping and ended with flight. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Look at a flying squirrel compare the design to a bat. You can also observe a behavior in birds where they actually use their wings for increased foreword thrust increasing their running speed, just observe and you will see clues. You mean, Observe, and you will use your imagination to concoct whatever science-fiction stories will support your Faith in Evolution. How interesting that there is not a shred of fossil evidence depicting your 'say-so' speculations, where we should have thousands of generations of these "wing-growing" creatures. The truth is no one knows for sure what happened how it all got started and who if anyone did it. I personally believe school should only teach proven facts. Creationism is not a fact, and evolution is not a fact. When confronted with the question where did everything come from an educated teacher should say no one knows, all we have is unproven theories. But if we opened that can of worms we couldn't teach history because it is just a one sided opinion written by the victor, and we couldn't teach art or music since they are subjective. So that would leave language, math and pure science. For all we know though the first person to invent time travel has a mishap and accidentally causes the big bang. No one knows. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bible teaches creation through evolution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: So god created the base creature and the waters brought for all the others after its kind. It doesnt say god brought forth abundantly each and every kind. There is indeed a great deal of genetic variations following created kinds. It could be a very revealing field of research if it wasn't banned. (Baraminology) |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8383606 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-- his eternal power and divine nature-- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. Romans 1:20 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8383606 09/28/2012 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8383606 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-- his eternal power and divine nature-- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. Romans 1:20 If you're going to quote...quote literature. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8361710 United States09/28/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Cleaner Fish Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519 Let's first start with the cleaner fish. This fish will swim into a shark's mouth and eat remnant food particles from the shark's teeth. The cleaner fish departs with a satisfied appetite, and the shark is happy because his teeth are cleaned in the process. The shark does not allow any other kinds of fish into its mouth without chomping down for a good lunch. Indeed, what other fish would dare attempt to swim into a shark's mouth! This type of relationship is called a symbiotic relationship. Creationists point out that these relationships clearly represent a design that could not have occurred by chance. Evolutionists have a very difficult time explaining how these types of relationships could evolve with time. Nevertheless, an evolutionist will somehow have us believe that the cleaner fish eventually figured out he could go in the shark's mouth, and the shark eventually figured out that he should let him so as to maintain proper dental hygiene. The following illustrations portray the likely repercussions of this ill-advised bravery. Nobel Prize winner and evolutionist Albert Szent-Gyorgyi acknowledged that time, chance, and random mutations could never produce the numerous symbiotic relationships we see all around us (He went on to postulate an impersonal creative force, an "innate drive in living matter" in an attempt to make peace with his faith in evolution)1. Let's face it, symbiosis clearly points to a Designer. The lengths an evolutionist must go to explain away this one is beyond fairy tale! "If it could be proved that any part of the structure of any one species had been formed for the exclusive good of another species, it would annihilate my theory, for such could not have been produced through natural selection." - Charles Darwin [link to www.evolutionfairytale.com] Good post. I used to believe in evolution untill i listened to cremo's hidden history of man on youtube. Apparently theres a fossil of a human foot that was on a beach 2.8 million years ago. This find throws all theorys out the window |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6630717 Canada09/28/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth is no one knows for sure what happened how it all got started and who if anyone did it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 I personally believe school should only teach proven facts. Creationism is not a fact, and evolution is not a fact. When confronted with the question where did everything come from an educated teacher should say no one knows, all we have is unproven theories. But if we opened that can of worms we couldn't teach history because it is just a one sided opinion written by the victor, and we couldn't teach art or music since they are subjective. So that would leave language, math and pure science. For all we know though the first person to invent time travel has a mishap and accidentally causes the big bang. No one knows. I meant to quote this in my above post. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op why don't you take your ideas to a board with qualified scientists who can explain to you how it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17153919 Better yet, why don't I take qualified scientists' ideas to you? Dr. Gordon Wilson received his Ph.D. from George Mason University in Environmental Science and Public Policy in 2003. This is a lecture where he explains the scientific criticism of and dissent from the claims of Darwinian Evolution. [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23223519 United States09/28/2012 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who claims "This is the way it is." is full of it. I definitely have my beliefs, but I don't confuse that with fact like many seem to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717 This is a cop-out.. "You can't prove either!" That's not the point. You don't have to prove "the way it is", in order to tear apart a ridiculous theory. Orthodox Academia is the only one demanding you accept Darwinian Evolution as irrefutable scientific truth. Creationists would be satisfied to have all unscientific Origins faiths removed from public education, because they are comfortable knowing where the student's own logic, reasoning, and research will lead them without Evolution propaganda being rammed down their throat every day. |
