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I Told You So!!! New High Tech armored vehicles are junk!!! video...

 
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Who cares if the rear axle came off? At least they stopped on time. Better to be alive with no propulsion, than dead ina completely wrecked vehicle.
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But in combat its now a coffin...a box that dont roll.
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As a former tank gunner I can assure you that you are 100% correct!
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What is that vehicles name?
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the "fartknocker 5000"
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Watch the second stop from 60mph...rear end comes right off!!! LOL
These fancy armorde movie props are just psh op's fear tools...

Great BIG FAIL there Goverment motors!! LOL

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Union Workmanship...
Where quality is job Ain't.
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those damn metric bolts from china were defective says defense department,,,

hey Al those are the same bolts we use in F18 fighters wings, C-130 to hold the engines on and all other military equipment like the blades on the blackhawk choppers..LOL
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Not to mention all the computer chips with a big old back door into them...Just how did iran/china land that drone??
Hummmm????
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American made garbage just like GM, Chevy, Ford etc. Stick to fast food America.
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American made garbage just like GM, Chevy, Ford etc. Stick to fast food America.
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FORD...Found On the Road Dead
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Luckily they didn't test it on a bridge like this
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what a piece of trash!! ahahahahah
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The company has been fined numerous times for slow production.


This is a case of congress wanting something and the first person to show up gets a contract without extensive field tests.

Before the military contracts stock shares were below 50 cents, after the contracts shares soared to over 30 bucks a share at one point. Guess who invested heavily in this company before the contracts were awarded...

Total contracts so far are over 1.3 billion with a price tag of over $500,000 per unit.
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Who invested? Romney? Bush? Obama? The Hoff? WHO..?
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


Gates awarded the contracts, the pentagon then had to “donate” another 6 million bucks to the company so they could build the production lines after the big contract was awarded. The company had already been fined for failing to produce as per the contract. At one point it was taking them 5 weeks to complete one single truck and they still got the contract.


Gets real messy when you look at it all, law suits, CEO’s leaving with company info getting awarded other military contracts, more law suits.







Down48Snip:When U.S. forces stormed into Iraq in March 2003, the people at Force Protection had more experience selling boats than military trucks.


The company traces its roots to Sonic Jet Performance, Inc., a California speed boat company founded in 1997. When the boat business hit tough times after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, company officials began looking for a new product, says Madhava Rao Mankal, then Sonic Jet's chief financial officer.


They had just gotten a $25,000 investment from Frank Kavanaugh, a principal with the equity investment firm Ashford Capital, and he'd committed to raise far more. In return, he got a 20% stake in the business.




Down48Snip;The early Force Protection contracts were "sole-source," because the Marines, the contracting agent, determined that no other U.S. company could immediately produce the vehicles they needed. But the inspector general's June report criticized that decision. Force Protection lacked the capacity to deliver on the contract, the report concluded, and the Marines should have sought other sources.

"Contracting with a company that has not demonstrated acceptable performance and responsibility may not be in the best interest of the government," the report said, and "late delivery … may hinder the war fighters' ability to execute mission requirements and increase risk to soldiers' lives."

Nevertheless, the inspector general was impressed with the vehicles, noting that they "performed well and saved lives."

The Marines insist the sole-source contracts were justified.

"I don't believe it was a mistake," Brogan, the Marine general, said at a briefing last month. At the time, the Marines needed a "commercial, off-the-shelf" vehicle that could be produced immediately, and Force Protection was the only U.S. company building one, he said



[link to www.usatoday.com]



Below is an old release, note the second paragraph from the bottom.


[link to www2.prnewswire.com]



So we have a boat company turned military armored car manufacturer that an investment firm from Delaware invested in for 20% stake of the company’s stock shares right before it gets 1.3 billion in military contracts. Same as it ever was.

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We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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First thing I thought is...I hope it has air bags.
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So we just go over 60 mph ..let them chase us then slam on our brakes.


Where's my "Easy" Staples button....
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If you don´t like it i´ll take it. I live in a rough country...
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What is the issue here?

The point of the excersize was to stop the vehicle... and the vehicle stopped.

Geeze... you people miss the point more often than not!

This turned out to be another caes of a DHS employee stealing... he needed a couple of bolts for his jeep.
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What is the issue here?

The point of the excersize was to stop the vehicle... and the vehicle stopped.

Geeze... you people miss the point more often than not!

This turned out to be another caes of a DHS employee stealing... he needed a couple of bolts for his jeep.
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Then what?

The people inside will be given puppies and greeted as liberators?
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The brakes work pretty good.
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American made garbage just like GM, Chevy, Ford etc. Stick to fast food America.
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FORD...Found On the Road Dead
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Watch the second stop from 60mph...rear end comes right off!!! LOL
These fancy armorde movie props are just psh op's fear tools...

Great BIG FAIL there Goverment motors!! LOL

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24584310


Union Workmanship...
Where quality is job Ain't.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


those damn metric bolts from china were defective says defense department,,,

hey Al those are the same bolts we use in F18 fighters wings, C-130 to hold the engines on and all other military equipment like the blades on the blackhawk choppers..LOL
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bsflag

Hucks, Hi-locks and Hi-Lites are made here.

Now an Indian company, which get used a lot unfortunately because they work so cheap, could had sized and determined the number of fasteners or sized the structure. They are epically bad engineers.
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What is the issue here?

The point of the excersize was to stop the vehicle... and the vehicle stopped.

Geeze... you people miss the point more often than not!

This turned out to be another caes of a DHS employee stealing... he needed a couple of bolts for his jeep.
 Quoting: TraderRob


Then what?

The people inside will be given puppies and greeted as liberators?
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You Aussies! Stop thinking so far ahead... Next you will want them to stock dog food in these things.
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lmaolmao

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lmao i thought i was watching the blair witch producers make a failed transformers movie.

i thought the thing was about to morph into a robot.
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The Cougar

The company has been fined numerous times for slow production.


This is a case of congress wanting something and the first person to show up gets a contract without extensive field tests.

Before the military contracts stock shares were below 50 cents, after the contracts shares soared to over 30 bucks a share at one point. Guess who invested heavily in this company before the contracts were awarded...

Total contracts so far are over 1.3 billion with a price tag of over $500,000 per unit.
 Quoting: Chrit


Who invested? Romney? Bush? Obama? The Hoff? WHO..?
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


Gates awarded the contracts, the pentagon then had to “donate” another 6 million bucks to the company so they could build the production lines after the big contract was awarded. The company had already been fined for failing to produce as per the contract. At one point it was taking them 5 weeks to complete one single truck and they still got the contract.


Gets real messy when you look at it all, law suits, CEO’s leaving with company info getting awarded other military contracts, more law suits.







Down48Snip:When U.S. forces stormed into Iraq in March 2003, the people at Force Protection had more experience selling boats than military trucks.


The company traces its roots to Sonic Jet Performance, Inc., a California speed boat company founded in 1997. When the boat business hit tough times after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, company officials began looking for a new product, says Madhava Rao Mankal, then Sonic Jet's chief financial officer.


They had just gotten a $25,000 investment from Frank Kavanaugh, a principal with the equity investment firm Ashford Capital, and he'd committed to raise far more. In return, he got a 20% stake in the business.




Down48Snip;The early Force Protection contracts were "sole-source," because the Marines, the contracting agent, determined that no other U.S. company could immediately produce the vehicles they needed. But the inspector general's June report criticized that decision. Force Protection lacked the capacity to deliver on the contract, the report concluded, and the Marines should have sought other sources.

"Contracting with a company that has not demonstrated acceptable performance and responsibility may not be in the best interest of the government," the report said, and "late delivery … may hinder the war fighters' ability to execute mission requirements and increase risk to soldiers' lives."

Nevertheless, the inspector general was impressed with the vehicles, noting that they "performed well and saved lives."

The Marines insist the sole-source contracts were justified.

"I don't believe it was a mistake," Brogan, the Marine general, said at a briefing last month. At the time, the Marines needed a "commercial, off-the-shelf" vehicle that could be produced immediately, and Force Protection was the only U.S. company building one, he said



[link to www.usatoday.com]



Below is an old release, note the second paragraph from the bottom.


[link to www2.prnewswire.com]



So we have a boat company turned military armored car manufacturer that an investment firm from Delaware invested in for 20% stake of the company’s stock shares right before it gets 1.3 billion in military contracts. Same as it ever was.
 Quoting: Chrit

Genius boat suspension secret technology they be using there!wise yoda
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lmao i thought i was watching the blair witch producers make a failed transformers movie.

i thought the thing was about to morph into a robot.
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Makes a weird sound after, like the driveshaft is still turning...I think they need just a little more front brakes!! and a little less rear wheel hop...anybody know how much this thing weights??
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The Cougar

The company has been fined numerous times for slow production.


This is a case of congress wanting something and the first person to show up gets a contract without extensive field tests.

Before the military contracts stock shares were below 50 cents, after the contracts shares soared to over 30 bucks a share at one point. Guess who invested heavily in this company before the contracts were awarded...

Total contracts so far are over 1.3 billion with a price tag of over $500,000 per unit.
 Quoting: Chrit


Who invested? Romney? Bush? Obama? The Hoff? WHO..?
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


Gates awarded the contracts, the pentagon then had to “donate” another 6 million bucks to the company so they could build the production lines after the big contract was awarded. The company had already been fined for failing to produce as per the contract. At one point it was taking them 5 weeks to complete one single truck and they still got the contract.


Gets real messy when you look at it all, law suits, CEO’s leaving with company info getting awarded other military contracts, more law suits.







:Down48:Snip:When U.S. forces stormed into Iraq in March 2003, the people at Force Protection had more experience selling boats than military trucks.


The company traces its roots to Sonic Jet Performance, Inc., a California speed boat company founded in 1997. When the boat business hit tough times after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, company officials began looking for a new product, says Madhava Rao Mankal, then Sonic Jet's chief financial officer.


They had just gotten a $25,000 investment from Frank Kavanaugh, a principal with the equity investment firm Ashford Capital, and he'd committed to raise far more. In return, he got a 20% stake in the business.




:Down48:Snip;The early Force Protection contracts were "sole-source," because the Marines, the contracting agent, determined that no other U.S. company could immediately produce the vehicles they needed. But the inspector general's June report criticized that decision. Force Protection lacked the capacity to deliver on the contract, the report concluded, and the Marines should have sought other sources.

"Contracting with a company that has not demonstrated acceptable performance and responsibility may not be in the best interest of the government," the report said, and "late delivery … may hinder the war fighters' ability to execute mission requirements and increase risk to soldiers' lives."

Nevertheless, the inspector general was impressed with the vehicles, noting that they "performed well and saved lives."

The Marines insist the sole-source contracts were justified.

"I don't believe it was a mistake," Brogan, the Marine general, said at a briefing last month. At the time, the Marines needed a "commercial, off-the-shelf" vehicle that could be produced immediately, and Force Protection was the only U.S. company building one, he said



[link to www.usatoday.com]



Below is an old release, note the second paragraph from the bottom.


[link to www2.prnewswire.com]



So we have a boat company turned military armored car manufacturer that an investment firm from Delaware invested in for 20% stake of the company’s stock shares right before it gets 1.3 billion in military contracts. Same as it ever was.
 Quoting: Chrit

Genius boat suspension secret technology they be using there!wise yoda
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You did catch my thread the other day...Sgt opens UNDERWATER hatch and sinks new $500,000 terror response boat in 40ft of ocean!!! LOL Totaly INEPT!!!!!
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Heres the link...funny just how stupid is what stupid does...
How to sink a new $500,000 boat...LOL

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Looks like trying to stop a few tons of armor using a powerful breaking system and large tires with good traction was too much for it... Make it weigh less guys, and maybe try a good ABS system so the wheels do not lock up and bounce.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Heres the link...funny just how stupid is what stupid does...
How to sink a new $500,000 boat...LOL

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Great job Obama...

Those bailouts were GENIUS.
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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American made garbage just like GM, Chevy, Ford etc. Stick to fast food America.
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jay
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Don't worry... In the sand it should be good to go.

Ship 'em out boys!!!
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American made garbage just like GM, Chevy, Ford etc. Stick to fast food America.
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Actually I own a Ford (reluctantly, not a fan) and as it turns out it has been the most reliable vehicle I have owned for being over 200,000 miles and 13 years old yet neglected but still running. Also consider the Taurus, which has been one of the most reliable cars out there, just look at how many are ON the road.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

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Heres the link...funny just how stupid is what stupid does...
How to sink a new $500,000 boat...LOL

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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HaHa that's funny, 'cept the part were we paid for it.


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